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Weep for California
Chronicles Magazine ^
| May 10, 2014
| Clyde Wilson
Posted on 05/13/2014 2:04:34 PM PDT by Pelham
California, once the American Mecca of milk and honey, has fallen on hard times. Though its degradation and decline are largely self-inflicted, Californias condition is nonetheless an American tragedy and a dire portent for the rest of us.
The state is fast becoming a colony and milk cow for Mexico, with a few enclaves occupied by Asians the way the British used to dominate Hong Kong and Singapore. Public spending and debt have reached catastrophic levels unmanageable by a society of self-centered individuals and interest groups. Gang warfare dominates the urban jungle. The state doubtless leads the Union in foreigners, perverts, dopesters, and aborted children. Hollywood, once a source of pleasant diversions, now pollutes not only the U.S. but the entire world with pornography, nihilistic violence, and, what is worse, bad taste. The Terminator and various other flakes have been elected governor. Productive citizens are fleeing east and north by the thousands. If illegal aliens are not counted California is losing population for the first time in a century and a half of American settlement.
However, not to worry. The California legislature has voted unanimously (ONE dissenting vote) to ban the Confederate flag! They have taken a stand on the major issue of the age, valiantly attacking a looming threat to human progress. (Though apparently the Hammer & Sickle, the Swastika, and Che Guevara and Black Power fists are still welcome).
We Southerners are blessedly free of the characteristic American passion for minding other peoples business. I usually dont care what California is up to, although, of course, the evil of its massive power in Congress and presidential elections threatens me and everything I hold dear. And its fountain of moral and cultural depravity seems inescapable.
The Powers That Be in the lost commonwealth on the Pacific assure us that
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To: Yaelle
How sad! California is a beautiful state with a beautiful climate, and the Dems have ruined it in less than thirty years.
And how sad it is that you have to be driven out due to their stupidity.
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posted on
05/13/2014 2:44:45 PM PDT
by
exit82
("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
To: Yaelle
You want to go to Colo-fornia now?
out of the frying pan...
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posted on
05/13/2014 2:44:54 PM PDT
by
GeronL
(Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
To: Pelham
The California legislature has voted unanimously (ONE dissenting vote) to ban the Confederate flag!Actually, they banned only the State government from selling Confederate flags. (Apparently, the gift shop at some State park was selling Confederate flags and someone complained.)
To: Yaelle
” and there are more and more home invasions in paradise.”
LA County?
These home invasions are just some of the Wealth of Diversity of the new, improved California.
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posted on
05/13/2014 2:46:10 PM PDT
by
Pelham
(If you do not deport it is amnesty by default.)
To: Pelham
I found this:
California Assembly Moves To Ban Sale Or Display Of Confederate Flag
1, May 6, 2014 by jonathanturley
The California state assembly has passed a new law that will be prohibit the selling or displaying items with an image of the Confederate flag. We have previously discussed the disciplining of students and others over the display of this flag as protected speech. In the same way, this bill raises serious constitutional questions and could trigger a court fight.
Assemblyman Isadore Hall, D-Compton secured a 72-1 vote in favor of the new law. It would not prohibit the display in educational or museum settings. However, it would prevent people from displaying the flag on state property which would presumably include parks. Hall said that he took the action after his mother saw replica Confederate money being sold at the state Capitol gift shop.
The amended bill is quite vague on key terms. It states:
SECTION 1. Section 53.5 is added to the Civil Code, to read:
53.5. (a) The State of California may not sell or display the Battle Flag of the Confederacy, also referred to as the Stars and Bars, or any similar image, or tangible personal property inscribed with such an image unless the image appears in a book that serves an educational or historical purpose.
(b) For purposes of this section, sell means to transfer title or possession, exchange, or barter, conditional or otherwise, in any manner or by any means whatsoever, for consideration. Transfer possession includes only transactions that would be found by the State Board of Equalization, for purposes of the Sales and Use Tax Law, to be in lieu of a transfer of title, exchange, or barter.
This removes problematic language in the original version but leaves a lot of questions. Here is the original language:
THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA DO ENACT AS FOLLOWS:
SECTION 1. Section 53.5 is added to the Civil Code, to read:
53.5. (a) A person The State of California may not sell a Confederate flag or display the Battle Flag of the Confederacy, also referred to as the Stars and Bars, or any similar image, or tangible personal property inscribed with the such an image of a Confederate flag on property owned or operated by the state unless the image appears in a book that serves an educational or historical purpose.
(b) For purposes of this section, all of the following apply:
(1)Person means any individual, partnership, firm, joint stock company, corporation, limited liability company, association, trust, estate, or other legal entity.
(2)Sell section, sell means to transfer title or possession, exchange, or barter, conditional or otherwise, in any manner or by any means whatsoever, for consideration. Transfer possession includes only transactions that would be found by the State Board of Equalization, for purposes of the Sales and Use Tax Law, to be in lieu of a transfer of title, exchange, or barter.
Hall insisted that the flag is a symbol of racism that should not be allowed to be displayed. The Southern flag is clearly insulting to many people due to its historical associations. However, it is also a simple of Southern heritage and sacrifice. Robert E. Lee himself identified with the flag while rejoicing in the end of slavery. He stated:
In this enlightened age, there are few I believe, but what will acknowledge, that slavery as an institution, is a moral & political evil in any Country.
So far from engaging in a war to perpetuate slavery, I am rejoiced that slavery is abolished. I believe it will be greatly for the interests of the South. So fully am I satisfied of this, as regards Virginia especially, that I would cheerfully have lost all I have lost by the war, and have suffered all I have suffered, to have this object attained.
Respected scholars like Civil War historian Shelby Foote have noted that the flag traditionally represented the Souths resistance to Northern political dominance. As discussing in PBS interview, he was sensitive to how many of his friends viewed it as a symbol of racism but he did not share that view. Others view it as a symbol of states rights or Southern culture or opposition to speech codes or politically correct sentiments. The point is that, if some flags are allowed, there are a variety of symbols that are viewed as offensive by different groups.
So the question is what happens when people want to display this symbol while others are displaying other flags viewed negatively by other groups from Free Tibet to the PLO to Israel to China. It sounds a lot like content-based censorship.
The bill was amended to exclude non-government employees and businesses from the ban to address some of these concerns. It would also not ban the display for educational or historical reasons in textbooks. To the extent that it only affects government speech, the state is on stronger ground to be sure, but I am still unclear on the wide array of displays organized by the government with citizens or groups. Even with the wise exclusions, there would appear a myriad of circumstances where state employees would be presented with a conflict in barring the display not just on a flag but in other forms containing this symbol. Those specific conflicts could present an interesting challenge to the new law.
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posted on
05/13/2014 2:59:21 PM PDT
by
Rio
(Proud resident of the State of Jefferson)
To: Pelham
I would, but...
Seems it never rains in Southern California.
Seems I’ve often heard that kind of talk before.
It never rains in California,
But girl, don’t they warn you.
It pours.....man it pours.
Out of work
I’m outta my head
Outta self respect
I’m outta bread.
I’m under loved
I’m over taxed
I wanna go home!
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posted on
05/13/2014 2:59:56 PM PDT
by
blueunicorn6
("A crack shot and a good dancer")
To: Pelham
Screw 'em. I'm not leaving.
California, still home to Free Republic...
A lot of people want to leave, but where are they going to make a stand? Everywhere you can go has been infested with either aliens or democrats. Nevada is pretty conservative overall but that's where Harry Reid hatched.
If you have to move come to the foothills.
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posted on
05/13/2014 3:03:47 PM PDT
by
eldoradude
(How many democrats does it take to change a light bulb?)
To: Yaelle
Any freepers in denver?
East Tenn. is generally conservative,
politics are usually laissez faire
and the TVA lakes are wonderful
Lots of water here, moderate weather
Oak Ridge is a high tech enclave
home of Oak Ridge National Labs
http://www.ornl.gov/
Regional Dept. of Energy site
http://science.energy.gov/isc/
Not to mention Dolly Parton,
the Smokies,
and Great Country Music
To: Pelham
My oldest...moved back to OK...from CA.
Could not be happier about that!!!
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posted on
05/13/2014 3:13:19 PM PDT
by
Osage Orange
(I have strong feelings about gun control. If there's a gun around, I want to be controlling it.)
To: Pelham
The bill originally banned all sales of Confederate flag memorabilia on state property. In explaining that provision, Hall noted a sign sold at the state fairgrounds depicting a Confederate flag with the phrase Its still my American flag.
He amended the bill to exclude non-government employees and businesses from the ban to avoid violating constitutional free speech protections.
Courts have upheld the rights of individuals to display the Confederate flag while also upholding the rights of government agencies to limit what they endorse.
http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2014/05/05/state-bill-banning-sale-of-confederate-flag-passes/
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posted on
05/13/2014 5:38:39 PM PDT
by
blueplum
To: HangnJudge
Funny you should say TN. We went earlier this year to check out Nashville. We need a city and we need hockey and various services and opportunities for kids. Two of us loved it and one of us hated it. I have a total infatuation with Nashville now. And I am not a country music fan.
But our next city to check out is Denver. I know it’s not conservative but neither is L.A.
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posted on
05/13/2014 11:14:53 PM PDT
by
Yaelle
To: Pelham
Though its degradation and decline are largely self-inflicted...Largely? Only about 100% or so.
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posted on
05/13/2014 11:48:53 PM PDT
by
uglybiker
(nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-BATMAN!)
To: Yaelle
Raleigh, NC would be a possibility.
To: eldoradude
Ditto the “Screw’em. I’m not leaving.”
I refuse to turn-tail and run. This state is beautiful! Has the best weather. (And this is coming from someone who lived in Hawaii and Texas)
Americans shouldn’t run from bullies. We stay and fight.
There are many good conservatives in this state, contrary to popular opinion on FR.
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posted on
05/14/2014 12:06:11 AM PDT
by
Aurorales
(I will not be ridiculed into silence!)
To: Pelham
Wouldn’t waste a single tear for them. Self-inflicted.
To: Lurking Libertarian
Why should the number of illegals count?
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posted on
05/16/2014 8:13:02 PM PDT
by
Impy
(RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
To: Impy
Because the Constitution says so.
To: Lurking Libertarian; fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; BillyBoy; sickoflibs; Spirochete; yongin; ...
Your very literal interpretation of the phrase “the whole number of persons” aside, it makes very little sense to count foreign nationals toward congressional representation, would you go to the hotels and count foreign tourists as well? I doubt the founders intended that.
In any case it needs to stop, we can’t have states like Cali getting more seats than they’re entitled to.
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posted on
05/16/2014 9:26:12 PM PDT
by
Impy
(RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
To: A CA Guy
If I stopped paying my bills I would have extra money also.
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posted on
05/16/2014 9:26:28 PM PDT
by
MaxMax
(Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
To: Impy
if we’re going to count undocumented illegals, then why stop them from voting? oh wait. san fran allows ‘qualified’ illegals to vote in some city elections. we really should have cut funding to cities that provide sanctuary to illegals.
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posted on
05/17/2014 5:25:38 AM PDT
by
yongin
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