Posted on 04/23/2014 1:13:34 PM PDT by servo1969
For every union contract, there are two signing parties. Teacher and police contracts are agreements signed by both the city officials and the union officials. No one ever bitches about the other side of the agreement. Instead, all the complaints go directly to the cop or the teacher.
Teachers are especially fair game this time of year because many people can't stand that they get a summer vacation. But teachers don't write the school calendar, and if the union had a hand in it, the city agreed to it!
Disclaimer: I have been a public school teacher for 17 years, after having other types of jobs including military service. Instead of just bitching about the liberals in education, I chose to become a teacher myself and try to make a difference.
If you are not happy with education in America, how about becoming a teacher yourself? How about standing in front of 30 middle schoolers and trying to get them to come along with you on a lesson or activity? It is exciting, exhausting, rewarding, frustrating, and meaningful.
We could use your help, and at the very least you would be taking the place of another liberal educrat.
Ping to a perennial teacher-bashing thread...
Stop electing politicians who have teachers in their immediate families.
Narrow that to publicly employed teachers.
PS-The Unions and the City are BOTH Government entities. The taxpayers have no say. It used to be that those who went into public service, like those who went into education, made less but had better benefits. Now they make far more and have even better benefits than those of us who pay taxes to support their lifestyles and retirement.
I don’t even want to get involved. The attitude is beyond my comprehension.
You didn’t offend — not at all.
I was just trying to add to the thread that there are two sides to every union contract. I can’t stand the union but I am forced to pay the dues. I cannot and do not complain about the benefits and I am appalled that some teachers do. But I didn’t become a teacher for the benefits.
Best of luck to you, FRiend. If you work in a cancer lab, my hat is off to you. I have been on the patient side of cancer care, and I have the greatest respect for those of you on the front line. Thank you for your work.
Thank you. I do not denigrate teachers. My mom was a teacher. I just sometimes think that some people don’t realize what others may be going through. The Congress has decreed how many slides I can scrutinize every day with my microscope. Congress has decided what is the norm. Your comment made me wonder if it was more frightening to deal with 30 middle schoolers each day or to worry how many of the 88-130 (depending on the specimen and the preparation) patients I had screened who, if I might have missed ONE of the 5,000-8,000 cells on the prep that might have been atypical, would be the one to sue. Medicine is a terrifying field these days. What many in the public do not realize is, you cannot sue the Government. And when it is only Government care, there is no one to turn to, no one who will be held accountable. So, as you see, I am dealing with my own worries about getting my job done and worrying about the patients who might not be treated properly. Enough for my rant tonight. Take care. Glad you (or your loved ones) are on the mend. And thank you again for your kinder words.
You denigrate our work, yet I have serious doubts whether you could present a lesson in an engaging manner, or even just control a room of 34 kids who basically don't want to be there. And you don't mention having to deal with such remarks as being asked to suck various intimate body parts of students, being cursed and then threatened to be killed with a knife, with a gun, to be jumped after school out on the street. The week before last, I had a student brandish a metal table leg over my head in a threatening manner. I've been hit in the head with thrown bottles and other heavy objects. Do doctors have these occupational hazards? Not to the extent that teachers do!
Teachers are ALSO exposed to many types of diseases, dealing with kids from countries all over the world who are not necessarily vaccinated. How many times have I received memos to exclude certain children from my classes because their medical records and vaccinations were not in order, AFTER they'd been sitting in my classroom for L-rd knows how many months.
How can teachers be viewed as "union stooges" when the union has all but abandoned them to the predation of greedy and cruel politicians with their hand in the till, eagerly turning education into a cash cow for themselves called "edu-biz"?
Your post is so typical of people who have not stood in a classroom and walked in the moccasins of an educator.
At least the certificated Union teachers here in CA are vastly over paid to do so.
Once again you prove that your mouth (in this case, keyboard) is faster than your brain. I have an advanced degree in a hard science. Do you? I do 4 languages. Do you? I’ve won awards for my art, but never participated in “community organizing”, whatever the heck that is. You’re very free with the flinging of nasty and undocumented accusations here, buddy. Can you back any of them up, or are they, as I suspect, just quick potshots from the safety of your computer anonymity?
You make me laugh.
Ooooo some one feels hurt
Are you a dues paying member?
Is that the best you got, buddy? Typical response for someone who’s run out of parroted party lines to recite. I am so glad that YOU are not in a classroom influencing young minds. Bad enough you think you can do that here. Trying to spread malice with no facts to back you up shows you up pretty badly for the coward that you are. The kind that takes potshots and then ducks behind the ether to stay anonymous. You wouldn’t survive a day in an urban high school. They’d dine on you in your first 15 minutes as you cower behind the desk.
You spout all of the appropriate lines that teachers unions have fed you over the years. Your anger drips off the page.
Oooo I wouldn’t survive in an urban high school...because you say so. What I find so interesting is that not once have you acknowledged the deficiencies of public education in the US. Not once have you suggested that there may be a few things we can agree upon. Instead you engaged in personal attacks on me.
I have taught in some of the worst districts that SF had to offer. It put me through graduate school. My experience in the public school system taught me that unions are strong and while some teachers might actually care about the students most cared about retirement benefits, days off with pay, and other ‘issues’.
When you say you have an advanced ‘science’ degree would you mind sharing with us what that is? Are you a high school chemistry or physics teacher? Do you teach AP classes or beginning slog classes?
And in your ranting you never did answer my original question....ARE YOU A DUES PAYING MEMBER????
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