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Newt Gingrich : 2014-07-27 : Bigger than President Obama
Newt Gingrich ^ | 2014-07-27 | Newt Gingrich

Posted on 07/26/2014 6:11:15 AM PDT by Patton@Bastogne

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To: Patton@Bastogne
"Yeah but, . . ."

Doesn't matter whether Newt is at the moment the best man for the job. Doesn't matter if he's 90% of Reagan.

What matters is the search for perfection by Conservatives will keep anyone "good enough" or "ten times better than a RINO" from being elected.

Democrat fascists will trot to victory while millions of Conservatives who will accept nothing less than perfection sit out elections.

21 posted on 07/26/2014 9:04:46 AM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: abclily

The first option is so much more palatable and easy to digest for lazy minds than accepting the latter alternative.


22 posted on 07/26/2014 9:31:14 AM PDT by 353FMG
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To: Patton@Bastogne; Jim Robinson

My mistake. Sorry, Jim.


23 posted on 07/26/2014 9:52:48 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Patton@Bastogne
Newt's “historic” political accomplishments, record and speeches are a far better “source” than what I suspect you have.

I didnt say I wouldn't vote for him.. (Newt)..
A more conniving duplicious POS in Wash D.C. it would hard to find..

I say PAY HIM a couple of billion to expose the democrats and republican cabal's and strip them naked..
PAY HIM.. and give him “protection” himself..

He could do it.. with the moral proclivities of a Wolverine.. or Shrew..
He could easily turn on his “friends” if the price was right..

After he was done.. THEN we could hang him.. and re-neg on his protections....
for being a back stabbing treasonous provocateur..

24 posted on 07/26/2014 10:29:51 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: hosepipe

He wouldnt it for FREE.....


25 posted on 07/26/2014 10:35:51 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: Patton@Bastogne

I’m waiting. You can respond to the data or I’ll repost Newt’s own words here on this thread. Your choice.


26 posted on 07/26/2014 11:02:03 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Islam offers us three choices: Defeat them utterly, die, or surrender to a life of slavery.)
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To: Carry_Okie
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Carry on ...


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27 posted on 07/26/2014 11:44:51 AM PDT by Patton@Bastogne (.)
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To: Patton@Bastogne; AuntB
Fine, I'll spam the front page of your Newt threads with the quotes of his own words until you deal with them, so it will do you no good to fill the sidebar with them. It's a no brainer to have that html on my desktop ready to go.

Newt has been fed information that is only marginally factual or outright false. He needs an education in the principles of land management and free-market environmental management. As it is, unless and until he drops the technical positions he has adopted, he will remain an enemy of freedom and prosperity both for land and sea and the economy.

I would rather see that he gets that education.

28 posted on 07/26/2014 12:07:37 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Islam offers us three choices: Defeat them utterly, die, or surrender to a life of slavery.)
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To: Patton@Bastogne
“When I first ran for Congress I was the natural candidate of most environmental groups…” Newt Gingrich, “Winning The Future,” Page 168

“If the United States challenged Europe and Japan to join it in financing a world biodiversity refuge system and tied foreign aid into the process of maintaining biodiversity, we could probably save a very high percentage of the earth’s biological richness…” Newt Gingrich, “Winning The Future,” Pages 170-171

“As a young professor at West Georgia College, I taught in the second Earth Day in 1971 and coordinated an interdisciplinary environmental studies program.” Newt Gingrich, “Real Change,” Page 196

“That is why I worked so diligently as Speaker of the House to protect the Endangered Species Act, historic legislation that has been mired in controversy…The Endangered Species Act is an excellent example of the value of civility, consultation and collaboration.” Newt Gingrich, “A Contract With The Earth,” Pages XII & 51

“For that reason, we have supported its (the Endangered Species Act’s) continuation against all challenges by private citizens, interest groups, and congressional opponents.” Newt Gingrich, “A Contract With The Earth,” Page 53

“The U.S. government operates endowments for the humanities and the arts…Perhaps, it is time we consider a new endowment for conservation and the environment.” “Newt Gingrich, “A Contract With The Earth,” Pages 115-116 [NOTE: As Speaker, Gingrich told conservatives he wanted to eliminate the wasteful National Endowment for the Arts. Now he cites it as an example of a government spending spree that needs to be duplicated.]

“Significant resources should be set aside to protect hallowed sites such as the Galapagos Islands, the Virguna Volcanoes in Central Africa, and Georgia’s Okenfenokee Swamp, to name a few.” Newt Gingrich, “A Contract With The Earth,” Page 117

Where does that end?

John Muir, for most of his adult life, experienced nature in spiritual overtones…He even favored using the armed forces to enforce environmental law…However, with the inexorable advance of the urban realm, the defense of forested land assumes a greater urgency as we strive to sustain the highest-quality standards for our nation’s air, water, and land.” Newt Gingrich, “A Contract With The Earth,” Page 127

“Our national parks and wildlife reserves require more vigorous protection. With an eye toward strengthening his environmental legacy in the 2007 federal budget, President Bush requested the largest increase for national park funding in our nation’s history. We should expect nothing less than excellence from our national park system.” Newt Gingrich, “A Contract With The Earth,” Pages 130-131

“Far from becoming a new source of global discord, environmentalism, which binds nations to a common concern, will be the best thing that’s ever happened to international relations.” Newt Gingrich, “A Contract With The Earth,” Pages 149-150

“We will need to organize a series of high-level global conferences that focus on specific [environmental] problems…” Newt Gingrich, “A Contract With The Earth,” Page 158

“…the type of arduous research that produces real breakthroughs can only be funded by astute governments.” Newt Gingrich, “A Contract With The Earth,” Page 167

“America used to be that kind of government [that spent millions of tax dollars on “energy research” welfare programs,] but our commitments have wavered in recent years so government incentives for energy research will be issues in future political campaigns.” Newt Gingrich, “A Contract With The Earth,” Page 1 +667

“Mobilizing other countries to join us will not be as easy as it may appear. Many of the countries that signed and ratified the Kyoto Protocol are lagging behind on their commitments.” Newt Gingrich, “A Contract With The Earth,” Page 168

“The act [Endangered Species Act] has been, by any measure, a very successful guardian of wildlife and habitat and any attempt to weaken it should be resisted.” Newt Gingrich, “A Contract With The Earth,” Page 170

“…our children, according to Louv, run the risk of acquiring ‘nature deficit disorder,’ a malady that he describes as a contributing factor to a recognized mental health construct, attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, or ADHD. Nature deficit disorder, not yet acknowledged by scientists or clinicians, is a working hypothesis that Louv believes helps to explain the onset of ADHD, and he proposes that exposure to nature should be offered as a therapy for children who have difficulty attending to stimuli and learning in conventional classrooms. His call for research in this domain is compelling.” Newt Gingrich, “A Contract With The Earth,” Page 182

“Local governments operate much closer to the origin of environmental problems, and they have begun to provide tax incentives and large cash rewards for environmental compliance…While the motivation is driven by the application of tax dollars, the effect is rewarding rather than punitive…” Newt Gingrich, “A Contract With The Earth,” Page 194

“…our government, at all levels, must be modernized to successfully partner, let alone compete, with the private sector.” Newt Gingrich, “A Contract With The Earth,” Page 196

“In spite of the demonstrated liberal leanings in academia, we have nothing but respect for the nation’s scientists. They represent America’s best hope to protect the environment. We support a dramatic increase in science and technology research and development because we desperately need to understand global climate change and other environmental phenomena.” Newt Gingrich, “A Contract With The Earth,” Page 201

“Needless to say, an appropriate and significant investment of public and private funding to renew the earth will pay dividends.” Newt Gingrich, “A Contract With The Earth,” Page 202

29 posted on 07/26/2014 12:12:15 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Islam offers us three choices: Defeat them utterly, die, or surrender to a life of slavery.)
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To: Patton@Bastogne
Newt 2020!

(That's when he's due for his next divorce and marriage)

30 posted on 07/26/2014 12:19:31 PM PDT by x
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To: Carry_Okie
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Don't worry ... you'll get the education that you deserve ...

I'll make sure that the rebuttals to your "off-point" attacks are pre-emptively answered ....

Newt Gingrich has in fact accomplished political victories of a historical nature ...

and continues to do so today.


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31 posted on 07/26/2014 12:25:16 PM PDT by Patton@Bastogne (.)
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To: x
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Such a tedious crowd today, consumed with mendacity ...

Would you have disqualified Ronald Reagan for also being divorced ?

Probably (sigh) ...

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32 posted on 07/26/2014 12:48:31 PM PDT by Patton@Bastogne (.)
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To: Patton@Bastogne
I'll make sure that the rebuttals to your "off-point" attacks are pre-emptively answered ....

So far, you haven't provided a single one.

33 posted on 07/26/2014 1:51:51 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Islam offers us three choices: Defeat them utterly, die, or surrender to a life of slavery.)
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To: Patton@Bastogne
We've had plenty of your type of tactics when Arnold Schwarzenegger was running for the RINOS in the recall election in California. I warned them then, and was proven right.
34 posted on 07/26/2014 1:54:36 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Islam offers us three choices: Defeat them utterly, die, or surrender to a life of slavery.)
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To: Carry_Okie
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Carry_Okie,


I'll get to the rebuttal, know that ...


Meanwhile ... trying not to laugh ... asking if Gov. Jerry "Moonbeam" Brown wrote the foreword ...

You're trying to label Newt Gingrich as an "environmental progressive" ...

when you're the author of this bizarro-world Greenpeace-Sierra Club nonsense/propaganda ?

Your scholarly tome reminds me of a "genuine" nutcase "Johnny M" who lived north of Pineville, Louisiana ...

who called his combination "Blueberry Farm / Bee Haven" as "Noah's Ark" ...

complete with a (very) large sign by the front gate ...

so that the "spiritually unenlighted" would someday find his humble "religious lunacy" a safe haven for when God's Mighty Judgement arrived.

Meanwhile ... the "good friar" Mr. M forced his wife and daughters to work summers in his HOT Louisiana Blueberry fields ... FORCING them to wear long, dark dresses.

Please Sir, reassure us that you're NOT that kind of environmental-spiritual nutcase ...



Shemitta: For the Land is Mine:

Revealed for the first time...

The Sabbath for the Land, ..... As it was meant to be:

..... The Ultimate in Limited Self-Government

An instruction so simple a child could do it, but Biblical scholars have missed it, completely.

A lifestyle common for thousands of years, totally alien to a modern urban public that craves it.

A comprehensive system to assure productive land and national prosperity, yet it has never been done before.

Shemitta weaves together a brilliantly-conceived strategy for national defense, an elegantly simple method to maintain a productive environment, and a tragically-unrecognized socio-economic design - to maximize total economic productivity, establish justice, and preserve a united people...



You commented ...

We've had plenty of your type of tactics when Arnold Schwarzenegger was running for the RINOS in the recall election in California


Does the "we" refer to you and Gov. Moonbeam ...

or just your Whole Earth granola-buddies over at Greenpeace and the Sierra-Club ?




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35 posted on 07/26/2014 6:53:02 PM PDT by Patton@Bastogne (.)
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To: Patton@Bastogne; SierraWasp
You're trying to label Newt Gingrich as an "environmental progressive" ...

Newt did that by writing posiitions advocating environmental progressivism. I didn't. He's the one sitting with Nancy Pelosi on a couch. Not me.

You're not doing so hot.

when you're the author of this bizarro-world Greenpeace-Sierra Club nonsense/propaganda ?

A baseless spin job won't cut it for citation. I propose a free-market system with which to eliminate the need for regulatory bureaucracy and you rail. I guess you must prefer the unconstitutional fascist system Newt does.

Your scholarly tome reminds me of a "genuine" nutcase "Johnny M" who lived north of Pineville, Louisiana ...

You chose to ignore the the reviews. One of those is Senator Malcolm Wallop (Dick Cheney's mentor). His review is here. He was neither a goofball nor a liberal. One of the others is a long standing FReeper here. I have a long record on FR of conservatism. So you are going to lose with that game.

Re Shemitta: Please Sir, reassure us that you're NOT that kind of environmental-spiritual nutcase ...

It was what I said it was and more. In fact, I am often offered the criticism that I reduce the Torah to mechanism instead of spirituality. It is the opposite of what you baselessly imply. So, you are attacking the Biblical a scholarly exposition on the national defense, social welfare, and environmental management systems found in the Torah that were built entirely upon voluntary and individual action forming up a national militia without a king as something other than conservative? On FR?? Really???

Does the "we" refer to you and Gov. Moonbeam ...

Oh, so you didn't research that either? I see. Well no, the "we" were the backers of Tom McClintock, the conservative in the recall election. I guess you were a fan of the Grovelator. See tag line; I've had it for years.

or just your Whole Earth granola-buddies over at Greenpeace and the Sierra-Club ?

For fourteen years on FR, I have held that the Sierra Club and Greenpeace were the crooked tools of tax-exempt corporate foundations whose directors belong in jail. You even ignored on the page you "researched" blowing the Sierra Club Fire Policy out of the water on technical grounds.

I guess you're still full of crap to fling, but you've not refuted a single citation to Newt Gingrich's own words in print. I suggest you go back to your handlers and tell them you've got a problem. Maybe Newt wants to learn something from one of the peons he's taken for granted. It's high time he did.

36 posted on 07/27/2014 7:29:59 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Grovelnator Shwarzenkaiser: fasionable fascism one charade at a time.)
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To: Carry_Okie
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He's the one sitting with Nancy Pelosi on a couch. Not me.


I hope that your "environmental wacko book" didn't contain such factual errors, as you're suggesting above.


Go back and read Post # 11 ... for the "complete story" on the "Gingrich-Pelosi 2008 Global Warming Conversation on the Sofa" photo ...


So ... exactly what kind of an "engineer" are you, anyway ?


Jeesh ...


One more guess ....

You're the author (with the copyright) on the infamous ...

Google Ron Paul !
Google Ron Paul !
Google Ron Paul !
Google Ron Paul !
Google Ron Paul !
Google Ron Paul !
Google Ron Paul !


campaign signs.


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37 posted on 07/27/2014 7:43:27 AM PDT by Patton@Bastogne (.)
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To: Patton@Bastogne
I hope that your "environmental wacko book" didn't contain such factual errors, as you're suggesting above.

He let himself be used for that and did support action against the bogus claims of anthropogenic climate change. Your spin does nothing to correct the record. He wrote his book and you've done NOTHING to refute a single charge. Instead, and because you've got nothing, you attack me with totally unsupported charges.

In other words, your attacks are typical of a Marxist. Is that what you are? Two can play that game.

So ... exactly what kind of an "engineer" are you, anyway?

Engineering systems, Harvey Mudd College. I have patents for products made on process equipment I designed and for which I built the prototypes. They were installed in multiple countries, in which I had to obtain environmental permits. I was the designer, builder, and project manager working side-by-side with millwrights, mechanics, and electricians. The first process saved the company with a new product made in a chemical plant we introduced in but ten months, including qualification with the FDA and the BAAQMD. The second patented product they failed to adopt in time because it was so innovative it scared them, and the company died as I predicted it would if they didn't.

You have accomplished nothing so far but using excess space on the page, and no, I'm no devotee of Ron or Rand Paul. You can learn more about my positions here. I am an innovator, not an ideologue like Newt. He's talented, but he has a lot to learn.

38 posted on 07/27/2014 8:02:00 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Grovelnator Shwarzenkaiser: fasionable fascism one charade at a time.)
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To: Carry_Okie; Anybody; Everybody; All
Somebody in this exercise in futilite arguing is oblivious to the obvious and it certainly insn't you, Carry_Okie!!!

The person buzzing around your accurate and truthful postings and writings with excrement still dripping from their many landings on cow pies, should probably remember what people arguing in New York City bars are prone to say… "And you can look it up!"

The Knute is an even worse "political opportunist" than Schwartzenrennegger since he's been doing it his whole adult life. He's about as good at it as he would be at starring in "action movies" on the big screen! He is the epitome of "GANG-GREEN!!!"

Yup! I'll vouch for you as being one of the most consistent and honest conservatives I've ever encountered in either public or private life. At times I've had some initial trouble digesting your concepts and ideas, but in the end they have won me over as tremendously enlightened and rock-solid in conservative principles!

Gingrich, by contrast is all over the place, constantly venturing outside the common sense arena of real conservatism. Proclaiming grandios schemes designed to make "GANG-GREEN," GovernMental EnvironMental and all the collective communists in the so-called "Not-For-Profit" (but for huge salaries and expense accounts with low taxes) crowd swoon over what he hopes they will consider some kind of "enlightened" conservative they might be able to support… Phhhhhht!!!

Anyone can look at your record my good FRiend and clearly see there is absolutely nothing to argue about here!!!

39 posted on 07/27/2014 11:29:16 AM PDT by SierraWasp (Obama is mad! He's getting madder with each crisis and now he's a real MADMAN with no temper left!!!)
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To: SierraWasp; calcowgirl; snopercod; Dog Gone
I note that it used to be that there was a collection of FReepers to whom I could post such a comment, but that the number has dwindled. I especially miss calcowgirl, snopercod, Dog Gone, and such. The problem is that posters used to do their homework here, but seldom any more. They just rant and run.

I truly meant it that I would like to educate Mr. Gingrich, but I think him so craven that it is unlikely he would pay attention for long enough to get it.

40 posted on 07/27/2014 12:09:31 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Grovelnator Shwarzenkaiser: fasionable fascism one charade at a time.)
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