Posted on 10/22/2014 5:22:20 AM PDT by marktwain
Matt Dorschel, on the left |
Dorschel said any firearm sighting is grounds to call 911 even if a person is not purposely showing their weapon. He said firearm holders have a responsibility to conceal their weapons and they are violating the university's policy if they don't.
Despite this strict interpretation of the concealed carry law, it is unclear what the repercussions might be if a carrier can prove they have a concealed carry permit and were not intentionally showing the firearm. Aside from being asked to conceal or remove the weapon, Nelson said it's unlikely there would be any further punishment in these minor situations.On 11 September, Dorschel said essentially the same thing. From the uiargonaut.com:
Nelson said faculty should contact police even if they see a firearm for a brief moment.
This is very close to "swatting" people who are carrying firearms, if someone notices them for any reason. The article says that this is a "strict" interpretation of the law. It goes far beyond that. Nothing in the law that I read indicates that individuals with the enhanced permit have to conceal their firearms. The enhanced permit merely allows them to carry concealed weapons. It does not *require* them to carry concealed weapons. Idaho law does not prohibit the open carry of firearms, although the law allows open carry of firearms to be regulated on a college campus for people who do not have the enhanced concealed carry permit. The wording of the law which restricts the authority of public colleges and universities is clear:We will not question a decision to call 911, he said.
(2) Notwithstanding any other provision of state law, this authority shall not extend to regulating or prohibiting the otherwise lawful possession, carrying or transporting of firearms or ammunition by persons licensed under section 18-3302H or 18-3302K, Idaho Code.Neither 18-3302H or 18-3302K, referenced above, requires that holders of these permits always carry all of their weapons concealed. That would be absurd. It would mean that they could never carry a rifle or shotgun, even while hunting. It would mean that they would be *more* restricted than people with ordinary permits or without permits at all, because they would not be allowed to carry weapons openly. From the Idaho Constitution:
Idaho Constitution Article I, Section 11The state constitution seems quite clear; open carry of firearms shall not be abridged, but the carry of weapons concealed on the person may be regulated by law.
The people have the right to keep and bear arms, which right shall not be abridged; but this provision shall not prevent the passage of laws to govern the carrying of weapons concealed on the person nor prevent passage of legislation providing minimum sentences for crimes committed while in possession of a firearm, nor prevent the passage of legislation providing penalties for the possession of firearms by a convicted felon, nor prevent the passage of any legislation punishing the use of a firearm. No law shall impose licensure, registration or special taxation on the ownership or possession of firearms or ammunition. Nor shall any law permit the confiscation of firearms, except those actually used in the commission of a felony.
Q 14. Does the new statute prohibit open carry of firearms on University property?However, the Q & A document never cites any applicable law that grants them the authority to ban the open carry of firearms by people with enhanced permits; they repeatedly only state that it is University policy.
A - Yes. The law specifically allows the University to continue to prohibit open carry of firearms on University property. Open carry of firearms on University property is a violation of the Board of Regents and University policy.
The University executives want their own personal kingdom, where they have significant power, and they want it expanded, not limited.
‘The University executives want their own personal kingdom, where they have significant power, and they want it expanded, not limited. ‘
Why not? They have their on PD that needs to be kept busy w/ something. Guess they could keep some dogs around to release for training exercises....but that just isn’t nearly enough for the wannabe statist and his mall cop army.
:: The law specifically allows the University to continue to prohibit open carry of firearms on University property. Open carry of firearms on University property is a violation of the Board of Regents and University policy. ::
This begs the question; does the policy of the University and BoR have the the “force of law” by reference? If yes, then that policy is contravened by the Second Amendment of the USC.
Added the keyword “back-door-abridged”
This is an infringement of the 2nd Amd of the US Constitution so long as the convicted felon is not incarcerated and thus subject to the permissible slave labor provision of the US Constitution.
Be vague on their clothing, that's all. :)
“The University executives want their own personal kingdom, where they have significant power, and they want it expanded, not limited.”
University faculty are exactly the same, as are the paper-pushing bureaucrats.
And it’s identical throughout the US, not just in Idaho.
Oooh, "university policy"! Because any violation of university policy merits a call to 911, and because taxpayer-paid cops are there to enforce "university policy". Moron.
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