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To: BruceDeitrickPrice
Here's my take:

1st reason: they are government schools. Let's stop calling them "public schools" and start calling them "government schools."

2nd reason: they are run by state teachers unions who don't care about education, other than Leftist indoctrination so they can keep getting their paychecks.

3rd reason: federal dept of education and "no child Left Behind" is all the problems with government schools on steroids

Fixing it:

1) Get the feds out of education and nuke the Dept of Education

2) Get education out of the hands of the state teacher's unions and back into the hands of local communities and parents.

4 posted on 04/12/2014 2:36:56 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: PapaNew

bump


6 posted on 04/12/2014 2:50:57 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: PapaNew

2) Get education out of the hands of the state teacher’s unions and back into the hands of local communities and parents.

Parents will only be in control when they write the check for tuition and decide who to give it to.


15 posted on 04/12/2014 3:19:58 PM PDT by ALPAPilot
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To: PapaNew
Locally controlled single-payer and socialist-entitlement schooling is still SOCIALIST schooling. In a few decades it morphs into state socialist schooling and then into federally controlled schooling.

Children who attend socialist-entitlement and single-payer schools risk learning to be comfortable with socialism. Gee! If the local voting mob can give them tuition-free school, why not use the voting mob to get **lots** of “free” stuff.

Please remember. It only took one to three generations of single-payer and socialist-entitlment schooling to give the nation Woodrow Wilson and Franklin D. Roosevelt.

24 posted on 04/12/2014 3:32:50 PM PDT by wintertime
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To: PapaNew

Eliminate “Education” degrees and require a real degree in a real subject area.

Education degrees and Journalism degrees are totally meaningless.


30 posted on 04/12/2014 3:55:18 PM PDT by newfreep
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To: PapaNew

The first order of business in government education is to ban teachers unions. The unions are negotiating with politicians they endorse and helped get elected....who in this equation is looking out for the interests parents/taxpayers? Nobody....

Second order of business is to eliminate tenure. A job for life no matter what you do is simply wrong on so many levels I don’t even know where to begin on this.

Third, is to change the degree requirements for teachers. Start with the pedantic techniques they are taught, and change the coursework.
Most of these education majors have the highest GPA’s, and the lowest IQ’s. Yet the engineering schools have the lowest GPA’s and the highest IQ’s. The education department of every college is the intellectual slum of every university. The paradigm needs to be changed. The IQ of the education schools needs to be the equivalent of the engineering schools. Eliminate the soggy leftist boondoggle coursework for things like Calculus 1 as the primary filter. No pass Calc 1, no teaching credentials. This is a filter to drive off the riffraff, nothing more.

Fourth is to demand performance from the children. If they can’t do the work, then move them to the side, and let the ones who excel, advance to meet their needs. The behavior problems need to be dealt with. Expel them...end of story. I don’t want to hear about the prison pipeline. That pipeline begins in the fatherless welfare addicted homes...not in the schools. These miscreants were born like everyone else, it is that they were never civilized by their children parents. who themselves were never civilized by their children parents going on five generations now. And we wonder why our society is falling apart.

In all of this there needs to be impeachment and removal of any judge who enables these lowlife parents.


35 posted on 04/12/2014 5:04:14 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: PapaNew; Forward the Light Brigade

Easiest, and (IMHO) best solution, is the Capitalist solution:

Those utilizing the service of ‘public’ (gov’t) education PAYS for said education.

- No more perpetual property taxes (for those of us w/out children and/or not in school)
- Direct payment = can fire/hire as they wish
- ‘Schools’ would pop up left/right to fill the void where service is required/lacking
- (think the pros could take their own thread)...


44 posted on 04/12/2014 9:16:55 PM PDT by i_robot73 (Give me one example and I will show where gov't is the root of the problem(s).)
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