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Why even the most isolationist and unconcerned Fudd should care about the Ukraine -- Poof!
sipseystreetirregulars ^ | 2 March, 2014 | Mike Vanderboegh

Posted on 03/03/2014 6:05:50 AM PST by marktwain

I had a fellow tell me this morning that he was completely unconcerned about the Ukraine situation, believing that Obama would take the "Chamberlain way out" of confrontation. No he won't, I replied, he'll take the Clinton way out -- do nothing about the larger issue but he'll cut off our access to Russian ammunition just like Clinton cut off our access to inexpensive Chinese ammo in the 90s, to "punish them for human rights violations." Didn't think of that one, did ya?


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: ammunition; banglist; russia; ukraine
Mike Vanderboegh is a strategic thinker. I should have thought of that one...
1 posted on 03/03/2014 6:05:50 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

There’s still Serbia. :-)

I haven’t been all that impressed with the Russian ammo. But, you’re right, it DOES go bang and it’s relatively cheap.


2 posted on 03/03/2014 6:10:40 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: marktwain

Academics can’t visualize the new christian russia. Our elite government overseers are clueless about what drives Russia’s will to survive. The academic experts in the federal reserve couldn’t see the housing bubble until after the collapse. Viet Nam war was forfeited run by acacdemic elitists after the ground war was won. The current bureaucrats of both parties can’t understand religion and how it drives all civilization. America is on the wrong side of history and is defacto a moslem proxy nation. Russian is diving deep into its ancient christian tradition and they feel empowered as good vs USA evil. Go figure who will strike first.


3 posted on 03/03/2014 6:13:24 AM PST by x_plus_one (The harvest is great but the workers are few. Salman Rushdie is still in hiding.)
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To: marktwain

If Putin wins in the Crimea, we’ll lose all influence in Abkhazia. It’s very worrisome.


4 posted on 03/03/2014 6:21:07 AM PST by Colonel Kangaroo
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It pays to plan ahead.


5 posted on 03/03/2014 6:21:57 AM PST by deoetdoctrinae (Gun-free zones are playgrounds for felons.)
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6 posted on 03/03/2014 6:27:24 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: marktwain

No, I didn’t see that one but it fits with his agenda.


7 posted on 03/03/2014 6:37:21 AM PST by bgill
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To: Colonel Kangaroo

HAHAHA, what!? Where!?


8 posted on 03/03/2014 6:49:47 AM PST by SgtHooper (If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.)
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To: Nervous Tick
I haven’t been all that impressed with the Russian ammo. But, you’re right, it DOES go bang and it’s relatively cheap.

TULAmmo and the other Russian manufacturers did increase their output over the past year because of *our* increased demand.

9 posted on 03/03/2014 7:18:50 AM PST by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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>> TULAmmo and the other Russian manufacturers did increase their output over the past year because of *our* increased demand.

No doubt. I wish American manufacturers would do the same!

I realize there are supply chain issues the domestic industry is struggling with. At the same time I wonder why e.g. the Russians can ramp up whereas domestic mfgrs seem not to be able to.

I guess for one thing the Russians can still smelt lead in the motherland and don’t have to buy bullets from Mexico. :-)


10 posted on 03/03/2014 7:23:29 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: Nervous Tick; All

“No doubt. I wish American manufacturers would do the same!”

If you think American manufacturers have not ramped up output, you have not been paying attention.

Virtually all .22 ammunition manufacurers around the world are producing as much as they can 24/7 to attempt to meet the American demand. American demand for .22 ammunition has jumped up so high, so fast, that you would have to double or triple manufacturing capacity to meet this spike in demand. You cannot do so in a year, nor would it be wise or prudent to do so.

Centerfire rifle and pistol rounds have temporarily satisfied demand, and are now re-occupying store shelves. Shotgun ammunition was always available.

In another year, given no more insanity on the part of the White House, .22 ammunition will be readily available...

That is a pretty big IF, though...


11 posted on 03/03/2014 7:36:24 AM PST by marktwain (The old media must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: Nervous Tick
I believe the domestic U.S. ammo manufacturers did increase their production as much as possible. The Russian companies do not have the same size commercial home market as we see as the norm, so they had more production capability to tap. Probably more raw materials on hand, too.

FWIW, the cost and availability issues are probably secondary issues where imported ammunition is concerned. This is just the sort of crisis that Zero would exploit by banning Russian firearms, firearm parts, accessories and ammunition. All he has to do is tell the BATFE to do so; it already has the authority to act under the '68 GCA.

12 posted on 03/03/2014 7:38:02 AM PST by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: marktwain

>> If you think American manufacturers have not ramped up output, you have not been paying attention.

Yeah, I was a little harsh. I am sure that they ramped up as much as they possibly could. It’s their business, after all.

But I have also read about, and observed firsthand, just how inelastic the domestic ammunition supply chain really is.

>> Shotgun ammunition was always available.

Thank GOD for target loads... :-) Yes, 12 gauge is for the most part flush, at reasonable prices. .410 buck (for my Judge) is still a bit hard to find at a price I’m willing to pay. Sellier & Bellot had a good, inexpensive offering, as did Federal. Haven’t seen it on the shelf in more than a year. You can buy the uber-pricey “self defense” rounds though.

>> In another year, given no more insanity on the part of the White House, .22 ammunition will be readily available...

Your lips to Winchester’s ear!


13 posted on 03/03/2014 8:04:30 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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