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Legal Experts: National Marriage Equality Could Happen Within A Year
Talking Points Memo ^ | July 9, 2014 | Sahil Kapur

Posted on 07/09/2014 8:19:48 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Suddenly it's a possibility that experts are contemplating: marriage equality could be the law of the land all across the United States within one year.

On Wednesday, Utah asked the Supreme Court to resolve its dispute with the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals which two weeks ago became the first U.S. circuit court to declare that same-sex couples have a constitutional right to marry.

Legal experts say the Supreme Court is likely to accept the case. With lawsuits piling up, and gay marriage on an undefeated legal streak since the Court axed the Defense of Marriage Act in 2013, the justices may plausibly hear the case in next term and decide it by June 2015.

"I think the Court will take the case. Since [U.S. v.] Windsor, all of the lower courts that have ruled have struck down laws prohibiting same sex marriages," said Erwin Chemerinsky, the Dean of the University of California, Irvine School of Law. "Perhaps without a split in the lower courts, the Supreme Court will wait. My prediction, though, is that the Court knows the issue needs to be resolved and will take it."

And if the Court does hear the case, all eyes will be on Justice Anthony Kennedy, not simply because he's the traditional swing vote, but because he has written all three decisions in Supreme Court history that advanced gay rights.

"I also predict that the five justices in the majority in Windsor will be the majority to declare unconstitutional laws that deny marriage equality to gays and lesbians," Chemerinsky said.

Jonathan Adler, a professor at Case Western Reserve University School of Law who's respected by conservative legal luminaries, also suggested Kennedy may continue his gay rights streak.

"I would think the Court is likely to take a case in the Fall, though they may wait to see if a real split emerges. Whenever they do take such a case I would not be surprised to see Kennedy cast the deciding vote in favor of gay marriage," Adler said in an email.

In the DOMA case, Kennedy said the federal government may not deny equal benefits to married same-sex couples but didn't address the question of whether state bans on gay marriage were constitutional. Lower court judges widely cited the reasoning in Kennedy's decision, concluding that laws against marriage equality -- like DOMA -- are motivated by a desire to harm gays and lesbians and thus impermissible under the Constitution's equal protection clause.

The Supreme Court typically resolves national disputes on major issues, especially when the lower courts split. In this case, there may not be a split; if so the Court could choose to wait, experts said. But eventually the widespread view among court watchers is that the lawsuits will keep coming and, in order to avoid chaos and confusion while rulings are on hold pending appeal, the Supreme Court will opt to settle the matter.

Currently 31 states prohibit same-sex marriage, a number that has been dropping.

At least four justices have to vote to take a case in order for the Supreme Court to do so, which could happen as early as this fall.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Local News; Religion
KEYWORDS: gaymarriage; homosexualagenda; homosexualmarriage; samesexmarriage; scotus; supremecourt; utah
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1 posted on 07/09/2014 8:19:48 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Here comes fecal marriage, courtesy of the kritarchy!
2 posted on 07/09/2014 8:23:36 PM PDT by Viennacon (Rebuke the Repuke!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m calling B.S. on the article’s title - it’s not marriage equality. It’s special rights.

If homos wanna create a right to marry each other, they can amend the Constitution to say so.


3 posted on 07/09/2014 8:23:56 PM PDT by MarkRegal05
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The American people may not understand what they have done, but they voted for this policy over various election cycles even when they rejected specific referenda on the issue. I also believe that a clear majority favors this policy.


4 posted on 07/09/2014 8:25:25 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Once there’s a liberal majority on the SCOTUS, all conscience provisions for churches will disappear and all churches will be required to perform SSMs, or be sued out of existence. (Muslims will get the usual waiver of course).


5 posted on 07/09/2014 8:28:00 PM PDT by denydenydeny (Admiration of absolute government is proportionate to the contempt one has for others.-Tocquevillea)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Isn’t it FABULOUS!!!! Little Sally and Billy will never have a mother (or father if their “parents” are lesbians). How great is that?! /s


6 posted on 07/09/2014 8:28:31 PM PDT by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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To: MarkRegal05

Simply abolish the income tax deduction for partners and dependents.


7 posted on 07/09/2014 8:30:11 PM PDT by CMB_polarization
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Woe unto them that decree unrighteous decrees, and that write grievousness which they have prescribed; / To turn aside the needy from judgment, and to take away the right from the poor of my people, that widows may be their prey, and that they may rob the fatherless! / And what will ye do in the day of visitation, and in the desolation which shall come from far? to whom will ye flee for help? and where will ye leave your glory? / Without me they shall bow down under the prisoners, and they shall fall under the slain. For all this his anger is not turned away, but his hand is stretched out still.

— Isaiah 10:1-4
This is what these activist judges that ram this down the country’s throat are in for.
8 posted on 07/09/2014 8:33:26 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

America crosses this line, embracing such depravity and evil, there will truly be no country that I see left worth fighting for. No reason to be ‘invested’ in any way towards its future, its well-being, its very existence.

I’ll be supporting secession 100% at that point.


9 posted on 07/09/2014 8:38:45 PM PDT by greene66
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Homosexuals cannot consummate their “marriages”, because what they call sex involves the digestive system.


10 posted on 07/09/2014 8:39:53 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Conservatism is the political disposition of grown-ups.)
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To: MarkRegal05

There are clearly five votes on the court in favor of homosexual marriage. Its just a matter of time.


11 posted on 07/09/2014 8:48:29 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (s)
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To: MarkRegal05; All
Yes it could happen. This is because activist justices can lie about the constitutionality of same-sex marriage just like they lied about the constitutionality of Obamacare Democratcare.

But it remains that, regardless of pro-gay interpretations of the Equal Protections Clause of the 14th Amendment (14A) by institutionally indoctrinated judges, the states have never amended the Constitution to expressly protect so-called gay rights. And both the Supreme Court and John Bingham, the main author of Section 1 of 14A, had officially clarified that 14A applies only constitutionally enumerated protections to the states.

So it would take an amendment to the Constitution to protect gay "rights" like gay marriage.

12 posted on 07/09/2014 8:49:56 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: BuckeyeTexan
SCOTUS ping.

For what it's worth, I agree with the article's predictions-- the Court will almost certainly grant cert. this year, and I'd personally bet even money (but no more than that) on a 5-4 decision in favor of gay marriage.

13 posted on 07/09/2014 8:55:53 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Oh, I believe it. I have a homo relative who is already gloating/spiking the ball, claiming that he and his “partner of eight years” will be taking off from work for the last week of June 2015 (which I think is the soonest we’ll see a ruling). They’ll be the freaks on TV at city hall..

Thank God I only see them at weddings/funerals.


14 posted on 07/09/2014 9:00:19 PM PDT by MarkRegal05
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Don’t blame the gays and lesbians. Blame the straight people who support gay marriage. Disavow friends and disown family. It’s time to pick a side.


15 posted on 07/09/2014 9:37:26 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (Liberals were raised by women or wimps.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It isn’t equality.


16 posted on 07/09/2014 9:45:53 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Amendment10

Unfortunately, both of those quotes refer to the “privileges and immunities” clause, not the “equal protection” clause. So, they don’t necessarily constrain judges from ruling for same-sex marriage on “equal protection” grounds.

Not that it matters - a judge who wants to rule in favor of same-sex marriage will find a way to do it, regardless of the history and Constitutional language.


17 posted on 07/10/2014 8:54:54 AM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Lurking Libertarian

I’m thinking it will be 6-3, with Roberts joining Kennedy and the Liberal wing.

The question now for me is how Conservatives manage the aftermath of such a decision. The Left has clearly laid out their intent to position Conservatives as the new version of the Klan. Do we respond by refusing to accept and continuing to actively fight legal gay marriage, or do we transition to protecting the rights of those who oppose it on moral grounds (Christian bakers, photographers) to live their beliefs.


18 posted on 07/10/2014 9:07:16 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: MarkRegal05

“If homos wanna create a right to marry each other, they can amend the Constitution to say so.”

One of two of these processes need to take place prior to the start of the next term of the SCOTUS.

1. Amend the US Constitution to state that marriage can only be between a man and a woman.

2. Impeach Obama and Biden, and then impeach the four or five pro gay marriage members of the SCOTUS and replace them with Christian Pro Family Conservatives.


19 posted on 07/10/2014 11:56:23 AM PDT by Oliviaforever
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To: VerySadAmerican
Disavow friends and disown family.

Don't agree, even if I thought it would accomplish something. I suggest boycotting, to the best of our ability, the companies that support this. Here is the HRC buyer's guide, so you know who to patronize and who to avoid.

Hit them where it hurts, in the wallet.

20 posted on 07/10/2014 4:01:28 PM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (See my home page for some of my answers to the left's talking points.)
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