To: 2ndDivisionVet
Why is it called Bubonic Plague? Because is causes Buboes.
What is a bubo? A swollen lymph node, principally in the groin or armpit.
What causes the lymph node to swell? It fills with bacteria.
How is Bubonic Plague treated today? Anti-biotics.
What is Ebola?
2 posted on
10/01/2014 6:32:51 PM PDT by
ClearCase_guy
("Now is not the time for fear. That comes later.")
To: 2ndDivisionVet
Black Death is obviously racissssst.
3 posted on
10/01/2014 6:33:02 PM PDT by
Argus
To: 2ndDivisionVet
No, no, Black hole, talk to Don Lemon.
8 posted on
10/01/2014 6:44:54 PM PDT by
Attention Surplus Disorder
(At no time was the Obama administration aware of what the Obama administration was doing)
To: 2ndDivisionVet; neverdem; ProtectOurFreedom; Mother Abigail; EBH; vetvetdoug; Smokin' Joe; ...
The game of Ebola Roulette continues...
*click* spin *click* spin *click* spin…BANG!
Eeeee-bolllll-aaaaaa ping!
Bring Out Your Dead
We’re gonna need
a bigger cart!
Post to me or FReep mail to be on/off the Bring Out Your Dead ping list.
The purpose of the “Bring Out Your Dead” ping list (formerly the “Ebola” ping list) is very early warning of emerging pandemics, as such it has a high false positive rate.
So far the false positive rate is 100%.
At some point we may well have a high mortality pandemic, and likely as not the “Bring Out Your Dead” threads will miss the beginning entirely.
*sigh* Such is life, and death...
9 posted on
10/01/2014 6:45:55 PM PDT by
null and void
(If the wage gap were real, American companies would be hiring millions of women to save a buck)
To: Tax-chick
10 posted on
10/01/2014 6:46:21 PM PDT by
null and void
(If the wage gap were real, American companies would be hiring millions of women to save a buck)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
Buboic plague dna has been found in the teeth of victims. They seem to center their ideas on rats spreading the disease but it was fleas that did the biting.
There is evidence that it was caused by a bacterium. There is no evidence it was a virus.
11 posted on
10/01/2014 6:47:05 PM PDT by
Adder
(No, Mr. Franklin, we could NOT keep it.)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
Any cursory study of the Justinian plague and the very documented Great Mortality of 1349 will show that Ebola - one of many hemorrhagic fevers, presenting symptoms of a virus in its earliest phases of trans-generational development - shows they are not the same diseases.
The symptoms are very different, for one thing, and while one can argue convincingly that the respiratory and lymphatic (septicemic) symptoms of associated with Yersinia pestis might have originated from another bacterial family, it wasn't the virus that causes Ebola.
15 posted on
10/01/2014 6:55:22 PM PDT by
Prospero
(Si Deus trucido mihi, ego etiam fides Deus.)
To: 2ndreconmarine; Fitzcarraldo; Covenantor; Mother Abigail; EBH; Dog Gone; ...
Ping...
A link to this thread has been posted on the Ebola Surveillance Thread
Short answer: No.
Bubonic/pneumonic Plague, The Spanish (1918) Flu, and Ebola may all cause cytokine storms, though and that may add to the lethality of the pathogens.
16 posted on
10/01/2014 6:59:22 PM PDT by
Smokin' Joe
(How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
They got controversial and stupid mixed up.
21 posted on
10/01/2014 7:21:04 PM PDT by
SpaceBar
To: 2ndDivisionVet
There has been interesting DNA studies of survivors and non-survivors of the Black Death and that it weeded out certain peoples/families and left others who were more genetically resistant. In some of the bacteria-based studies I have seen they stated that people of African ancestry were more likely to come down with the disease than people of European ancestry as the disease had already done a Darwinian sweep of the European continent. If the Black Death was virus oriented or a major part of it, then some of the survivors may have had a genetic difference that allowed them to survive.
25 posted on
10/01/2014 7:37:29 PM PDT by
Robert357
(D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; ...
Thanks 2ndDivisionVet. Apparently they've not heard of Yersinia pestis.
32 posted on
10/08/2014 9:21:05 PM PDT by
SunkenCiv
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
“new research suggests...”
famous catch-all phrase that allows one to say ANYTHING and get away with it! LOL!
43 posted on
10/09/2014 4:55:19 AM PDT by
left that other site
(You shall know the Truth, and The Truth Shall Set You Free.)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
Fleas hitch rides on rats who hitch rides on anything they can...including ships.
Not likely, but it is possible that both Ebola, The 'Spanish' (1918) Flu, and the Black Death all caused cytokine storms in a large number of the victims, leading to similar symptoms and similar outcomes.
44 posted on
10/09/2014 7:30:00 AM PDT by
Smokin' Joe
(How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
To: 2ndreconmarine; Fitzcarraldo; Covenantor; Mother Abigail; EBH; Dog Gone; ...
45 posted on
10/09/2014 7:31:46 AM PDT by
Smokin' Joe
(How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
A former SEAL who became a history professor at UC Davis came to the same conclusion about 20 years ago. Historiographers started matching hospital and doctors logs of the time period against the conventional historical conclusions and it didn’t match up.
What the documents were showing indicated hemorrhagic fever symptoms rather than plague.
Also, the number of people dying in certain places, and hwo fast they seemed to do it indicated that it probably wasn’t plague.
He wasn’t suggesting plague didn’t happen. He was indicating that something like Ebola was happening around the same period.
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