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Ferguson As America: "There Is A Brewing Problem... And It's Extremely Dangerous"
Zero Hedge ^ | 8/12/14 | Martin Armstrong

Posted on 08/12/2014 12:41:22 PM PDT by Kartographer

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To: no-to-illegals

Dunno bout you, but I quit trusting LEO in general after working towards becoming one a number of years ago. Went through the oral review, background checks, psych evals, so forth and so on. Was sent on a series of ridealongs, which worked wonders in changing my mind about being a cop. Something about pissing all over the Constitution I just couldn’t bring myself to do. It’s no longer about protecting and serving, unless we’re talking protecting the pension and serving the union.


81 posted on 08/12/2014 2:29:10 PM PDT by dware (3 prohibited topics in mixed company: politics, religion and operating systems...)
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To: Sergio
“Why don’t the good cops, turn in the bad cops?”

Eggsactly! Until this happens, they're all bad.

82 posted on 08/12/2014 2:29:56 PM PDT by dware (3 prohibited topics in mixed company: politics, religion and operating systems...)
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To: Kartographer

The problem ends at the state level with “Police De-Paramilitarization” laws. This means that states create a list of weapons, explosives, and equipment that police departments in that state are *allowed* to have. With some variances for special activities, like water rescue.

Any weapons, explosives or equipment that police departments have that is not on the authorized list must be turned over to the state police, for storage in state police facilities.

Part two of the “Police De-Paramilitarization” laws is to forbid police departments in the state from accepting any funding, weapons, explosives or equipment directly from the federal government. This includes advanced communications and identity equipment. So local police do not have immediate access to the massive federal databases of civilian information.

Part three of the “Police De-Paramilitarization” laws is that any information obtained through classified or secret government means, and its derivatives, including anonymous sources, is not admissible in any state criminal court. This thumbs its nose at the federal intelligence apparatus, “Yes, you can spy on everyone, but at the state level, it doesn’t matter.”

Part four is to change state police academy curricula to adjust it to de-paramilitarization. This likely mandates that police use of steroids is a criminal, not an administrative matter, and will be prosecuted.


83 posted on 08/12/2014 2:33:00 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Whoa whoa whoa, you sound like you want the terrorists and drug dealers to win or something.

You’re an American patriots...aren’t you, citizen?

/s


84 posted on 08/12/2014 2:40:19 PM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (It's time to Repeal and Replace the Republican Party)
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To: GeronL

Medford is geographically a great place. There’s lots to do, and the weather is great for all but one month. But anyone with prospects of a better life left for greener economic pastures.

The people who stayed are the dregs, both on the Welfare Roles and in the Police Department.

For example, if you schedule 10 different contractors to come work on your place, only about 4 will ever show up, and none of them at the agreed time. The other 6 will never show up.

I blame both Darwinist selection (the good people leave) and pot.


85 posted on 08/12/2014 2:45:05 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (The GOP-e scum enlisted Democrats to steal the Republican primary. The GOP-e can go to Hell.)
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To: Uncle Miltie

lol


86 posted on 08/12/2014 2:49:54 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: no-to-illegals; Travis McGee
No foreign "peacekeeping" forces in this are, where "BREAKING: FAA Issues Flight Warning Over FERGUSON, MO – Effective Immediately"?
87 posted on 08/12/2014 2:52:17 PM PDT by dware (3 prohibited topics in mixed company: politics, religion and operating systems...)
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To: Sergio

In addition, more need to wear video recording devices and lose pay if those devices are turned off during their shift.


88 posted on 08/12/2014 3:08:29 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; Abundy; albertp; Alexander Rubin; Allosaurs_r_us; amchugh; ...



Libertarian ping! Click here to get added or here to be removed or post a message here!

89 posted on 08/12/2014 3:25:43 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: taxcontrol

When a cop stopped me and told me he was recording the conversation, I was extremely hesitant to hold the conversation. I nearly said, “I want my lawyer now.”

If they’re recording, you are tied down by everything you say. They need to Mirandize you before recording, in my opinion.


90 posted on 08/12/2014 3:31:04 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (The GOP-e scum enlisted Democrats to steal the Republican primary. The GOP-e can go to Hell.)
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To: no-to-illegals

I am surprised the picture didn’t get Shaz-botted... er zotted.


91 posted on 08/12/2014 3:36:33 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: Uncle Miltie

The easy fix is to respond the same way to any question by a law enforcement officer. “I do not answer any questions by law enforcement without the presence of my attorney.”


92 posted on 08/12/2014 3:39:32 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: Uncle Miltie

Thank you for posting those stories.


93 posted on 08/12/2014 3:48:22 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: Yashcheritsiy

This change in police behavior began in earnest in the mid-1970s, with a few high profile random police assassinations in the US. So the federal government encouraged all police to move from the “Old West”-type behavior to the “SWAT”-type behavior.

The most significant effect of this, other than to create a hostility between the public and the police, is that *more* police are being injured and killed, along with *far more* civilians.

But the bottom line is it has taken 35 years to create paramilitarized police forces, so it will be a process to return them to what they should be.

The reform begins at the state level, and parts of it are already happening. What is needed, however, is for states to accept it as a unified concept, a means to restore public confidence in the police, as well as to train the police against behaving like paramilitaries.


94 posted on 08/12/2014 4:10:57 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: RIghtwardHo

Agreed. The Patriot Act is the most egregious theft of personal freedom in our lifetime. The GOP Congress just keeps renewing it.


95 posted on 08/12/2014 4:34:43 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Rodamala

Roflmao


96 posted on 08/12/2014 8:03:06 PM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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To: caww
Indeed, and you have no problem with police discretion in regards to using their munitions, say, by throwing a live grenade into a baby's crib, I suppose?

This, among other crimes, is what you are defending:


97 posted on 08/12/2014 9:24:25 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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