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To: kabar
I am not delusional.

No, and I didn't say that you were, but many Obama voters are, and now disillusioned as well, after seeing his policies in action for the last five and a half years. Obama won't be on the ballot in 2016, and there probably won't be another Black candidate, so I don't believe 2008 and 2012 set an irreversible trend.

Where did I say, "it's impossible to win again unless we stop all immigration (legal and illegal)".

I had a question mark behind that, because you cited stats for legal and illegal immigrants as if both are the problem. It sounded like you were saying we need to stop all immigration, otherwise everyone we let in will vote for the Democrats, or something. I understand you better now.

Becoming the Party of Work: How the GOP can help struggling Americans, and itself. - "Perhaps the most important political development now unfolding in the U.S. is the public’s growing loss of faith in our political and financial elites of both parties."

I agree with that message. But, I too have lost all but a thread of faith in politicians on either side of the isle, as have many of my associates, on the left and right.

35 posted on 07/27/2014 1:29:58 PM PDT by NaturalBornConservative ("Something that everyone knows isn't worth knowing" ~ Bernard Baruch)
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To: NaturalBornConservative
No, and I didn't say that you were, but many Obama voters are, and now disillusioned as well, after seeing his policies in action for the last five and a half years. Obama won't be on the ballot in 2016, and there probably won't be another Black candidate, so I don't believe 2008 and 2012 set an irreversible trend.

Obama rode the demographic change. It really won't matter if the next candidate is Black or not. The Dems are gaining the upper hand demographically. They are becoming the permanent majority party. As I indicated previously, what state in 2012 that Obama won will Hillary or a Dem lose in 2016? Hillary will be another historic President, our first woman President.

I had a question mark behind that, because you cited stats for legal and illegal immigrants as if both are the problem. It sounded like you were saying we need to stop all immigration, otherwise everyone we let in will vote for the Democrats, or something. I understand you better now.

We need to reduce legal immigration substantially. We are importing poverty and surplus labor. Our immigration needs must have some correlation with our job and skill requirements. That is not the case now.

I provided you with multiple links and charts. Did you even bother to look at them?

I agree with that message. But, I too have lost all but a thread of faith in politicians on either side of the isle, as have many of my associates, on the left and right.

We have two wings of the same party. There is a serious disconnect between our political and corporate elites and the people. Sessions is making a case for the Reps to ditch the corporate elites and direct their efforts to the American worker who has been abandoned by both parties.

36 posted on 07/27/2014 2:11:02 PM PDT by kabar
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