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DNA shows Irish people have more complex origins than previously thought
scott.net ^ | July 5, 2013 | Marie McKeown

Posted on 01/11/2014 6:13:55 AM PST by NYer

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To: NYer

All of this has been known for decades from historical sources - without any DNA evidence.


21 posted on 01/11/2014 7:13:20 AM PST by vladimir998
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To: sodpoodle

“British” isn’t necessarily a reference to English. Even the Celts in the British Isles used that term before the English arrived.


22 posted on 01/11/2014 7:22:24 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: NYer
Irish and Scottish people share very similar DNA
I'm of Irish descent ... at least three gg-Grandparents came to America about 1850.
Had my DNA tested a few years ago and discovered my Haplogroup is R-M269, with 91% of my DNA being of Orcadian origin.
I question that 91% is 100% valid, but it does suggests my ancestors once occupied the Orkney Islands of Scotland, which have links to the Vikings.
23 posted on 01/11/2014 7:41:07 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: NYer

My dad always claimed we were “Black Irish.” Ancestors he traced all came from West Coast of Ireland. Anecodatally, tall, thin, black hair, fair skin (that tans) blue eyes...our surname begins a “J” and that somehow figured into the equation.


24 posted on 01/11/2014 7:42:05 AM PST by PennsylvaniaMom ( Just because you are paranoid, it doesn't mean they aren't out to get you...n)
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To: NYer
FYI ping for those who are of Irish descent. Enjoy!

Thank the Basques too.

25 posted on 01/11/2014 7:52:36 AM PST by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: NYer

Is this really news? Hasn’t anyone heard of Galicia?


26 posted on 01/11/2014 7:55:14 AM PST by Romulus
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To: JimRed
That red headed cutie

Looks like he could be a tough little guy when he grows up.

27 posted on 01/11/2014 7:59:45 AM PST by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: zot

DNA ping, see also post #6


28 posted on 01/11/2014 7:59:55 AM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: James C. Bennett

I remember reading that Scots and Jewish inhabitants of northern Spain share a particular blood disorder. Anyone else remember this report?


29 posted on 01/11/2014 8:01:36 AM PST by abclily
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To: NYer
Thank you!

But this is mostly theoretical.

You can find a much more practical analysis here. ;-)

30 posted on 01/11/2014 8:07:45 AM PST by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it?)
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To: Saoirise

FYI&P.S. ‘Slaite’!


31 posted on 01/11/2014 8:44:39 AM PST by 444Flyer (How long O LORD?)
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To: 444Flyer

I told ya we are a complicated bunch.

And it’s Slainte,


32 posted on 01/11/2014 8:50:25 AM PST by Saoirise (Keep Larry Hutchins Free - USMC)
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To: Mouton

LOL! You may have ducked that comeback....but I suspect that she will engage in some sort of clever retribution (with a twinkling eye and a profound sense of humor...unless she hasn’t been saying her prayers).

;-)


33 posted on 01/11/2014 8:56:06 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: NYer
"magical super-race"


34 posted on 01/11/2014 9:02:33 AM PST by bgill
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To: NYer; SunkenCiv

“The earliest settlers came to Ireland around 10,000 years ago, in Stone Age times...”

The above is the most important statement of the whole article. You’re probably asking yourself, why?

Because the last Ice Age began to end around 15,000 years ago and the sea level was 400 feet lower than today. Ice extended as far south as Scotland and across to Ireland. The weight of that ice caused a ‘bulge’ in the earth’s crust to the south and west.

There was no English Channel filled with sea water - it was dry land and connected to Europe’s wide grazing space through Germany and Poland, fronting the northern ice sheet, and extending across Europe to above the Old Euxine Lake (later to become the New Euxine Sea [modern Black Sea]).

Ice age France had large glaciers in it’s central area and hunters from Spain probably followed game that retreated north up the western side of this ice, towards what is today the English Channel. People were already there, and to avoid territorial disputes, the migrants from Spain stayed far to the west and moved up the western parts of present day Ireland towards land which later would be flooded by the rising sea.

Land west of present day Ireland was later flooded by the rising sea level combined with subsidence, as the ice sheet ‘bulge’ slowly disappeared. The sea flooded into areas formerly grazing land connecting England to the continent, and today the bones of those now extinct creature, the mammoths and wooly rhinos, are brought up by fishermen in the North Sea and English Channel.


35 posted on 01/11/2014 11:31:31 AM PST by SatinDoll (A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN IS BORN IN THE USA OF USA CITIZEN PARENTS)
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To: SunkenCiv

I have already linked in to ‘godsgravesglyphs’. Seemed a good match.


36 posted on 01/11/2014 11:33:20 AM PST by SatinDoll (A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN IS BORN IN THE USA OF USA CITIZEN PARENTS)
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To: NYer
The obvious similarities of culture, pale skin, tendency to red hair...

Hooray for red hair!
37 posted on 01/11/2014 12:02:14 PM PST by redheadtoo
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To: GreyFriar

Thanks for the ping. DNA research is fascinating. The language similarities at Post #6 are also interesting.


38 posted on 01/11/2014 12:36:10 PM PST by zot
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To: Saoirise

Must use Celtic spellcheck next time.lol


39 posted on 01/11/2014 12:58:40 PM PST by 444Flyer (How long O LORD?)
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To: SatinDoll

I was listening to a podcast and the author said the natives of Britain in stone age times would gather hazelnuts by cutting the trees down.


40 posted on 01/11/2014 1:27:00 PM PST by Sawdring
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