Posted on 11/02/2014 10:07:46 PM PST by Bettyprob
There is a reason why we are morally aposed to assisted suicide. It is because we start with allowing it and we end up requiring it.
We go from the ability to ‘die with dignity’ to the responsibility to die to avoid the discomfort and expense of others.
As for comparing the idea of people fleeing a fire in a sky scraper by jumping to their deaths to a person taking a lethal dose of medication to avoid future suffering, I didn’t make that comparison, your fellow assisted suicide jackass buddy Desertretard did curawoodenhead! It is the specious and retarded comparison. None of those people in the towers decided to die that day. Ms. Maynard absolutely chose to die.
Your inability to see the distinction makes you an idiot at best and morally bankrupt at worst.
You chose stupid or evil!
Okay, probably that as well. But the point is that she acted out of fear of the unknown and the pain that would probably come with it.
True but like Job I believe in the resurrection.
Romans 6:23
For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Romans 6:23
For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
“Tell me how engaging in aggressive, but ultimately unsuccessful treatment, which will only prolong the suffering, somehow glorifies God.”
Suffering for our Faith in God is an excellent example of Glorifying God. Showing Faith in God by rising to meet our burdens is what God wants of us. I can see forgoing certain hopeless treatment but killing yourself and holding the act up as an act of courage and control is squalid and godless.
OmG...thank you for sharing that....it’s heartbreaking but at least she had you to see her through to the end. I am sorry you two had to suffer through that. I cannot imagine how I would hold up. Probably not as intact as you are.
You know, I tend to be black and white on a lot of issues, but this particular case challenges me.
I don’t support doctors pushing assisted suicide, and I wish this poor woman hadn’t made a show of what she planned to do. Of course I wish she hadn’t killed herself...or felt pushed to do so. I’m not “pro-suicide”, if there is such a thing.
But I just came from a thread in which the referenced article called Maynard a coward & said that, if she were truly brave, she would have borne whatever suffering came her way.
I just shake my head...that’s so flippant, so callous, and so easy to say. That young woman received a devastating diagnosis...and instead of shrieking with glee about her burning in hell, we can and should pray that she had the time to receive Jesus before her soul left her body. It’s possible, you know.
As was mentioned upthread, we’re not so quick to jump all over the poor souls who jumped from the Twin Towers, nor should we be.
Wardaddy, I’m sorry for what you & your family members went through.
I will never figure out why some members of my own sex are so perpetually offended over things that don’t amount to a hill of beans.
Thanks for your sympathy. I didn’t really hold up very well, and was an emotional wreck for more than a year after her passing. I still love her and miss her and talk to her and visit her memorial tribute website at least once a day.
Not a day goes by when I don’t talk to her out loud. I’ve started seeing a new lady whose company I enjoy — who is a widow. Her husband died of cancer, so we are able to bond around that shared grief experience.
But I don’t think I’ll ever get over the loss of my soul mate, although I finally accept that she’s never coming back, and that — as my mother has always said — life is for the living.
My wife and I discussed this at dinner.
Her view was like yours
She wished the girl hadn’t made an agenda but she understood her suicide given what she faced in the near term
I may not agree with your every utterance but you are pretty sophisticated by our averages here...for sure
I’m sorry for your loss and all of what that was to you and your lady....that was as poignant a post as I’ve ever seen here
I think many of the terse here don’t know a lot about dying.... especially a hard death....the megaglioma Maynard had could produce hallucination terrors and delirium unimaginable that don’t stop till death....folks should contemplate that
And no one can predict where the tentacles grow....
I’m going way back in recall on 1000s of Freepers I know by name but don’t you know your way around an epee and buckler?
Pardon if I’m mistaken.
I salute your courage and ability to stand by your woman when she needed you most....I can’t imagine how anguishing
God bless
So true, life is for the living. Still, love never dies, it is a force unto itself.
Cheers and all the very best to you sir...
Thank you for your sympathy and condolences, but what's an epee and buckler?
Early this morning, husband and I were watching the news before he went to work. I asked him what he thought about it. He said it’s a difficult issue, but it’s very hard to stand in condemnation when we have no idea of the suffering she faced.
He also mentioned the WTC jumpers. We had—and have—compassion for those poor people. Even today I can barely stand to think about them. But I’ve never heard anyone say what they did was wrong, spiritually. Well, no, I take that back...I read here on FR that someone said they were in hell for jumping. I don’t believe that.
That was so hard to read. I can’t imagine what it was like to go through it.
I am so, so sorry. What a lovely, amazingly accomplished lady.
Fencing implements...my mistake
Someone with a similar moniker
I don’t have a problem with Maynard putting an end to it- there was no chance of survival and it’s only a matter of continued pain. A friend of mine died from glioblastoma a couple of years ago.
But I don’t at all like Maynard using her disease to promote government sanctioned suicide- that’s a policy open to the worst sort of abuse. It can and will be used as a cover for denying treatment to the sick. There’s a variety of reasons that people have for getting rid of others and there’s nothing like legalizing suicide to make it easier to explore all of them.
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