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If the CSA hadn’t fired on Ft Sumter would Lincoln have been able to deploy troops to punish them?
I think if the CSA had merely ignored the presence of this fort and the authority of Lincoln’s government the dispute might’ve been settled without a war.
It was only the overt act of attacking Ft Sumter that allowed Lincoln to cast the CSA as the aggressors. Without this I doubt that the citizens of the north would’ve been willing to go to war.
I couldn’t read the whole thing; I was becoming nauseous. What I take away from the first few paragraphs, though, is that if the south had not seceded and then fired on Ft. Sumpter and started a war, everything would be hunky-dory! They’d still have their “peculiar institution” and they’d all be as happy as a clam.....except for the blacks, of course.
Where has this genius BEEN all these years?! I spent 4 years in the U.S. Military, much of it with southern guys; and because of the type of work we did, nearly all of them had had some college before enlisting, and many of them were graduates; and I NEVER heard a one of them come off with ANY of the drivel THIS guy is spewing. There were frequent debates and latrine arguments among us GIs, but none of that “overtaxed” baloney or anything else ever came up.
I have read dozens of books on all aspects of the Civil War; and seen numerous movies, documentaries, etc. about it, and I don’t recall ever hearing this stuff. Where has all this information been buried all these years?
BFL
Secede, secession, succeed, succession.
Although there was some opposition to slavery in the country, the government was willing to concede everything the South wanted regarding slavery to keep it in the Union.
To say "everything" is simply not true. The one thing the Slave Powers had been demanding for the last 30 years was the one issue that Lincoln refused to compromise on. That is the expansion of slavery to the territories. The South demanded it, and Lincoln and his party refused to allow it.
I have a book that is full of actual speeches and quotes by Lincoln during his term and run for senate. He was very much against slavery and the push to spread it in the new territories was real and constant. He knew that it would eventually destroy the union, and he also said things to mollify the weaker and Democratic souls in order to get his way...the good way, done. This author really doesn’t know what he writes.
And whether slavery would have eventually been gone is probably true, however, the larger it grew at the time, the more people it enslaved. It was not just apartheid that died with much bloodshed too, it was far worse. It very well could have split the nation into two, with the slave part eventually becoming free, but then we probably would have had two separate and weaker nations.
Some serious bumpage is in order for later reading. The posts will be better than Netflix tonight!!!
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bkmk
Placemarker
Why don't you tell this to the thousands of descendents of Southern patriots who fought for their country rather than rebel, among whom were my own ancestors?
Why don't you come to the small Southern cemetery where our family buries its dead (and which contains the bodies of many Union veterans but not one rebel so far as I know) and tell the people their ancestors were "communists" and proto-Obamabots?
You miserable feudal neo-Confederates should go back to the Democrat party that spawned you.
The Truth About Abraham Lincoln
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-W5fGCAzOk