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Graphene-based Fuel Cell Membrane Could Extract Hydrogen Directly from Air
IEEE Spectrum ^ | December 2, 2014 | Dexter Johnson

Posted on 12/11/2014 3:24:14 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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Sounds too good to be true, but what if it's not?
1 posted on 12/11/2014 3:24:14 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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There’s been a tremendous buzz about the future of graphene.


2 posted on 12/11/2014 3:30:56 PM PST by EEGator
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I hope people understand that if we start emitting h2o in large quantities THAT will be a big greenhouse gas issue!


3 posted on 12/11/2014 3:34:57 PM PST by Dad was my hero
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“Sounds too good to be true, but what if it’s not?”

The biggest problem for this is that there is very very little hydrogen in the atmosphere.

Nitrogen — N2 — 78.084%

Oxygen — O2 — 20.9476%

Argon — Ar — 0.934%

Carbon Dioxide — CO2 — 0.0314%

Neon — Ne — 0.001818%

Methane — CH4 — 0.0002%

Helium — He — 0.000524%

Krypton — Kr — 0.000114%

Hydrogen — H2 — 0.00005%

Xenon — Xe — 0.0000087%


4 posted on 12/11/2014 3:35:08 PM PST by babygene
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Sounds too good to be true, but what if it's not?

It will be bought and kept out of the market by the oil companies (car companies, Saudis, conspiracy group of the day) like the carburetor that allows car to get 100 MPG.

/tin-foil hat off

5 posted on 12/11/2014 3:37:10 PM PST by kosciusko51 (Enough of "Who is John Galt?" Who is Patrick Henry?)
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What about sea water?


6 posted on 12/11/2014 3:37:24 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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Or the car that runs on tap water?


7 posted on 12/11/2014 3:37:48 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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And all the great stuff left in Tesla’s notes that the government took after his death.


8 posted on 12/11/2014 3:39:18 PM PST by kosciusko51 (Enough of "Who is John Galt?" Who is Patrick Henry?)
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That’s not a “conspiracy theory” that’s a fact. Lord knows what was in there. We need another guy like that, or Leonardo da Vinci or even Ben Franklin.


9 posted on 12/11/2014 3:40:46 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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As a percentage, maybe, but in absolute millions of tons, it's quite a bit. Not even counting hydrogen tied up with O2 to make water vapor.

/johnny

10 posted on 12/11/2014 3:41:07 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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To: Dad was my hero
Greenhouse warming isn't an issue at all.

Global Warming is not due to human contribution of Carbon Dioxide - Global Warming: The Cold, Hard Facts? By Timothy Ball

No Smoking Hot Spot (The Australian)

The missing hotspot (JoNova)

Those two articles take Greenhouse Theory at face value and by the criterion set up in the theory itself finds no evidence of warming on the basis of greenhouse effect.

Sky-high hole blown in AGW theory?

"Forbes reports on a peer-reviewed study that uses NASA data to show that the effects of carbon-based warming have been significantly exaggerated. In fact, much of the heat goes out into space rather than stay trapped in the atmosphere, an outcome that started long before AGW alarmists predicted:"

That article explains why no Hot Spot has been found.

The Hidden Flaw in Greenhouse Theory

Falsification Of The Atmospheric CO2 Greenhouse Effects Within The Frame Of Physics

Harvard astrophysicist dismisses AGW theory, challenges peers to 'take back climate science'

It Is Impossible For A 100 ppm Increase In Atmospheric CO2 Concentration To Cause Global Warming

Simple Chemistry and the Real Greenhouse Effect.

Those five articles each show that Greenhouse Theory has no basis in reality due to a direct conflict with the known laws of physics. No wonder the smoking gun "hotspot" can't be found.

11 posted on 12/11/2014 3:41:37 PM PST by TigersEye (ISIS is the tip of the spear. The spear is Islam.)
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Because if it is produced by humans to power environment destroying SUVs it will never ever condense and fall from the sky.

Gotcha.

We better get ManBearPig on this one before the planet is melted.


12 posted on 12/11/2014 3:42:50 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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Lozada-Hidalgo added “the achieved flow of hydrogen is of course tiny so far”

Albert Einstein, was at one time, but a gleam in his father’s eye.

Rab.


13 posted on 12/11/2014 3:43:51 PM PST by Rabin
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Agreed. Tap water is the end goal. Everything else is an expensive distraction. But it's a hard nut to crack.


14 posted on 12/11/2014 3:45:34 PM PST by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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Cow farts are the half-way point that’ll get us there.


15 posted on 12/11/2014 3:46:18 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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It is hard to say what was in there. From what I read, Tesla always straddled the “genius|crackpot” line pretty closely. There could be great stuff in there, but it could also have been the ravings of a madman.


16 posted on 12/11/2014 3:47:40 PM PST by kosciusko51 (Enough of "Who is John Galt?" Who is Patrick Henry?)
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If he was a madman, we need 1,000 more stat.


17 posted on 12/11/2014 3:50:10 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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Of course the water molecule it’s self is burnt hydrogen, but if your talking about dissolved hydrogen, it’s something like 1.5 X to to the minus fifth.


18 posted on 12/11/2014 3:51:06 PM PST by babygene
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And I didn’t say it was. But H2O from a physics standpoint IS a real greenhouse gas while CO2 isn’t.


19 posted on 12/11/2014 3:53:47 PM PST by Dad was my hero
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Insane in the.....


20 posted on 12/11/2014 3:53:47 PM PST by isthisnickcool (NO MORE IRS!)
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