Posted on 11/19/2013 8:41:21 PM PST by grey_whiskers
Please listen to the whole thing.
Cheers!
I think I know what you’re saying, but I find some really good Christian bands....this is a particular favorite, and I find them very creative, hip, but yet respectful and aware....
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVZTixXjWg6ue13dzb_dQmA
I grew up with Phil.
His Pappy was the county dog catcher.
When the old dog pound was closed they use it to practice in.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3iSiij98VY
Speaking of sleep, it is 'that' time for me now. LOLOL!
(Yikes! but he's good.)
Cheers!
The man has a gift.
I have never seen that clip before.
Cheers!
BTW God Bless John Sffera, for making the first move to reunite Phil and Dan.
If you’re into contemporary rock, check out air1.com
Watched a bit, kind of reminded me of kansas in some way.
Kerry Livgren =good thing, to me, anyway.
I think the real answer to your thesis is $$$, in more ways than one.
On the one hand, often cheap production values $$$
On the other hand, ‘talented’ musicians preferring the $$$ of the secular / crossover market $$$
On the third hand, execs unwilling to take risks, and pursuing ‘safer’ investments.
‘Sugarcane in cellophane is playing at the radio station’, as one musician put it.
I’ve seen Phil play live, and afterward, it makes his studio albums seem pale in comparison. Just a man and his guitar, so much more alive than 1s and 0s
Given your outspokenness on the matter, I’d be curious to see what you might have to say about, oh, the following list:
Mark Heard
Amy Grant
Undercover
Dream theater
Ayreon
Darrell Mansfield
Petra
Carman
Kerry Livgren
Daniel Amos
Ambrosia
You may not be familiar with all those names, not all are Christian bands, and I threw in a couple of obvious ones too.
Just curious.
I’d write a rant of my own, but, sleep!
From the Studio; Jars of Clay. The first four songs are outstanding, the rest pretty good. Is ten years old contemporary? http://www.amazon.com/Furthermore-Studio-Stage-Jars-Clay/dp/B000084TTM/ref=sr_1_14?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1384931442&sr=1-14&keywords=jars+of+clay
What literally used to cost tens of millions of dollars in building a high quality studio in the 80s can now be had for under 5 thousand dollars. and that includes the cost of a stable high end computer and a pair of high quality studio monitors.
You can literally download for free a fully functional high end digital music production system that would make what the Beatles recorded on comparable to the difference between the first Wright Brothers plane and the Starship Enterprise.
Many bands now just build their own studios and lay down the tracks and then maybe they take the rough mix to a high end studio for final mixdown and mastering BUT, even those processes are becoming so easy due to new highly sophisticated digital software that can literally compensate for "room acoustics" and give you that "sweet sound" that used to be the purview of the wizards of the audio world the "mastering engineers"...
Can the pros in those big studios do it better?
Absolutely, in most cases.
But "better" used to be because they had a huge advantage in being able to use equipment only the elite in the recording world could get their hands on.
Now literally anyone can have the equipment on their computer and if you actually study the great albums and do some research you can get a sound so close that only a professional would know the difference.
The vast majority of music consumers (99.99%) would not be able to tell any difference at all.
That was very interesting, grey_whiskers. I’m not ashamed of having very pedestrian musical tastes. However, one thing I find irritating about current Christian pop is that what could be excellent songs are spoiled by a writer/lead singer who can’t sing.
They have melodies that sound like the alto line of dozens of favorite hymns: D-D-D-D-C-C-D, D-D-D-E-E-F!-C.
The lyrics are wonderful.
It's a matter of taste; de gustibus non est disputandum.
I very nearly lost a friend years ago when I told him that one of his favorite Christian ensembles sounded like they had taken a death metal song and replaced "Satan" with "Jesus". I would hold the same opinion-- that at a minimum Christian music should "come out from among them and be...separate", i.e. distinguishable to the most uneducated ear-- but I would be a bit kinder in how I said so.
The Lord bless all who praise Him with a pure heart, even if their praise jangles in my ears.
That is from a European Group Called Globus, it is really an Amalgamation of Different Euro Bands and Singers that come together for a super concert.
Hey, now that I’m awake, wanted to say ‘thanks’ for sharing that. I’d never heard of it before, downloaded them off itunes and have been enjoying it this morning.
Have you considered a music blog? I’d be curious about what you have to say about various things, review etc. Hence my questions above. Rather amusingly, I’ve since discovered that members of many of the bands I mentioned have been involved with Mr. Morse’s music. Verry interesting...
Anyway, one of the reasons I asked was because I’m curious if there’s more good stuff out there that I’ve been missing out on.
Regards,
Amy Grant -- barfage.
Undercover -- I think they were among the first of the 80's non-pablum Christian bands; never heard their stuff.
Dream theater -- Mike Portnoy and/or Neal Morse. Yum.
Ayreon -- never even heard of.
Darrell Mansfield -- heard some of his stuff in the early 80's, liked it.
Petra -- 1st generation Christian Rock (early-mid 70's). To me they straddled the line between the "genuine Jesus Freak pioneers" and the "formulaic pablum"...
Carman -- something about that guy raises my spiritual hackles. My personal radar seemed to detect a whiff of 18-year-old starstruck girls drawn to him for being "oh SO cool"...
Kerry Livgren -- Kansas and AD are all I'm aware of; the lyrics to his AD struck me as very "Tea Party before there was a Tea Party"-esque as much as Christian. (He played on one of the 2nd Chapter of Acts albums & I saw them on tour together...) His album Seeds of Change was one of the *best* Christian albums *ever* done. He freaked out a lot of people by having Ronnie James Dio as lead vocalist on a couple of songs: Mask of the Great Deceiver (which makes *some* sense) and To Live For the King (which puzzled me as the lyrics could be...hmmm, 'misinterpreted')
Daniel Amos -- heard of by reputation; never heard their stuff.
Ambrosia -- all I know is I *think* one of their band members (was it David Pack?) was one of the musicians on Kerry Livgren's aforementioned Seeds of Change.
Cheers!
Cheers!
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