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Veteran Stopped for No Front License Plate, Beat to Death by 5 Cops
DC Clothesline ^ | May 19, 2014 | Dean Garrison

Posted on 05/19/2014 4:37:00 PM PDT by eccentric

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To: Gene Eric

At the time, I assumed we had some bad cops and we were going to see some righteous busting of cops, from what we were hearing, but then I watched some of the blow by blow video in slow motion on some cable station, and realized that it wasn’t what it had initially looked like, and what the media was making it out to be.

It wasn’t just a beat down, which do happen with some frequency, I guess you saw post 10, I have many stories from around the country, but most are from my hometown of Houston, beatings by cops were pretty routine.


121 posted on 05/19/2014 9:12:31 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: null and void
"Most cops are good and decent people, the full glare of sunlight, which is a powerful disinfectant, needs to be shown on the bad ones."

I've always wondered why "the good cops" rarely seem to get around to turning out the bad ones in their midst. They absolutely know who they are... maybe they just like the company of the bad ones.

122 posted on 05/19/2014 9:14:35 PM PDT by Flag_This (Liberalism: Kills countries dead.)
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To: ansel12

The People. Or sheep as your analogy says. But your analogy falls short because in the real world The People will attempt to pierce the blue wall of silence and hold you accountable. We will hang cameras around your necks. We will vote against your bond issues and against the sales taxes that fund you. We will work feverishly to end the practice of property seizure with the thin veneer of due process. We will de-fund city hall, county government, States and Fed. That is the right thing to do. That is the CONSERVATIVE thing to do. When conservatives say they want small government, that’s what it means. Small, lean, accountable. No trading sex for losing tickets. No shooting dogs. No letting LEO, judges, politicians off the hook for laws they pass and enforce.

No more business as usual for city hall or crooked politicians. That’s Conservative. No more nanny state empowerment for State sponsored extortion in the futile bid for safety. Small government, underfunded, weak and frustrated. The sheep can defend and depend on themselves if the onerous burden of government is removed. That is Conservative.


123 posted on 05/19/2014 9:17:07 PM PDT by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept? Vive Deco et Vives)
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To: Flag_This

Peer pressure, thin blue line, us against them mentality, and no one but no one wants to be the first penguin off the ice floe.

When the dam finally breaks there are going to be a lot of freshly unemployed (and often incarcerated) ex cops. And the remaining cops will be more like the ones we remember from our youth.


124 posted on 05/19/2014 9:19:31 PM PDT by null and void (When was the last time you heard anyone say: "It's a free country"?)
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To: null and void
"Peer pressure, thin blue line, us against them mentality, and no one but no one wants to be the first penguin off the ice floe."

I understand, but the good ones can't then complain when the stench starts to stick them.

125 posted on 05/19/2014 9:34:07 PM PDT by Flag_This (Liberalism: Kills countries dead.)
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To: Flag_This
I've always wondered why "the good cops" rarely seem to get around to turning out the bad ones in their midst.

That proves how rare they are, they barely exist.

126 posted on 05/19/2014 9:38:23 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: Flag_This

It will probably take that before they are forced to clean house.

Human nature.


127 posted on 05/19/2014 9:39:45 PM PDT by null and void (When was the last time you heard anyone say: "It's a free country"?)
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To: ansel12

Nonsense. The majority are still decent.


128 posted on 05/19/2014 9:43:02 PM PDT by null and void (When was the last time you heard anyone say: "It's a free country"?)
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To: 353FMG
But will all that change if the Pubbies were to take over or will it remain business as usual?

It ratchets up, never down. Putting in Pubbies once in a while is supposed to put a nice face on the slow walk to totaliarianism.

The conservative then breathes a sigh of relief and thinks he's ok for the time being.

In reality, the elected Pubbies just work on encroaching totalitarianism from a different angle.

Both R's and D's all work for the financial elites.
129 posted on 05/19/2014 9:47:04 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: null and void

I don’t know what you call decent, but they are part of the crimes that they conceal.


130 posted on 05/19/2014 9:47:51 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: eccentric

Here’s a bit more from another article:

IMPERIAL — An employee of a convenience store near the site of a traffic stop, after which an Imperial man died Sunday, said she saw the incident from start to finish, describing the deceased as “mad” and uncooperative but also described law enforcement reaction as “too much.”

http://www.ivpressonline.com/news/local/chp-investigating-in-custody-death/article_19042c71-095d-504a-a83b-eb28313d3824.html


131 posted on 05/19/2014 9:56:22 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: ansel12

The facts usually surface given there’s no media agenda to suppress them. But regarding King, the media got its riot, and many innocent people suffered for it.

Terrible story in #10.


132 posted on 05/20/2014 12:19:45 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: ansel12
You are right, about the Rodney King case. The media did America and LA a disservice by twisting the story.

It is just one of the things that helps create an us vs. them mentality for the police. People don't trust the police (for good reason, by many press accounts) which exacerbates hostility toward people seen as hassling them for revenue (not to mention the seizure of items and effects during vehicle searches without charges levies, which smacks of looting under color of law).

There is a strong and developing sense that rules are applied unevenly, and not just along racial lines, and the media foment the latter resentments in the population in general, where they can.

Without 'beat cops' on foot, getting to know the people and the area--and be known, police have become another faceless uniform not to be trusted in the public mind.

Worse yet, they see shows like 'Cops', and what once was respect degenerates to fear and animosity.

On the other side, the police often see the worst of the worst of our society, and that colors their worldview, too.

With increased militarization comes less respect for the Constitutional Rights of the people the police serve, and a greater tendency toward lethal force, even administered by allegedly non-lethal means.

I can't recall the last time I saw a police show on TV where the policeman was someone's friend, saved their life (with one exception of officers getting a guy out of a burning car), or wasn't a harbinger of bad tidings. Right down to the storm of media accounts of shot dogs, the public has a bad view of those they once respected as protectors of the people, and has come to view them as oppressors. Even without 'roid rage', that hostility becomes mutual.

When all you do wrong, and little you do right gets to the public eye, you might get an attitude, too. (NOT excusing it, just trying to figure it out.) In the end, we need to return a sense of Honor, not only to police ranks where it is lacking, but to the public view of the police. For the latter, that will require police acting honorably, and cleansing their ranks of those who violate the public trust and do not so conduct themselves. Eliminate the impression that a police officer can perform acts behind the badge without punishment that would get people on the other side of the tin jail time, and that would go a long way to restoring good faith.

133 posted on 05/20/2014 5:06:21 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: eccentric
Officers claim Yancy swung at an officer and attacked the K-9

They probably should have killed his family and friends, too. You don't want to take any chances...

134 posted on 05/20/2014 5:36:21 AM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: null and void

Guess you’re in dutch now, null...


135 posted on 05/20/2014 5:50:23 AM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: null and void
Tell ya what, prove to me that none of these stories was reported.

De Nile ain't just a river in the Netherlands...

136 posted on 05/20/2014 5:55:22 AM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: null and void

I’m glad to see you can disagree with someone without resorting to idiotic name calling. /sarcasm


137 posted on 05/20/2014 6:15:15 AM PDT by MortMan (Avoid temporary variables and strange women.)
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To: eccentric
The CHP has actively resisted dashcams for decades.
138 posted on 05/20/2014 6:34:11 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: MortMan

It’s a talent...


139 posted on 05/20/2014 7:31:58 AM PDT by null and void (When was the last time you heard anyone say: "It's a free country"?)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Another symptom of the modern police, is that they are union, and they are part of a union coalition that has taken over the political power of cities, with the goal of looting the money of the citizens of that city, for lavish pensions, and short work careers and high pay, and disability, making their own work conditions etc.

The police are off the leash, they and the teachers, city workers, firemen, lifeguards and all related unions, and the democrat party, are literally taking over cities as their own cash cows.

I think the police have morphed into something that cops of 80 years ago would not recognize now if not for the uniforms.

Cops aren’t there to preserve the community, and reflect the community, or even to protect the community they are largely out of our control, and the more generations that continues, the more morally corrupt and insular the departments become, and the more hiring and promotions, reflect it and reinforce it.

Even not discussing police work, many of us in big cities recognize that the unionized police and the other city employees, voting as a massive block, are dominating city elections, and practically appointing city government, and then looting the coffers and becoming even more independent and renegade.


140 posted on 05/20/2014 8:30:57 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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