Posted on 11/22/2014 10:56:21 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
Though the main attention on Obamas speech on immigration last night will be on his plans for the unauthorized immigrants, he definitely included provisions regarding foreign tech workers, specifically regarding H-1B, employer-sponsored green cards and the F-1 foreign student visa. His proposals have something for the employers, something for the foreign workers, but nothing to help American workers. In this post, Ill explain the proposed changes and their likely impact, and also discuss what executive action a labor-friendly president could have taken.
From my point of view, the Presidents plan has three major elements:
There are obvious adverse impacts here to American workers, by swelling the labor market, thus reducing job opportunities and wages for Americans. This is especially true in that the foreign workers are overwhelmingly young, thus exacerbating the rampant age discrimination that we already have in the tech world.
Some readers may be surprised to hear that I strongly support one of those proposals, but they shouldnt be surprised at all. Ive been stating for years (e.g. in my 2003 article in the University of Michigan Journal of Law Reform) that, for many tech employers the appeal of hiring foreign workers is to have not just cheap workers but even more important, immobile ones. As a result, employers often hire a foreign worker over an equally-qualified U.S. citizen or permanent resident. The third point in Obamas proposal above would actually be beneficial to American workers, as it would make the foreign workers period of de facto indentured servitude much shorter, thus rendering the foreign workers less attractive to hire in the first place.
However, the key word in the last sentence is would. For the reasons Ive given, employers will NOT like that provision, which by the way, the foreign tech worker organization Immigrant Voice is taking credit for. So, the employers may work behind the scenes to quash it. In doing so, they would have to speak carefully, as they dont want to admit that they prefer hiring foreign workers for their indenturability. But the lobbyists are very good at spin, and they will likely say something like Why would any employer pay $10,000 in legal fees for green card sponsorship if the worker can jump ship to another employer? One mitigating factor is that the employers do want the potential foreign workers to find work in the U.S. attractive, and freedom of movement would help in that regard, but again, its vital to keep in mind that indentured servitude is hugely valuable to many employers. I dont think theyll go quietly on this one.
Now, what actions could Obama have taken to help the American worker? In a more positive tone, what could he still do now?
But all indications are that the Obama administration simply doesnt care about American workers, so the above is just blue-skying.
Comrade obama is probably also anxious to streamline those time consuming security clearance background checks. His sino-benefactors might appreciate that.
Deuteronomy 28 The Message (MSG)
1-6 If you listen obediently to the Voice of God, your God, and heartily obey all his commandments that I command you today, God, your God, will place you on high, high above all the nations of the world. All these blessings will come down on you and spread out beyond you because you have responded to the Voice of God, your God:
Gods blessing inside the city,
Gods blessing in the country;
Gods blessing on your children,
the crops of your land,
the young of your livestock,
the calves of your herds,
the lambs of your flocks.
Gods blessing on your basket and bread bowl;
Gods blessing in your coming in,
Gods blessing in your going out.
7 God will defeat your enemies who attack you. Theyll come at you on one road and run away on seven roads.
8 God will order a blessing on your barns and workplaces; hell bless you in the land that God, your God, is giving you.
9 God will form you as a people holy to him, just as he promised you, if you keep the commandments of God, your God, and live the way he has shown you.
10 All the peoples on Earth will see you living under the Name of God and hold you in respectful awe.
11-14 God will lavish you with good things: children from your womb, offspring from your animals, and crops from your land, the land that God promised your ancestors that he would give you. God will throw open the doors of his sky vaults and pour rain on your land on schedule and bless the work you take in hand. You will lend to many nations but you yourself wont have to take out a loan. God will make you the head, not the tail; youll always be the top dog, never the bottom dog, as you obediently listen to and diligently keep the commands of God, your God, that I am commanding you today. Dont swerve an inch to the right or left from the words that I command you today by going off following and worshiping other gods.
15-19 Heres what will happen if you dont obediently listen to the Voice of God, your God, and diligently keep all the commandments and guidelines that Im commanding you today. All these curses will come down hard on you:
Gods curse in the city,
Gods curse in the country;
Gods curse on your basket and bread bowl;
Gods curse on your children,
the crops of your land,
the young of your livestock,
the calves of your herds,
the lambs of your flocks.
Gods curse in your coming in,
Gods curse in your going out.
20 God will send The Curse, The Confusion, The Contrariness down on everything you try to do until youve been destroyed and theres nothing left of youall because of your evil pursuits that led you to abandon me.
21 God will infect you with The Disease, wiping you right off the land that youre going in to possess.
22 God will set consumption and fever and rash and seizures and dehydration and blight and jaundice on you. Theyll hunt you down until they kill you.
23-24 The sky over your head will become an iron roof, the ground under your feet, a slab of concrete. From out of the skies God will rain ash and dust down on you until you suffocate.
25-26 God will defeat you by enemy attack. Youll come at your enemies on one road and run away on seven roads. All the kingdoms of Earth will see you as a horror. Carrion birds and animals will boldly feast on your dead body with no one to chase them away.
27-29 God will hit you hard with the boils of Egypt, hemorrhoids, scabs, and an incurable itch. Hell make you go crazy and blind and senile. Youll grope around in the middle of the day like a blind person feeling his way through a lifetime of darkness; youll never get to where youre going. Not a day will go by that youre not abused and robbed. And no one is going to help you.
30-31 Youll get engaged to a woman and another man will take her for his mistress; youll build a house and never live in it; youll plant a garden and never eat so much as a carrot; youll watch your ox get butchered and not get a single steak from it; your donkey will be stolen from in front of you and youll never see it again; your sheep will be sent off to your enemies and no one will lift a hand to help you.
32-34 Your sons and daughters will be shipped off to foreigners; youll wear your eyes out looking vainly for them, helpless to do a thing. Your crops and everything you work for will be eaten and used by foreigners; youll spend the rest of your lives abused and knocked around. What you see will drive you crazy.
35 God will hit you with painful boils on your knees and legs and no healing or relief from head to foot.
36-37 God will lead you and the king you set over you to a country neither you nor your ancestors have heard of; there youll worship other gods, no-gods of wood and stone. Among all the peoples where God will take you, youll be treated as a lesson or a proverba horror!
38-42 Youll plant sacks and sacks of seed in the field but get almost nothingthe grasshoppers will devour it. Youll plant and hoe and prune vineyards but wont drink or put up any winethe worms will devour them. Youll have groves of olive trees everywhere, but youll have no oil to rub on your face or handsthe olives will have fallen off. Youll have sons and daughters but they wont be yours for longtheyll go off to captivity. Locusts will take over all your trees and crops.
43-44 The foreigner who lives among you will climb the ladder, higher and higher, while you go deeper and deeper into the hole. Hell lend to you; you wont lend to him. Hell be the head; youll be the tail.
45-46 All these curses are going to come on you. Theyre going to hunt you down and get you until theres nothing left of you because you didnt obediently listen to the Voice of God, your God, and diligently keep his commandments and guidelines that I commanded you. The curses will serve as signposts, warnings to your children ever after.
47-48 Because you didnt serve God, your God, out of the joy and goodness of your heart in the great abundance, youll have to serve your enemies whom God will send against you. Life will be famine and drought, rags and wretchedness; then hell put an iron yoke on your neck until hes destroyed you.
48-52 Yes, God will raise up a faraway nation against you, swooping down on you like an eagle, a nation whose language you cant understand, a mean-faced people, cruel to grandmothers and babies alike. Theyll ravage the young of your animals and the crops from your fields until youre destroyed. Theyll leave nothing behind: no grain, no wine, no oil, no calves, no lambsand finally, no you. Theyll lay siege to you while youre huddled behind your town gates. Theyll knock those high, proud walls flat, those walls behind which you felt so safe. Theyll lay siege to your fortified cities all over the country, this country that God, your God, has given you.
53-55 And youll end up cannibalizing your own sons and daughters that God, your God, has given you. When the suffering from the siege gets extreme, youre going to eat your own babies. The most gentle and caring man among you will turn hard, his eye evil, against his own brother, his cherished wife, and even the rest of his children who are still alive, refusing to share with them a scrap of meat from the cannibal child-stew he is eating. Hes lost everything, even his humanity, in the suffering of the siege that your enemy mounts against your fortified towns.
56-57 And the most gentle and caring woman among you, a woman who wouldnt step on a wildflower, will turn hard, her eye evil, against her cherished husband, against her son, against her daughter, against even the afterbirth of her newborn infants; she plans to eat them in secretshe does eat them!because she has lost everything, even her humanity, in the suffering of the siege that your enemy mounts against your fortified towns.
58-61 If you dont diligently keep all the words of this Revelation written in this book, living in holy awe before This Name glorious and terrible, God, your God, then God will pound you with catastrophes, you and your children, huge interminable catastrophes, hideous interminable illnesses. Hell bring back and stick you with every old Egyptian malady that once terrorized you. And yes, every disease and catastrophe imaginablethings not even written in the Book of this RevelationGod will bring on you until youre destroyed.
62 Because you didnt listen obediently to the Voice of God, your God, youll be left with a few pitiful stragglers in place of the dazzling stars-in-the-heavens multitude you had become.
63-66 And this is how things will end up: Just as God once enjoyed you, took pleasure in making life good for you, giving you many children, so God will enjoy getting rid of you, clearing you off the Earth. Hell weed you out of the very soil that you are entering in to possess. Hell scatter you to the four winds, from one end of the Earth to the other. Youll worship all kinds of other gods, gods neither you nor your parents ever heard of, wood and stone no-gods. But you wont find a home there, youll not be able to settle down. God will give you a restless heart, longing eyes, a homesick soul. You will live in constant jeopardy, terrified of every shadow, never knowing what youll meet around the next corner.
67 In the morning youll say, I wish it were evening. In the evening youll say, I wish it were morning. Afraid, terrorized at whats coming next, afraid of the unknown, because of the sights youve witnessed.
68 God will ship you back to Egypt by a road I promised youd never see again. There youll offer yourselves for sale, both men and women, as slaves to your enemies. And not a buyer to be found.
Why did you spam this thread?
Anything less than a fingerprint match to a U.S. triple homicide conviction and the illegal is good to go.
The reason why I posted the Scripture passage was that these events are living examples of what is happening to America...
The Obama Plan for Executive Action on Foreign Tech Workers is one of the curses that come upon a nation who turns from the Lord.
If you notice in the beginning of the chapter, a blessed nation’s citizens prosper. That was the America of yesterday.
We are on a downward spiral and unless we change our ways, everything in the second part of Deuteronomy will occur.
I didn’t realize how long the chapter was, by the way.
The president’s actions are all smoke and mirrors. His executive orders are the “new clothes” that the emperor is wearing. Who in Congress will call him out on it?
Do you know how many good american kids are out there looking for tech jobs?????????? My two sons will be one day. Fat chance.
If obama were actively trying to hurt americans and america as hard as he possibly could and for as long as could, what would he be doing differently?
1. Iraq and Syria refugees, in, say Turkey: How limited is Obama's power in signing any immigrant or refugee executive order?
2. For instance, does Obama technically have the legal power to sign an executive order tomorrow---just a few days after he signed his present illegal immigration executive order---where he grants temporary amnesty to 2,000,000 to 5,000,000 Iraqi and Syrian refugees, and nobody can do anything about it?
3. Africa refugees: Tomorrow, can Obama legally grant immediate amnesty to 2,000,000 to 5,000,000 Ebola refugees from Africa, and, again, nobody can do anything about it?
4. In summary, does Obama and his clever lawyers have us by the throat when it comes to Obama's claim that he has unlimited legal power to sign executive orders wherever and whenever he pleases, and nobody can stop him, not Congress, not the courts?
5. Pardon for 5,000,000 illegals: Just before Obama leaves office in two years, can Obama legally pardon 5,000,000 illegals with an executive order?
6. Has the use of unlimited executive order power intoxicated Obama so much that he has become completely mad? God help us.
Your correct,
This nation willingly elected not once, but twice (when they knew what he was) an evil spirit to rule over them, this obama demon has been doing as he pleases to America. They wanted Saul and they got Saul.
But when this evil creature turns its demonic attention to Israel and pressures and conjoles and influences them to divide and part the land restored in 1948 and 1967, this is when the end will come.
And while we try to pressure Israel to surrender its land and heritage and authority, how many will recognize that instead its this land that is shaking and drying up and being surrendered to foreign invaders,
And you and I both know that the vast majority of these “Foreign high-tech workers” will be Islamists from the Middle East who overstayed their visas and should have been deported long ago. History repeating itself. 911 and the Boston Marathon bombing weren’t all that long ago. Does anybody else realize that we are in deep trouble?
In the early 1970’s engineers, doctors and lawyers all earned about the same amount. Lawyers and doctors have shot into the stratosphere. But engineers have become highly educated hourly workers. This is because government flooded the market with foreign workers.
Being a 70s kid, everyone I remember said grow up to be one of the three you mentioned.
In the 80s and 90s, I don’t recall engineer being mentioned too much. That is sad.
As a technology person, I will be amazed that if I have a job going into next year. The big talking to is coming about mid-December.
Its just good business sense. Cheap, immobile labor makes for higher profits. This is what these companies are paying for with their “free speech”. The answer for the American tech worker is to to prove they are worth hiring over a foreign worker.
“STEM on STRIKE!” has a nice ring to it. Let them find out what going Galt really looks like.
In my best Arnold S. voice, from Kindergarden Cop
“It’s NOT a Law!”
Isn’t that nice! and as always he $h!its on the people who worked hard to build up this country.
[how many will recognize that we must support Israel and not divide the land...]
It would be an eye opener to see how many “Pro-Israel” legislators actually support a two state solution, even a shared Jerusalem.
Woe to America if this nation is party to that.
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