Posted on 04/14/2014 11:39:05 AM PDT by ponygirl
Edited on 04/14/2014 11:42:42 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
Please take a look at this report, I just got it and haven’t had a chance to verify the authenticity, but it seems important and real so I’m running with it.
These guys say they were at the Bundy standoff all week, and that there is much more to this than meets the eye.
I have a better idea. Force the MSM to do their jobs.
Boycott every advertiser of MSM shows and Chick Fil A them. Start with the NY Times since they’re vulnerable right now financially. Stick the knife in their backs and Slim will get rid of them fast. With advertisers pulling out, with no one to buy them, they will fall into bankruptcy and die.
Then on to the next target. That’s how you win the war.
It seems like America always starts its wars with a devastating loss.
Lexington, Pearl Harbor, World Trade Center, etc.
But the loss just pisses us off and sets the stage for the rest of the conflict.
I certainly hope so. So far, they’ve been unchecked in their arrogance. The problem with the nose-rubbing thing is, it adds a dimension of personal vengeance they might feel entitled to.
It’s a problem that they are now aware of the value their employer places on their very lives and well-being?
Are they going to resent us, or their employers?
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I’m not certain they’ve made the connection between their employer and the danger they were placed in. Cops (especially wannabe cops) are not known in these parts for being the sharpest knives in the drawer. As I said earlier, they may be so thrilled with their legal sanction to beat “the little people” up and get away with it, they don’t notice their situational environment is changing.
(My apologies to any good cops there may be in the FR audience. You’re on FR, so obviously this sweeping generalization doesn’t apply to you!)
Custer made two critical mistakes. He underestimated the numbers, true, but even worse he failed to grasp the intensity of the individuals he faced. They were many, hardened, and extremely angry over the recent massacre of their civilians.
People in this country are getting to that point.
>>Loyalty is a two-way street, how loyal will these guys be next time? How eager will their colleagues nation-wide be to be the ones hung out to dry?
I predict a massive outbreak of “blue flu” next time the call goes out for an away team of ‘red shirts’ to be bled white...<<
You and I are thinking along the same lines.
see these are the ones I have trouble with.... is the government that insane?
I am not of the Alex and Jesse school of thought that false flags are EVERYWHERE and all you have to do is look for them.
But then again this whole charade was just nuts from the beginning.
To me they backed down because they were faced with people who would not give up or go away and it flummoxed them. They will be back Harry Reid has already promised that
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There was also the factor of many family groups in the immediate vicinity making the tactic of breaking contact and running not viable. The village couldn't be moved when attack was imminent so the only alternative was to fight like he11 and try and run over the army with weight of numbers which they did.
Yup. In Custer’s defense, he got some really bad numbers from his scouts. He thought he faced hundreds of Lakota, when in reality he faced them plus thousands of Sioux.
I am of the thought/opinion it all started with China having bad times in and of itself and they put the squeeze on Obama and his enablers for debt payment through the Chinese solar business outfits. Reid and his minions were obviously to be the willing helpers with behind the scene manipulations. It has to be recognized that the Federal Government has a tremendous advantage in warfare assets unless these assets can be neutralized by very strong and sympathetic general public support along with possibly military sympathy. I don’t see our feckless Congress helping out with any of It’s Constitutional authority. Without such support the USA is a long way down the political, not patriotic, path to unknown government such as Sharia.
If you listen to the video, the BLM spokesman tried to get just Bundy and his son to come through the barricade to “talk” about the cows.
The “plan” that the BLM guys in the ditch were supposed to follow was to snatch Bundy and call in the armored vehicles and backup (IMHO).
They probably realized everyone there was being set up
I’m not getting the whole set-up thing. I think it was just serendipity.
It seems like just another case of “We are the government and you will obey us”.
It would have been a disaster for Obama and Holder at this point, not to mention Reid. This was called off at the highest level most likely due to political pressure from Democrats. It escalated to quickly for the standard Marginalize, Demonize, Criminalize of the left. It got stuck on marginalize and they couldn’t.
I firmly believe the BLM leaders wanted bloodshed, they cared not which side. It would then justify bringing in whatever level of force they wanted.
Well I think the mentality of any agency of the U.S Government, State or otherwise is “We are the Government and you will comply” So in that regards I believe they wouldn’t have had to seek any further justification, particularly the Federal agencies. After all every single one of them have immunity while carrying out enforcement duties.
At the political level, the stakes go up but only politically. At the foot soldier level they just see somebody flouting the law. Most would shoot at civilians without any hesitation because their own life and limb are on the line.
I believe it’s just that mentality in my first paragraph that caused the situation, and it was called off because of reasons explained in the second paragraph.
I see no conspiracy. It doesn’t make sense because the government doesn’t have to conspire to enforce it’s laws.
“I see no conspiracy. It doesn’t make sense because the government doesn’t have to conspire to enforce it’s laws.”
Serious question, not a troll or call out:
Do you, personally, know or have directly worked with any mid level or higher folks in the Dept of Interior or DHS?
I do and know from personal interaction that conspiracies like what are being mentioned are very real, and ongoing.
Just like the unspoken push to drive Americans off as many of the public lands as they can, this one is not just happenstance, but is by design.
No offense taken, I do appreciate the light touch, it’s better than what I typically receive — being a conservative of a different mind on FR.
Agenda’s and Conspiracies are often confused. While I’m sure there was an agenda, I doubt there was a conspiracy.
It’s pretty clear to me that Court Judgements need to be enforced at some point or another. Not that I agree with violent enforcement all the time, or even in this case.
Is a private word from a Senator to an Agency official automatically a Conspiracy? While secretly engaging and encouraging breaking the law is certainly a conspiracy, I don’t think that the same applies when it’s to enforce the law within the confines of the Governments mandate. It might not be proper, but the law and the judgements are public information and that precludes a conspiracy in my book.
I’m sure there are exceptions and that in some ways I’m wrong but I just don’t see it here. All I see is stupidity and improper influence.
Just as I’m sure that all the inroads Gay’s and Lesbians have made over the Obama terms are no coincidence, Was it a conspiracy or was it a confluence of agendas?
I believe that first you have to see your opponent correctly. Once you can, then you can make your moves and counter moves accordingly. Writing things off as conspiracies is just a shortcut to violence for both parties.
I do believe that conspiracies exist. Mainly that people that don’t live in the real world I.E the very rich and the very powerful do conspire to maintain or even increase their wealth and social status by pushing a Oligarchal Feudalism upon us with boundries based on social and economic standings.
“”The Texicans, to refer back to the Alamo, got chased all over the Texas Hill Country because they were outnumbered and had squat for artillery.
They waited and waited and waited . . .. until they had the advantage at the Battle of San Jacinto, where the entire -— superior -— Mexican Army was defeated in 18 minutes.
The Alamo -— while it proved a helpful rally cry -— remains a monument to the stupidity of fixed fortifications.””
I disagree. I live in Texas and can tell you Just as the Feds have overwhelming force like Santa Anna. At times there comes a time when up against an overwhelming force, there comes a group of men who against all odds stand up and fight with overwhelming courage, even to the death. That day at the Alamo was a rallying cry yes, but more than anything it showed the enemy Courage that put fear into them.
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