Posted on 09/20/2014 3:21:38 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
I don't mean to be cynical, but follow the money and you will find the power.
Who's running the training?
Will they use the GI Bill education money to go to these Obama sanctioned training institutions?
Who do the principals of these institutions donate to, and are their employees Unionized and are a portion of their Union Dues used to support Democratic Candidates?
- I get your point, but I beg to differ.
Compare a Western nation like France to an ordinary household (anywhere within the OECD) with a hefty mortgage loan that ‘owns’ the house they live in.
A comparison would lead to the conclusion that the average household in the OECD is deeper in debt than France is.
A married couple who borrow $/£/€ 200 000 to buy the house of their dreams while earning an annual income of say two thirds of that amount is no big deal. So why should it be a big concern for anyone if France or any other country has a national debt that is close to its GDP?
Contrary to the married couple, France run no risk of losing a job, ending up disabled and France will not retire.
Even the once “close to bankruptcy” economies of Greece and Ireland display economic growth today (Irish economy is presently growing by 7.7% at annual basis!!) and so is American economy.
Governments should strive to reduce national debt. But a large national debt as such isn't the end of the Western world.
what will they do after the panels are installed?
I noticed on a show a few weeks ago a man in North Carolina made his own fuel for his truck with a system burning wood chips. He said many people before gasoline was so easy to obtain used the processing method he used. The back of the truck had a stove and a fuel pipe ran into the engine. For long tern reliable energy I’d invest in a couple thousand gallons of coal oil storage. It remains stable long term and can be used on demand for heat and lights. If I had a significant flowing water source near by I would harness it to power a generator. The man did that as well. He lives in the mountains so solar is not practical.
Maintenance. Panels need to be cleaned and batteries need to replaced periodically. Some of the electronic parts will fail and need to be replaced as well..
50,000 future Dem. voters!
Solar panel installation is very simple. If I can do it, most others can do it. (Then there are those who cannot read). Want to learn how yourself, watch a gazillion Youtube videos, its that easy. “Job creation” for idiots.
Oh, I agree that some solar augmentation on a individual basis is a good idea, but you can install that yourself.
Larger scale installations are just as vulnerable in a societal breakdown for whatever reasons. What the big O has in mind is using commercial rooftop large installations to augment the power grids or large commercial power substations. The costs of which will never come close to paying for themselves during the product lifespan so they must be subsidized or the cost of all the other conventional power options must be increased dramatically..
Which is also the plan of the big 0...
It will of course, wreck what’s left of the economy.
On a large scale, I would be more inclined to spend money on geothermal, then I would wind, or solar. Even the solar thermal plants are not economical without huge subsidies to bring the end cost of the power down to a competitive level.
Maybe they can collect the unburned feathers from the dead and dying birds to make pillows and sell them for the extra cash.
Everything that comes from any president is politics. That’s a given.
The big question with solar energy is whether or not it will be taken off the main grid. Other energy lobbying groups will no doubt attempt to block it. That is also a given.
I have one friend who changed over and sk far he is very happy about it.
We are going to burn up. That “carbon” is what regulates our climate. Put too much in the air, sun can’t get through and we will freeze. Take too much out and we will burn up.
This is the reason for global warming. The rats by their actions are actually the cause of global warming. Unintended consequences of course.
The only way to end global warming is by building more refineries and coal plants. The carbon in the atmosphere will create a barrier that will cool us off. Carbon is God’s thermostat.
This is why the scientists in the 70’s said we are going to freeze. Remember CFC’s? Just a coincidence tha we removed them and the ozone was able to allow more sun in, hence warming the planet.
Now, most if not all of us here believe what I said is a crock. And it is. However, this is my argument to liberals and they look at me with their jaws dropped. When they tell me it isn’t so, I ask them to give me an alternative theory. Either the scientists are totally incompetent which invalidates their entire agenda or the scientists are lying for a political agenda or the scientists are actually correc, but they have been threatened with losing their funding so they are rising the line.
The cleaning is the big kicker.
Leave it dirty, and you have significant loss of efficiency.
Wash it off, and you scratch it (silica) with the silica sand and reduce efficiency.
Then the wind blows and sandblasts it and reduces efficiency.
Oy... Hate writing on an iPad.
On solar panels. Their is a husband and wife who developed a solar panel that can be driven over. The thought is to take a subdivision, pave it with solar panel type material, have it connect to a small power plant and take the subdivision off the grid.
Most oil and gas lease sites have solar. It’s just a mast with 2 panels on them about 4 feet by 2 feet. They power the entire site normally. Keep in mind it’s usually 24VDC. For a 120/208 system, you’d need something a bit more robust.
OK....lol..You sound so wall street.
France, since you mentioned it, is and will continue to be supported by the EU through a slightly different process then what the US central bank is doing.
Neither county has the political will to get themselves or anyone else out of the debt spiral.
All our western democracies with few exceptions are running in part on borrowed money and fed interventions. This was never meant to continue indefinitely. It is a government bubble, in the same way as the private sector real-estate bubble was created and it has to pop at some point.
Taking just the US, the accumulated debt can never be paid off...and the effort to pay the interest only on the continuously growing debt is going to keep the economy so ham strung that it cannot hope to grow out of it. Not ever, because that money has to be confiscated from the economy which would have used it for growth, but it can’t.
Lastly, I have no idea where you got that high or even average growth figure for the US.
” September 17 (RIA Novosti) - US Federal Reserve System revised down its US GDP growth forecast to 2-2.2 percent for 2014 and 2.6-3 percent for 2015.
The inflation level forecast remained unchanged at 1.5-1.7 percent for 2014, with unemployment rate estimated to be 5.9-6 percent instead of 6-6.1 percent expected earlier.
The 2015 US GDP growth forecast has been revised down to 2.6-3 percent from 3-3.2 percent back in June. The inflation level was re-estimated at 1.6-1.9 percent instead of previous 1.5-2 percent. The unemployment rate estimates went down from 5.4-5.7 percent to 5.4-5.6 percent for 2015.
In the longer run, the Federal Reserve projects the US economy growth to be 2-2.3 percent, with the unemployment rate reaching 5.2-5.5 percent and inflation standing at 2 percent.”
BTW...
France GDP for 2013 is .02 percent.
It is expected to be 0 for the year or slightly negative while the government grows incrementally every year.
Lastly....as to Scotland
Last quarter Scottish GDP rose to 1 percent for the first rise in a long time..
I have no idea where you got that 7% number.
Although Scotland appears to be turning the corner, they are really crap, and having been there a couple of years ago, their standard of living makes the US look like a palatial resort.
Yeah, so do the railroads for the monitoring stations. Highway departments...water...
So will I when I get it built at my place in Alabama to run a security system and for other purposes.
Oh Ya, that’s more than enough for those low voltage applications.
Follow the money. First, we know where the money is coming from. It’s us. Then, who is to provide the training? Who decided that they should? Who in the WH are they connected to? How much are they making on the deal?
At this point, can solar produce more energy than it consumes to manufacture the equipment? I have not heard data on that in a long time.
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