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The White Conversation on Race
Color Lines - News For Action ^ | December 9, 2014 | Carla Murphy

Posted on 12/09/2014 3:07:53 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

With the national uproar surrounding the unpunished police killings of Michael Brown and Eric Garner, some white Americans say they are rethinking the lack of diversity in their lives—and the work they need to do to help create social change that lasts.

Take Philadelphia artist Katherine Fritz. In her attempt to understand events in Ferguson, she stumbled upon a 2013 national survey finding that white American social circles tend to be 91 percent white. Intrigued, she tested this finding in her own life. A self-described liberal who uses the term “micro-aggressions,” she was surprised to find that her social circle is 91.5 percent white.

“Whites can live, love, study, work, play and die in segregation,” says “Whiteness Studies” scholar Robin DiAngelo, “and still profess that race has no meaning in their lives.”

But something appears to be shifting in that in the weeks since news broke that there’d be no indictment in Officer Darren Wilson’s case. Dara Silverman of Showing Up Racial Justice {SURJ}, a six-year-old national network organizing whites for racial justice, is now managing conference calls with up to 500 new callers from around the country. In coming weeks, they’re planning more than 50 white-led demonstrations that’ll take place in largely white communities. “This is unprecedented,” Silverman says of the upsurge of interest.

Intentional conversations about racism—by whites, for whites and not of the KKK variety—are happening across the country. I spoke with a few community leaders about why it’s important that whites talk race and racism with one another and how those intra-group conversations could be better. Everyone has a different approach; what follows isn’t exhaustive or one-size-fits-all. And, no, un-friending people on Facebook didn’t make the Do list.

‘Deal With the Upset’

For white people who’re trying to understand why their reactions to race conversations are so fraught, DiAngelo’s concept of “white fragility,” is one way to get there. Although coined in a 2011 journal article, the term came into popular use this July in Seattle to describe whites’ inability to bear even civil criticism of a production featuring Japanese characters played by an all-white cast.

DiAngelo says that’s because white Americans live in spaces that protect them from race-based stress, “so we just fall apart around [the slightest] challenge to our racial reality.” She continues, “The average white person who notices some racism [from another white person] won’t say anything and that’s because we don’t want to deal with the upset.”

Amy Hunter is an African-American woman who four years ago founded a whites-only “Witnessing Whiteness” discussion group at her St. Louis YWCA. She says she’s busier than ever now. But she operates from the premise that “white people have conversations all the time that are racist”—and her groups are grounded in the same idea. Led for nine weeks by white facilitators, the groups examine how racism works in each participant’s life and then they work on unlearning it with their families and in their churches, neighborhoods and workplaces.

“The real goal of the groups is that they go back out into the white community and work with people who look like them. That is the intent,” Hunter says. “We have people who’re now holding race conversations in their churches. We’ve seen the impact be pretty positive.”

It’s Your Problem, Not Theirs

SURJ members often engage in direct action around issues affecting communities of color in their home cities. “We’ve been hearing from people of color in Ferguson that it’s exhausting to constantly be educating white people,” Silverman says. So with the recent surge in new members, Silverman says that it’s important to pair “white people who’ve been working on and thinking about race with those who haven’t been. They help prepare them.”

Also, Silverman adds, “I have racism within me. I have thoughts that are racist. Forgive the metaphor but sometimes racism is like vomit. You can’t hold it back—and it’s so much better to do that with another white person than with a person of color and having them clean it up.”

One of Katherine Fritz’s close friends is Mormon and she lives in a “small, very white” community in Illinois. “I think her definition of ‘racist’ was confined to the history books—like, ‘A racist is someone who wears a white hood and is overt in their hatred,’ ” she says via e-mail. “I shared Kiese Laymon’s recent [Vassar College] piece with her and I think it was a really eye-opening experience. She posted it on her Facebook page and it made me feel like, ‘Wow, Okay. She heard [his] voice, she learned something.’ I think, this was partly a result of the discussion we’ve been having,” says Fritz, who had been educating her friend about systemic racism.

“Bad” White People Won’t Just Disappear

For whites, DiAngelo says, “A racist is a bad person. Racism becomes about individual acts by individual people who’re bad.” So “good” whites tend to self-segregate from “bad” whites.

But “dividing yourself between ‘good’ and ‘bad’ whites isn’t progress,” says Hunter. Echoing a recent Huffington Post plea, she strongly discourages un-friending on Facebook because of the Michael Brown/Darren Wilson case. “I have no doubt Darren Wilson’s a good guy,” Hunter says she recently told a group of high-school students. “What I’m trying to change is the system where he’s been trained to unload his clip. What I’m trying to change is a system that says big black people are scary and you need to handle them a certain way. Darren Wilson did exactly what he was trained to do.” Hunter’s focus is on helping whites to change each other’s beliefs and patterns—not in perpetuating more separation in an already segregated country.

Silverman says whites need to step it up: “We want to move towards white people who’re trying to figure things out—even if that means we get a bit of their vomit on us,” Silverman says. “People of color get vomited on with this shit all the time. It’s our responsibility to step it up and show up even in those spaces where it’s hard and uncomfortable. That’s the work.”


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Politics; Society; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: blackkk; darrenwilson; ferguson; kenyanbornmuzzie; racism; whiteprivilege; whites
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
“We’ve been hearing from people of color in Ferguson that it’s exhausting to constantly be educating white people,”

Lord if you think that's exhausting you ought to try and educate black people!

21 posted on 12/09/2014 4:00:01 PM PST by Altura Ct.
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Isn’t it more than just a bit racist for a black woman to found a whites-only discussion group?


22 posted on 12/09/2014 4:01:00 PM PST by Bob (Violence in islam? That's not a bug; it's a feature.)
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To: sportutegrl

That’s deep. I’ll bet black social circles are black too...


23 posted on 12/09/2014 4:04:37 PM PST by vpintheak (Keep calm and Rain Steel!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yo, where’s the Barf Alert, yo yo?


24 posted on 12/09/2014 4:08:39 PM PST by bkopto (Free men are not equal. Equal men are not free.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
some white Americans say they are rethinking the lack of diversity in their lives...

Not me. I'm trying to figure out a way to avoid contact with that other race wherever possible. My opinion of them -- sadly -- just continues to decline. I know it's not fair, but with Sharpton, Jackson, Obama, Holder, ... I can't help it.

By the way, don't put too much faith in this self-serving claptrap. I doubt one white person in a million is really considering any change at all because of these manufactured "crises."

25 posted on 12/09/2014 4:38:13 PM PST by IronJack
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To: IronJack

This is tough to hear. My adopted conservative black kids are going to take the brunt of this divide. I understand. But I am on the racial divide and it is tough to watch how this country has been divided in the past twenty years.


26 posted on 12/09/2014 4:45:19 PM PST by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitariian fascism is on the move.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Race is an artificial construct used to divide people. Forced integration is just as wrong as forced segregation. The welfare system needs to be abolished along with public education, and while your at it abolish the IRS and institute a flat sales tax. Abolish government employee unions as well as the Federal Reserve and get rid of the idea that corporations are people. Oh yeah, and outlaw abortion, it is one of the worse forms of violence perpetrated on mankind as it degrades us and cheapens all life.
27 posted on 12/09/2014 4:47:55 PM PST by semaj (Nothing will change until lying becomes an extremely dangerous & expensive habit.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

White privilege is PC speak for “Its Whitey’s Fault”. Its a continuance of not taking any responsibility for their own actions.

Remind you of any one? Know someone who is a high profile elected official who blames everyone else for any problems that arise? Who always talks like he had nothing to with it?

Hmmm........


28 posted on 12/09/2014 4:53:34 PM PST by joshua c (Please dont feed the liberals)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Has anyone done a study on “Cultural” self-segregation?

I, like just about everyone else, tend to associate with people who have similar likes/dislikes, values, and personalities

I am of hispanic background, but have more white and asian friends, followed by latino friends and then black friends. Color does not enter into it. Its about who I enjoy being with. Who is “Culturally” more like me.

So if the issue is that I'm a racist if I don't hang out with people that have nothing in common with me, then I'm a racist.

29 posted on 12/09/2014 4:56:39 PM PST by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: Chickensoup

I feel your pain. I really worry about all the really fine black people I know and how all this crap is going to affect them. They just don’t deserve to have to suffer because of these idiots.


30 posted on 12/09/2014 4:59:11 PM PST by Himyar (Sessions: the only real man in D.C.)
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To: Himyar

It is good that some see this. I fear for all of us and pray for all of us.


31 posted on 12/09/2014 5:08:18 PM PST by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitariian fascism is on the move.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sure me and my klan golf buddies are going to the club to have a chin wag of the newest inside bigoted words and jokes. We do this all the time. Which is this person’s premise.

A premise as a basis for foregone conclusion.

So, answer this, Ms.Huxtable.. why do upward mobile blacks want to live amongst such “racism” wacisim and bigotry?

Answer— they don’t want to be black, of course (that would be her answer... they are all uncle Toms). What a joke.


32 posted on 12/09/2014 5:25:52 PM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: sportutegrl

And man.. are black social circles.. black.

Anyone here on FR ever walk into a black bar— I mean the white FReepers here? You better have a musical instrument in your hands. They WILL run you out. And so will the mexes, the viets, thais, chinese etc. But not the Italians. Huh?


33 posted on 12/09/2014 5:28:49 PM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: John S Mosby
"Mind if we dance wif yo dates?"

Man, what a steaming pile of deconstructionist faculty lounge bullpuckey this screed is.

“Whites can live, love, study, work, play and die in segregation,” says “Whiteness Studies” scholar Robin DiAngelo, “and still profess that race has no meaning in their lives.”

Only if they are conservative. Because otherwise, all they could ever think about would be racism racism racism racism. With a side of victimology.

34 posted on 12/09/2014 5:47:00 PM PST by Dr.Deth
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To: Chickensoup

Well, to your adopted black kids I say this: show the fools in your race they don’t own you. Show them that you can succeed without any of their whining or black privilege. Be the exception that proves the rule.


35 posted on 12/09/2014 7:00:22 PM PST by IronJack
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To: Secret Agent Man
Michael Brown just validated the stereotype that big black men are scary dangerous people. No white person had anythign to do with promoting that view. Michael Brown affirmed that stereotype.

Well that's true. And personally, that does me no good whatsoever!

Jesus Christ: You can’t impeach Him and He ain’t gonna resign.




36 posted on 12/09/2014 7:03:27 PM PST by rdb3 (Meh! A hole-in-one is just an eagle. Sink an albatross!)
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To: Himyar
They just don’t deserve to have to suffer because of these idiots.

Then they need to speak up. They can't make this a whites-only thing. If enough of them raise their voices, THEY will be the majority in black communities, not the whiners and Democrat house ni__ers.

37 posted on 12/09/2014 7:03:48 PM PST by IronJack
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To: DesertRhino

“lotta good it did her.”

If the perp was her ex-boyfriend, it might have did her in.


38 posted on 12/09/2014 7:12:02 PM PST by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

At least a third. Plan accordingly.

L


39 posted on 12/09/2014 7:13:26 PM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.d)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Lazamataz
When black people riot, cities burn.

When white people riot, continents burn.

h/t to Laz.

40 posted on 12/09/2014 7:17:41 PM PST by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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