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Mark Levin omitted vital information when explaining the Electoral College
2/16/2014 | johnwk

Posted on 02/16/2014 6:09:45 PM PST by JOHN W K

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1 posted on 02/16/2014 6:09:45 PM PST by JOHN W K
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To: JOHN W K

“taxation is tied to the size of each State’s Electoral College vote”

Can you be more clear where this is in the Constitution?


2 posted on 02/16/2014 6:15:04 PM PST by ifinnegan
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To: JOHN W K

Thats only $446.56 difference between CA and WY.

Why the hit piece on Mark? He’s one of the good guys.


3 posted on 02/16/2014 6:15:21 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: JOHN W K

Very insightful. You should call in and question him on it.


4 posted on 02/16/2014 6:16:03 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: JOHN W K
United States Constitution, from Article II, Section 1:

Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector.

All the commentary above regarding apportionment of the Electoral College according to per capita taxation is utterly ignorant rubbish.

5 posted on 02/16/2014 6:19:14 PM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: JOHN W K

Do the figures cited include income taxes collected under authority of the 16th Amendment?


6 posted on 02/16/2014 6:19:53 PM PST by Ken H (What happens on the internet, stays on the internet.)
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To: JOHN W K

Very interesting. Thanks for posting.


7 posted on 02/16/2014 6:20:26 PM PST by PGalt
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To: JOHN W K

You might want to check with someone who understands this a bit more than you.
You are way off base.
Yes, it would be great if you were correct, but you are not.
The Controlling Language is found in the Amendment which authorizes an Income Tax.
That negates the language you refer to.


8 posted on 02/16/2014 6:20:30 PM PST by Kansas58
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To: JOHN W K

You might want to check with someone who understands this a bit more than you.
You are way off base.
Yes, it would be great if you were correct, but you are not.
The Controlling Language is found in the Amendment which authorizes an Income Tax.
That negates the language you refer to.


9 posted on 02/16/2014 6:20:38 PM PST by Kansas58
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To: driftdiver

The author forgets why the Sixteenth Amendment to the Constitution was ratified in 1913. It was to provide for a federal income tax not bound to the rule on capitation.


10 posted on 02/16/2014 6:21:16 PM PST by Procyon (Decentralize, degovernmentalize, deregulate, demonopolize, decredentialize, disentitle.)
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Thus, the reason Mr. Levin did not say anything about this in his explanation of the workings of the Electoral College is for the simple reason that it is not in the text of the constitution.


11 posted on 02/16/2014 6:22:03 PM PST by The Man
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To: driftdiver

That’s per tax payer. And it’s not a hit piece.


12 posted on 02/16/2014 6:25:39 PM PST by JOHN W K
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To: JOHN W K
You are speaking about Article I Section 2 Clause 3's original language regarding the census?


Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons. The actual Enumeration shall be made within three Years after the first Meeting of the Congress of the United States, and within every subsequent Term of ten Years, in such Manner as they shall by Law direct.

Since the census was authorized for both representation and direct taxes, and since the same census representation is the basis for the Electoral College distributions, it is implied that direct taxes is the reason for the Electoral College?

-PJ

13 posted on 02/16/2014 6:27:24 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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other than the fact you are incorrect and have totally ignored passage of the 16th amendment, what’s your point.

Pretty funny when a hack tries to call out ‘the great one’. You aren’t even in the same league


14 posted on 02/16/2014 6:27:59 PM PST by Nifster
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To: John Valentine
You forgot the part of our constitution which commands Representatives and direct taxes shall be apportioned. Is the rule of apportionment "ignorant rubbish"?

JWK

15 posted on 02/16/2014 6:28:17 PM PST by JOHN W K
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To: Ken H
The 16th Amendment did not change the rule of apportionment as applied to direct taxation or its legislative intent!

JWK

16 posted on 02/16/2014 6:29:55 PM PST by JOHN W K
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To: Political Junkie Too

try reading the 16th amendment please


17 posted on 02/16/2014 6:29:57 PM PST by Nifster
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To: JOHN W K

Yes indeed it did.

“The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration.”

Other than the fact you do not understand constitutional law, I guess you can claim to be spot on


18 posted on 02/16/2014 6:31:25 PM PST by Nifster
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To: Kansas58
Your opinion is noted. But keep in mind the 16th Amendment made no change with regard to direct taxation, or, the legislative intent for which the rule of apportionment was adopted.

JWK

19 posted on 02/16/2014 6:31:59 PM PST by JOHN W K
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You forgot the part of our constitution which commands Representatives and direct taxes shall be apportioned.

Simple. Quote it to me, if you can. But you cannot.

I read out for you the clear and concise language that determines apportionment to the Electoral College. What do you have? Answer: Crap.

20 posted on 02/16/2014 6:35:06 PM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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