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Should Christians Be Serious Preppers?
American Clarion ^ | September 23, 2014 | Gina Miller

Posted on 09/23/2014 6:13:35 AM PDT by WXRGina

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To: WXRGina

You are asking the wrong question.

Daily I am amazed at all of God’s creation. I delight at watching ants, all hard at work as a team, collecting and storing provisions for lean times. I get angry at the injustice of the grasshopper that comes along and takes what it wants from those who have worked hard.

In all of the animal kingdom you see examples of opposite behaviour. Some species care for their young while other species abandon or eat their young. Some animals mate for life while others jump from mate to mate offering no loyalty, captives to their own base desires. We say they are exhibiting animalistic behaviour. They have no choice. We as human beings do have a choice as we are endowed with free will and the ability to observe all of creation and make a conscious choice as to how we want to live.

It seems that all of the mechanisms of liberal, socialist society, from media to public education, are trying to convince us to be our base self. They tell those who need an excuse not to do the work to be their higher self - if it feels good, do it and don’t feel guilty. People who fall for that are more easily controlled and exploited.

So the real question you should be asking yourself is: am I an ant or a grasshopper?


41 posted on 09/23/2014 8:45:14 AM PDT by anonsquared
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To: cloudmountain
Plan on starving to death, then.

Prep to keep yourself alive so you can help others focus on The Lord.

42 posted on 09/23/2014 8:55:16 AM PDT by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Asperges me, Domine, hyssopo et mundabor, Lavabis me, et super nivem dealbabor.)
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To: Kartographer

Thought you and those on your list would be interested in contributing to this thread.


43 posted on 09/23/2014 9:04:43 AM PDT by anonsquared
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To: WXRGina

7 years is NOT the issue.

The point is instructive to not waste times of plenty, but store up for times of need.


44 posted on 09/23/2014 9:14:41 AM PDT by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: WXRGina

A much bigger question for Christians is, what do we do for a living, and what do we do at work, not prepping.

Most of the bad things we do, we do at work, for money.


45 posted on 09/23/2014 9:33:53 AM PDT by ansel12
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To: CynicalBear

Again, you seem to be missing my point. Nowhere do I say we shouldn’t be good stewards and wise like our grandparents—nowhere. That’s not what I’m talking about.

What I call “doomsday” prepping is the EXTREME prepping for an event such as a complete societal breakdown, apocalyptic in nature, NOT the ordinary storing up your garden vegetables for the few winter months. Storing up green beans and summer squash is much different than storing a bunker with tons of guns and ammunition, gas masks, seven years’ worth of MREs, water system, etc. out of fear of a massive disaster.


46 posted on 09/23/2014 9:54:06 AM PDT by WXRGina (The Founding Fathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: WXRGina

Seven years.


47 posted on 09/23/2014 9:54:53 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: WXRGina
'I honestly struggle with this issue, partly because I’m poor and have little extra space (other than a garage that’s not air conditioned), and partly because I don’t see the Lord clearly telling us to hoard provisions.

In that case the first step, I suggest, would be to prepare your heart.

"And he did evil, because he prepared not his heart to seek the LORD." 2 Ch 12:14

You, me and others miss God's direction because we get busy and don't seek Him....I missed Him speaking to me and it cost me dearly but now I see He tried to tell me before. On the other hand I've missed serious injury, maybe worse, because I was listening at His prompt and responded.

48 posted on 09/23/2014 9:57:41 AM PDT by virgil283 ( adolescent self-righteousness has become so fashionable.that common sense, decency have suffered" -)
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To: anonsquared
You are asking the wrong question.

So the real question you should be asking yourself is: am I an ant or a grasshopper?

I'm not asking the wrong question. As I said elsewhere, this is not about being a good steward and a hard worker or being a slob.

Extreme prepping--doomsday prepping--is what I'm talking about, not being the good ant who is prepared for the winter. This is ultimately about where we place our faith--in the work of our hands or in the Lord.

49 posted on 09/23/2014 9:59:06 AM PDT by WXRGina (The Founding Fathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: virgil283

Yes, that’s the main point of the column—that our trust must be in the Lord.


50 posted on 09/23/2014 9:59:48 AM PDT by WXRGina (The Founding Fathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: WXRGina
>>What I call “doomsday” prepping is the EXTREME prepping for an event such as a complete societal breakdown, apocalyptic in nature,<<

It seems to me that you are getting caught up in symantics. Think about this. The "mentality" I'm talking about (my grandparents time and before) included a well with a windmill to pump water as well as rain collected in a cistern. Water was filtered through a sand filter when needed. They had no electricity whatsoever. They had seven sons each with their own shotgun and or rifle. Flour for bread etc was milled from wheat that they grew. Animals were used for work and transportation as well as food. They grew crops from seed saved from the year before. Wool was spun into thread for sewing clothes and leather was made from hides of cattle slaughtered and the meat used for food. Anything they were not able to produce themselves such as salt and sugar was purchased for the next year with profits from produce sold at harvest time. They weren't doing that out of fear of some disaster but was a natural lifestyle.

Now, don't get me wrong. I do realize that a lifestyle like that is certainly not fully possible for most today. Although it is for more than would admit it or be willing to work toward at least a great extent of. I'm talking about the self sufficiency attitude. I only have 2 1/2 acres here but have most of that self sufficiency established. It's only my wife and I now so I give away what I can and could grow more or allow others to have a garden here and even teach them if needed. Our meals now cost us less then $1 each and we don't yet mill our own flower or butcher our own beef. I do butcher all of our other meat which consists of chicken, rabbit, turkey, pork and home grown tilapia in an aquaponics system. I don't do it out of fear but because its healthier and much cheaper.

That all said. I would be much less affected by a "disastor" unless it directly impacted this locality in which case I trust and rely on God to supply. Rather than think in terms of "doomsday prepper" I simply choose a different lifestyle which ends up working better and more naturally than the thought processes thought of today. This type of lifestyle has been in existence for much longer than the lifestyles of today.

51 posted on 09/23/2014 10:52:23 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decideIf I need to locate a verse, do I ask thed to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: WXRGina

Winters and times of lack have been known to last more than a season.

Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Would you prefer others to the best of their abilities prepare for a rainy day thereby being able to help those around them? Or are you okay with those who use any excuse not to prepare or be responsible and who will eventually drag down those around them? Which do you choose to be - a help or a hindrance?

It seems to me that you are looking for support in your critical judgement of those who choose to prep for a long time line. What does it matter to you if people choose to prep instead of say buying a new car, going on vacation, or constantly obtain the latest electronic device? It’s their money they are spending. I choose not to judge those who feel comfortable with a seven year prep. I would be happy to have them as my neighbours and friends. I am very wary in regards to those in society who do not make the right choices and instead demand that those who do subsidise them in their wicked ways. I judge the meth head who would come to my house to steal everything including the copper pipes, not a prepper who truly is minding his own business. Is the meth head going to be able to do God’s work in a survival situation or will it be preppers who come to the aid of those they see around them who even though they are working hard are still in need?

You need to get over your judgement and yes jealousy of those you perceive to be prepping too much. You come across as a leftist - how dare they have more than the rest of us!


52 posted on 09/23/2014 11:01:25 AM PDT by anonsquared
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To: WXRGina

One more thing... I put my faith in the fact that God had given me a healthy body and a work ethic to match. You can’t be a prepper without a good work ethic. That is my gift and seems to be the gift of every prepper I’ve met, including the ones on FR who freely give of their time and advice to help those who will listen. Are you also suggesting we waste the gifts so generously given by our Creator? I see God in every prepper I know through their actions and deeds. Finding God in those who have made sloth an art form, from politicians to drug addled welfare recipients, not so much. Why don’t you spend your gift of writing convincing those people to change their ways? That planting would bear fruit for all of society.


53 posted on 09/23/2014 11:15:30 AM PDT by anonsquared
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To: anonsquared

“I learned long ago, never to wrestle with a pig. You get dirty, and besides, the pig likes it.” - George Bernard Shaw


54 posted on 09/23/2014 12:16:05 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: WXRGina

The short answer is yes.


55 posted on 09/23/2014 3:23:00 PM PDT by ColdSteelTalon (Light is fading to shadow, and casting its shroud over all we have known...)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd
Plan on starving to death, then. Prep to keep yourself alive so you can help others focus on The Lord.

?????

56 posted on 09/23/2014 4:00:03 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: anonsquared
It seems to me that you are looking for support in your critical judgement of those who choose to prep for a long time line. What does it matter to you if people choose to prep instead of say buying a new car, going on vacation, or constantly obtain the latest electronic device?

That's all I need to read to understand your comments--to understand that you completely misunderstand the whole point of my column. There is NO judgmentalism toward preppers in it. I'm asking honest questions, but you don't seem to get that. I assume you read the column, though. Maybe you didn't.

57 posted on 09/23/2014 4:17:22 PM PDT by WXRGina (The Founding Fathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: cloudmountain

My statement stands for itself.


58 posted on 09/23/2014 4:33:41 PM PDT by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Asperges me, Domine, hyssopo et mundabor, Lavabis me, et super nivem dealbabor.)
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To: anonsquared
"Why do you pass judgment on your brother? Or you, why do you despise your brother? For we will all stand before the judgment seat of God; for it is written, “As I live, says the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.” So then each of us will give an account of himself to God. Therefore let us not pass judgment on one another any longer, but rather decide never to put a stumbling block or hindrance in the way of a brother."
Romans 14:10-13

A good scripter for this thread.
59 posted on 09/23/2014 9:23:14 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer; WXRGina

That is an excellent scripture for this thread. When you consider that for every quote from the Bible you can find another conveying the opposite thought, I think the best quote to apply to this thread would be, “Love one another.”

And what better way to do that then to feed someone when they are hungry because you were the one doing the forward thinking and the hard work. I have yet to meet a single prepper who was doing it for themselves. Every prepper I know whether they have seven weeks, seven months, or seven years worth of preps are doing it for the people around them whom they love. That and that alone tells me everything I need to know about them.

Thanks for all of your posts Kart and add me to your ping list.


60 posted on 09/24/2014 6:21:47 AM PDT by anonsquared
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