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How to deal with diseases in long term survival situations
SHTF School ^ | 8/11/14 | Selco

Posted on 08/12/2014 3:59:02 PM PDT by Kartographer

They also say that there is no way of some doomsday scenario of sick person getting onto regular flight, contaminating everyone, because it spreads through body fluids only etc.

All good info, but somewhere at the end of article there is one sentence that goes like this: „… so there is clearly no reason for panic…“

As I said few times before, whenever someone from government, law enforcement, or similar says „no reason for panic“ I get strong urge to buy more ammo (food, water, gas masks…).

OK, I’m a burned man and had bad experience from listening to similar statements, if you are member of my course you know what kind of messages we heard even in days before we were surrounded in the city with no way out.

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To: Mamzelle

Both he and the American lady think they picked it up in the area they used for sterilization. Other people report they caught it from touching something a sick person touched.


21 posted on 08/12/2014 6:02:41 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: mabarker1

Watch a youtube video by patriot nurse

http://youtu.be/DOfthwm_v3E

The 5 top antibiotics that you should have to treat most infections.


22 posted on 08/12/2014 6:07:02 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: Lurker

I have used it, and it works GREAT!!


23 posted on 08/12/2014 6:12:18 PM PDT by SgtHooper (Anyone who remembers the 60's, was not there!)
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To: mabarker1

i love The Patriot Nurse...

Top 5 Antibiotics for SHTF Storage

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOfthwm_v3E&list=PL7901C421DB2E7A82&index=12


24 posted on 08/12/2014 6:22:24 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Kartographer

Let’s not forget about building up our immune systems. Avoiding antibiotics for non-life threatening illnesses, using non antibac soaps and sanitizers, and taking probiotics can help greatly.

I’m wondering what food grade H2O2 would do to Ebola.


25 posted on 08/12/2014 6:22:33 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: B4Ranch
ya beat me... i have watched over 100 of her videos and she is spot on
26 posted on 08/12/2014 6:26:53 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: SgtBob
yup, i have saved many of his pages on my HDD so i'll have them even if the net goes down
27 posted on 08/12/2014 6:28:48 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Chode

That is a good idea.

Should somehow put together a big PDF file that can be copied to HDD, Smart phone, tablet and USB


28 posted on 08/12/2014 6:29:53 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: mountainbunny

Celiac Disaster Preparedness in Regard to Foods

http://glutenfreetip.com/2012/01/22/celiac-disaster-preparedness-in-regard-to-foods/

Gluten-free Food Storage

http://www.ldsliving.com/story/64382-gluten-free-food-storage

Basics of Gluten Free Prepping - American Preppers Network

http://americanpreppersnetwork.com/2012/04/basics-of-gluten-free-prepping.html


29 posted on 08/12/2014 6:35:07 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: GeronL
yup, the guy has some great advise/insight/wisdom
30 posted on 08/12/2014 6:35:27 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: Chode

Here’s my other favorite patriot nurse video.

Who Will Die First when SHTF: A WARNING
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J42CLa5iATM


31 posted on 08/12/2014 6:47:42 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: Bigg Red

Antibiotics are tricky, and getting trickier. You really need a methodology to use them properly, and such a methodology is rare even among doctors. Some considerations:

1) There are at least a dozen major drug resistant pathogens in the US right now. From the CDC: “Each year in the United States, at least 2 million people become infected with bacteria that are resistant to antibiotics and at least 23,000 people die each year as a direct result of these infections. Many more people die from other conditions that were complicated by an antibiotic-resistant infection.”

Importantly, many of these DR bacteria are in your system right now, but create no problems because healthy bacteria compete with them for living space (and win). But antibiotics may kill off so many healthy bacteria that it gives opportunistic DR pathogens the chance to have a population explosion. Right now, many doctors are recommending that patients take probiotics in between the time they take antibiotics, to restore their healthy flora.

2) Some doctors are stepping antibiotics, starting with the oldest, penicillin, which still works in a lot of cases; then if it doesn’t work, using the next oldest antibiotic. They can do this with chronic, not acute, infections, until they find an antibiotic that works.

3) The bottom line is that you really need an expert to use antibiotics properly. So in a SHTF scenario, unless you have a doctor with, you might be playing Russian roulette.


32 posted on 08/12/2014 6:50:20 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: Secret Agent Man

This is quite true. All I hope was to point out a lesser known alternative to a dangerous threat. For some years, dead mice stuffed with Tylenol have been used to try and wipe out an invasive snake. Importantly, a snake or other critter killed by Tylenol would likely still be edible by a human.


33 posted on 08/12/2014 6:54:39 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: B4Ranch

yup, along with the three on burns and the ones on gunshot wounds

if you goto this link it has all her videos numbered in order starting with the first ones

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOfthwm_v3E&list=PL7901C421DB2E7A82&index=12

she has spent time in Vietnam and lost her husband a couple years ago, she is a fine woman indeed


34 posted on 08/12/2014 7:22:18 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

good points,too. although i’m not sure the average person may be able to tell if poison or tylenol killed something, but if you know what it is for sure, that would help.


35 posted on 08/12/2014 7:45:00 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: scan59

I can’t do the link here on my tablet, but you get the idea...http://www.aquaticpharmacy.com/product-info.html.

I haven’t researched, but when I bought a supply last year, this was the cheapest place by far.


36 posted on 08/12/2014 8:46:40 PM PDT by yorkiemom ( "...if fascism ever comes to America, it will come in the name of liberalism." - Ronald Reagan)
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To: driftdiver

I several of those starting about 25 years ago. I use them all the time. Sometimes, Docs ask me if I am a nurse. LOL

No, I am just a well-informed consumer, who took the time to learn the lingo, so that I could readily communicate with my Docs, and my Dad’s Docs.

Plus it greatly enhanced my understanding of all the various issues my family and I have had over the years. Every now and then I go to the University Bookstore and pick up an updated copy when it goes on sale at the end of a semester.


37 posted on 08/12/2014 8:48:02 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Nailbiter

see post 8 and 9


38 posted on 08/12/2014 8:54:29 PM PDT by Nailbiter
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To: mountainbunny

Grow rice or some other alternative and make your own flour.
No, I am not kidding.

A coffee grinder or blender will work if you don’t have your own flour mill.

I have grown my own wheat and rye, harvested, thrashed, winnowed, and ground it up to make sour dough bread and biscuits.

I am planning to grow a little rice next year in old milk jugs.

We grow a lot of our own stuff, and dehydrate, can, or freeze it. Using heirloom seeds and saving them, I have garden plans that can be used to provide all our nutritional needs if push comes to shove.


39 posted on 08/12/2014 8:56:14 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: scan59

Agricultural supply stores often have antibiotics. The stuff for animals is the same as what’s used for humans, and no script needed.

Depending on what form you get it in, you may want a scale to measure out doses with. Calculate by body weight.

I did that once for my cat.


40 posted on 08/12/2014 9:14:10 PM PDT by Ellendra ("Laws were most numerous when the Commonwealth was most corrupt." -Tacitus)
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