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Obama understands neither war nor Islam
Dan Miller's Blog ^ | September 14, 2014 | Dan Miller

Posted on 09/14/2014 11:58:58 AM PDT by DanMiller

Winston Churchill understood both. Instead of "blood, toil, tears and sweat," Obama offers a coalition of unwilling nations which reject our basic values of freedom. He intends to arm and train "moderate" Islamists who not only reject our basic values but are likely to help the Islamic State and its various cohorts and permutations. 

ISIS scared

Islam is as Islamists do

Is Islam the "religion of peace? Here's a video of a debate held nearly three years ago in New York City.

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While arguing that Islam is now peaceful, the debaters so arguing also argued that they hoped it would become so. One even urged those watching the debate to vote that it is a peaceful religion to help it to become one.

Please see also the current discussion at Yale on whether Hirsi Ali should be permitted to speak. The Muslim Students' Association,

along with 35 co-signing student organizations, including the Yale Women’s Center, the Slifka Center (Yale’s hub for Jewish life), the Black Student Alliance, and Yale Students for Israel, sent a campus-wide e-mail that argued that Hirsi Ali’s history of “hate speech” and provocative statements, which include advocating the “defeat” of Islam, ought to disqualify her from speaking at Yale. They felt “disrespected,” they said, by the very act of inviting her; evidently they found her ideas too dangerous and her words too caustic for the virgin ears of their fellow undergraduates.

Some fine day, Islam may become peaceful and tolerant of other religions. However, we are stuck with Islam as it is now, not as it once may have been and not as it may eventually become. Islam, despite fantasies about the cataclysmic horrors of man-made global warming climate change, is the greatest threat to Western civilization and must be dealt with accordingly.

[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEnm1CbA5pY]

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Obama and the Islamic State

On September 12th, Mark Steyn opined that

When it comes to war, [Obama] suffers from an additional burden: before he can persuade anybody else, he first has to persuade himself. And he can’t do it. So he gave the usual listless performance of a surly actor who resents the part he’s been given. It’s not just the accumulation of equivocations and qualifications – the “Islamic State” is not Islamic, our war with them is not a war, there’ll be no boots on the ground except the exotic footwear of a vast unspecified coalition – but something more basic: What he mainly communicates is that he doesn’t mean it. [Emphasis added.]

Unlike Obama, Churchill left no doubt that he understood war and that he intended to achieve victory over the horrors of Nazism. That is what happened.

[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TlkN-dcDCk]

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Churchill had long urged the civilized world to halt the advance of Nazism. Nazism, Communism and Islam are similar.

[A]ll three are predicated on supremacist propositions – namely that a group of people is inherently superior to all the others.  What exactly that Master Group is depends on the specific differentiator that the particular ideology is centred upon.  Since Nazism saw the world through a ‘racial’ perspective, its fundamental proposition was the superiority of the ‘Aryan race’ (the Master Race or Herrenvolk); centred on ‘social’ differences, the Communists decreed that the ‘proletariat’ was inherently loftier than every other class; for the Islamists, whose particular angle is ‘religious’, it is the adherents of Islam that are ‘entitled’ to unquestioned, divinely-ordained supremacy. [Emphasis added.]

. . . .

[A]ll three extreme ideologies promote a world view in which there is an inherent, perpetual and inevitable conflict between the superior or ‘Master Group’ (race, class or religion) and ‘the others’.  ‘The others’, needless to say, despite being fundamentally inferior, are intent on subjugating the Master Group.   The conflict (call it ‘Kampf um Lebensraum’, ‘class struggle’ or ‘jihad’) is fundamental not just to the ideology, but also to its practical implementation.  Conflicts (especially when portrayed as global and quasi-existential) represent ‘exceptional circumstances’ or ‘force majeure’; as such, they justify employing ‘exceptional means’. [Emphasis added.]

. . . .

ll three ideologies have a similar ultimate goal: to do away with the extant ‘injustice’ and replace it with a ‘new global order’.  The end is thus, invariably, the ‘Perfect World’; so perfect, in fact, that that end justifies and even sanctifies the murderous means.  That ‘Perfect World’ – call it Millenarian Reich, Global Commune or Islamic Caliphate – will be achieved as a result of the Master Group’s final victory over ‘the others’. [Emphasis added.]

Going to war with Islam may not be enough and "reeducation" may also be necessary. However, it is necessary to get their attention, in ways they can understand, first.

A coalition of the unwilling

Who is in the alleged coalition and what does Obama want them to do? The Obama Administration is not saying.

White House Chief of Staff Denis McDonough repeatedly declined to say whether any other countries have agreed to provide troops on the ground in Syria as a part of President Obama’s efforts to build a coalition.

He repeatedly said Americans would hear the news from Secretary of State John Kerry later this week.

But then he said that the president wasn’t looking for boots-on-the-ground troops, after all.

“Other [countries] have suggested that they’re willing to do that, but that’s not what we’re looking for right now,” McDonough said.

What does Obama want His alleged coalition to do? Send imams armed with fatwas urging that the IS, et al, repent and become true (and therefore peaceful) Islamists?

Please see also Coalition of the unwilling, US Gen. John Allen named to lead coalition war on ISIS, but allies deterred by Obama’s ambiguities, Turkey's Frankenstein Monster and Obama, the Islamic State and Islam, the enemy which shall not be named.

"Moderate, vetted rebels"

As noted by Patrick Poole at PJ Tatler on September 13th in an article titled Yet Another US-Backed Syrian Rebel Group Makes Peace With ISIS,

Obama’s hopes to do anything of substance in Syria has taken another severe blow as the US-backed and armed Syrian Revolutionaries Front (SRF) has struck a peace deal with ISIS yesterday according to both Arabic and English language news reports. [Emphasis added.]

The SRF had only a few months ago been deemed by the US foreign policy establishment as “the West’s best fighting chance against Syria’s Islamist armies.”

Now AFP reports:

Syrian rebels and jihadists from the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria have agreed a non-aggression pact for the first time in a suburb of the capital Damascus, a monitoring group said on Friday.

The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said the ceasefire deal was agreed between ISIS and moderate and Islamist rebels in Hajar al-Aswad, south of the capital.

Under the deal, “the two parties will respect a truce until a final solution is found and they promise not to attack each other because they consider the principal enemy to be the Nussayri regime.”

Nussayri is a pejorative term for the Alawite sect, an offshoot of Shiite Islam to which President Bashar al-Assad belongs. According to the media reports other groups joining the ceasefire with ISIS include Liwa Ahrar Turkman al-Golan, Liwa Hittin & Liwa al-Umma al-Wahida.

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As Congress takes up a bill to fund Obama’s plan to arm and train so-called “vetted moderate” Syrian rebels, even some analysts are beginning to admit that finding the right allies in Syria will be difficult. With the State Department’s disastrous record so far of identifying “vetted moderate” rebel groups who refuse to ally with Al-Qaeda and ISIS, and ISIS leaders openly bragging about the US arming and training rebels groups that have now defected to ISIS, some prudent caution on the part of Congress is in order before throwing more money and weapons into Syria and Iraq.

Conclusion

Obama claims to believe that Islam, like all other religions, rejects violence and those who use it. However, Christians, Jews and others neither torture nor behead infidels and apostates. The IS, et al, do that. Nor do Christians and Jews fight wars to force others to embrace their religions. The IS, et al, also do that. However, based on the words and actions of the United Nations against Israel, one might conclude that "Zionists" are worse than the Islamic State and its affiliates.

Is the legacy that Obama wants to leave behind when He vacates the White House one of peace through submission to Islam? It seems so, and far too many appear to react with apathy rather than alarm. Will there be enough time -- and sufficient will -- after He leaves office to pursue a policy of peace through victory? If not, Islam will continue to be violent and, most likely, will become even more violent than now.

Mr. Magoo

Here, as a public service, is a video on how to behave during an Islamic massacre:

[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKerbOi_mrI&w=640&h=390]

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TOPICS: Government; History; Politics; Religion
KEYWORDS: islam; islamicstate; miserablefailure; obama
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1 posted on 09/14/2014 11:58:58 AM PDT by DanMiller
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To: DanMiller

The Not-War against Not-Islam.


2 posted on 09/14/2014 12:00:55 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" means something different to 0bama.)
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To: DanMiller

To say that our enemy islamist CIC does not understand islam is disingenuous at best.


3 posted on 09/14/2014 12:01:12 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: onedoug


4 posted on 09/14/2014 12:04:10 PM PDT by Diogenesis (The EXEMPT Congress is complicit in the absence of impeachment)
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To: TigersEye

The Not-War against Not-Islam.

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By the Not-President.


5 posted on 09/14/2014 12:11:13 PM PDT by Starboard
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To: DanMiller
I'm sure this plan will work perfectly.


6 posted on 09/14/2014 12:15:43 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: DanMiller

There a “political spins and lies” but his portrayal of ISIS as not being Islamic is tantamount to claiming the Sun orbits the Earth in 2014.

I believe he is mentally impaired an can medically be proven to be so.

We are all at risk the longer he is allowed to command our military without some sort of real public medical examination to authenticate he’s not insane.


7 posted on 09/14/2014 12:18:30 PM PDT by R0CK3T
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To: DanMiller

Mr. Miller, you do not know Obama.


8 posted on 09/14/2014 12:18:35 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: Diogenesis

They destroyed our buildings and we did what?


9 posted on 09/14/2014 12:18:53 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: DanMiller

Bammy is not a POTUS of Peace.


10 posted on 09/14/2014 12:25:34 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: DanMiller

In other news — Tiger Woods doesn’t understand golf.


11 posted on 09/14/2014 12:29:00 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy ("Harvey Dent, can we trust him?" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBsdV--kLoQ)
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To: ClearCase_guy

...and Waffle House skanks.


12 posted on 09/14/2014 12:35:20 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: Paladin2

What do you want from a jihadi who has the largest army and wallet in the world?

He is merely upholding tradition, lying, cheating and piracy of the truth. That , and more all bundled up and packaged as “the pResident of the US of Eh”?


13 posted on 09/14/2014 1:38:19 PM PDT by himno hero (hadnuff)
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To: onedoug

They destroyed our buildings and we did what?

Answer: We made them EXEMPT from DeathCARE/ObamaCARE
just like the EXEMPT Congress, EXEMPT SCOTUS, and their
EXEMPT Staff and EXEMPT families.

"At the foundation of our civil liberties lies
the principle that denies to government officials
an exceptional position before the law and which
subjects them to the same rules of conduct
that are commands to the citizen."

Justice Louis D. Brandeis

14 posted on 09/14/2014 1:49:42 PM PDT by Diogenesis (The EXEMPT Congress is complicit in the absence of impeachment)
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To: DanMiller

Don’t let Clown Prince nobama off the hook by saying incompetence or that he isn’t aware. The degenerate chronic liar’s actions and policies are intentional. Apparently, it is difficult for many to accept that a traitor holds the Presidency. Many are come-along co-conspirators.


15 posted on 09/14/2014 2:27:37 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or reeducation Camp?)
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To: onedoug
I don't know whether Obama fails to understand Islam and is deluded about it or is simply disingenuous. In either event, his statements are consistent with His deluded and disingenuous statements about many things, including America.

Obama's stated position on Islam seems consistent with that of the "moderate" Muslim debaters in the video, who argued -- with more hope for a peaceful Islam in the future than understanding of what Islam is today -- that Islam is a peaceful religion.

Whether Obama is delusional or disingenuous, or a combination of the two, probably makes little difference. His foreign and domestic policies toward Islam seem to be based on His position as He articulates it. That is the problem with which we have to deal. I wish I knew how.

16 posted on 09/14/2014 2:44:42 PM PDT by DanMiller (Dan Miller)
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“I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.”

His own words seem perfectly clear to me.


17 posted on 09/14/2014 2:53:41 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: hal ogen

Obama has no mind of his own—he just plays back all the propaganda he was filled with. His handlers do his thinking for him. We need to replace his handlers.


18 posted on 09/14/2014 3:53:31 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll Onward! Ride to the sound of the guns!)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

Clown Prince nobama and his handlers should be imprisoned...not just replaced. They are criminals and traitors.


19 posted on 09/14/2014 4:09:33 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or reeducation Camp?)
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To: Starboard

The JV presdent .


20 posted on 09/14/2014 4:56:59 PM PDT by Recompennation (Constitutional protection for all not ju st selectively for Democrats.)
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