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Sounds too good to be true, but what if it's not?
1 posted on 12/11/2014 3:24:14 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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There’s been a tremendous buzz about the future of graphene.


2 posted on 12/11/2014 3:30:56 PM PST by EEGator
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I hope people understand that if we start emitting h2o in large quantities THAT will be a big greenhouse gas issue!


3 posted on 12/11/2014 3:34:57 PM PST by Dad was my hero
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“Sounds too good to be true, but what if it’s not?”

The biggest problem for this is that there is very very little hydrogen in the atmosphere.

Nitrogen — N2 — 78.084%

Oxygen — O2 — 20.9476%

Argon — Ar — 0.934%

Carbon Dioxide — CO2 — 0.0314%

Neon — Ne — 0.001818%

Methane — CH4 — 0.0002%

Helium — He — 0.000524%

Krypton — Kr — 0.000114%

Hydrogen — H2 — 0.00005%

Xenon — Xe — 0.0000087%


4 posted on 12/11/2014 3:35:08 PM PST by babygene
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Sounds too good to be true, but what if it's not?

It will be bought and kept out of the market by the oil companies (car companies, Saudis, conspiracy group of the day) like the carburetor that allows car to get 100 MPG.

/tin-foil hat off

5 posted on 12/11/2014 3:37:10 PM PST by kosciusko51 (Enough of "Who is John Galt?" Who is Patrick Henry?)
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Lozada-Hidalgo added “the achieved flow of hydrogen is of course tiny so far”

Albert Einstein, was at one time, but a gleam in his father’s eye.

Rab.


13 posted on 12/11/2014 3:43:51 PM PST by Rabin
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Insane in the.....


20 posted on 12/11/2014 3:53:47 PM PST by isthisnickcool (NO MORE IRS!)
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It is to good to be true.

Every single one of these schemes works, for a while. Then the membrane gets poisoned and the cell stops working. You can burn out the poison but it takes more energy than it is worth to do it.

That is the real problem, not the straw-man setup here in the article.

If you can figure out how to build a system around it many solids can work here as a membrane but they only start running at 600C.

The Research and Development Degree of Difficulty, or RD3 is a “V” or 5 which combined with a Technology Readiness Level, or TRL of 2 means no.


24 posted on 12/11/2014 4:16:59 PM PST by Ocoeeman (Reformed Rocked Scientist)
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This is hugh and series. Unfortunately it’s not going anywhere as the EPA will put a stop to it.


27 posted on 12/11/2014 4:34:51 PM PST by centurion316
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“You put a hydrogen-containing gas on one side, apply a small electric current, and collect pure hydrogen on the other side. This hydrogen can then be burned in a fuel cell.”

I'd like him to be a little more specific about what hydrogen containing gas molecules he's referring to. Hydrogen gas (H2), being lighter than air, doesn't spend a lot of time close to to the ground.
39 posted on 12/11/2014 6:42:55 PM PST by clearcarbon
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Global warming issue. The owners will be taxed into the next century.


40 posted on 12/11/2014 7:14:21 PM PST by SgtHooper (Anyone who remembers the 60's, wasn't there!)
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Tomorrow I could invent an energy that converts liberals’ good intentions in to limitless electricity. Liberals would still complain about it. And they would find an endangered 3 speckled toad to shut it all down.


42 posted on 12/11/2014 7:47:15 PM PST by Organic Panic
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