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Average Detroit High School Student Missed 46 Days of School Last Year
Capitol Confidential ^ | 11/5/2013 | Tom Gantert

Posted on 11/06/2013 2:05:17 PM PST by MichCapCon

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To: Teotwawki
Here we have a dad who loves his son and is good for him, but some judge is going to sever that completely for a few days of government schooling

ridiculous. You are right.

21 posted on 11/06/2013 3:30:19 PM PST by GeronL
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To: IYAS9YAS
Okay, we have the mean. What are the median and mode? Averages can be skewed by one student missing nearly all the days and a bunch of students missing only a few.

Good math thinking there, but it likely doesn't apply here. There are 66,000 students in Detroit schools, so it would take 15,000-plus missing half of the 180 school days to drag the absence average up to 46 days each for the other 45,000 kids with perfect attendance. Tripling the interquartile range (the difference in days missed for student #15,000 and student #45,000) makes it very unlikely that there are any statistical outliers... especially since we just showed that you would need 15,000 outliers to skew a perfect-attendance record for the other 45,000... so it is close to statistically impossible that there are enough statistical outliers to make the 46-day figure misleading.

22 posted on 11/06/2013 3:33:56 PM PST by Teacher317 (Obama is failing faster than I can lower my expectations.)
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To: mreerm

Almost all US school districts mandate something between 175 and 185 days of school per year.


23 posted on 11/06/2013 3:35:07 PM PST by Teacher317 (Obama is failing faster than I can lower my expectations.)
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To: MichCapCon

“Johnson cited the statistic while discussing the problems teachers face while being evaluated when students are not coming to class.”

Lol! They couldn’t care less about the kids, it’s the teacher evaluations that they think aren’t fair.


24 posted on 11/06/2013 3:38:33 PM PST by ToastedHead
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To: Teacher317
(A minor error in my post there... I said half of the days...)

Corrected: it would take 15,000-plus missing virtually ALL of the 180 school days to drag the absence average up to 46 days each for the other 45,000 kids with perfect attendance.

(15,000 x 180 = 2,700,000... divided by all 66,000 = 40.9 days each... still shy of the 46 listed.)

So, with my error now corrected, you'd need 33,000 (ie, HALF) of the entire student body to miss HALF of the entire school year (with the other half having perfect attendance), to give a result around 46 days missed per school year.

Again, it's impossible to have any statistical outliers in a data set like this.

25 posted on 11/06/2013 3:43:35 PM PST by Teacher317 (Obama is failing faster than I can lower my expectations.)
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To: Teacher317
Detroit Public Schools:

65,971 students...

$1,237,494,733 budget (yes, that's a billion-plus for one decaying city's schools)

That's $18,758 per student... $261 more than the annual tuition for the average US university (2- or 4-year program) in 2011.

26 posted on 11/06/2013 3:50:26 PM PST by Teacher317 (Obama is failing faster than I can lower my expectations.)
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To: Teacher317

Amazing


27 posted on 11/06/2013 4:08:34 PM PST by windcliff
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To: Teacher317

Yes, he made it clear that he would LIKE to SEE....
If u don’t comply, u will not eat and we will enjoy(like) monitoring(see) your progressive starvation....


28 posted on 11/06/2013 4:11:19 PM PST by snappahead (if your gonna be dumb, you better be tough.)
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To: jumpingcholla34
"nothing good"

Depends. My wife decided to divorce her first husband after five years of marriage. But since she already had two children she waited until they were out of high school. Her children also hated their abusive father and now refuse to see him. In your case I gather the divorce happened when you were young which is unfortunate, and you have my sympathy.

29 posted on 11/06/2013 5:06:25 PM PST by driftless2
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To: MichCapCon

Hey! Give them a break, playing Midnight Basketball you’re to tired in the morning to get an education. Shorten school hours would solve the problem/ s


30 posted on 11/06/2013 5:08:48 PM PST by bikerman (Obama! if his lips are moving he's lying.)
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To: Teacher317
Again, it's impossible to have any statistical outliers in a data set like this.

I didn't use actual numbers from the student body. You are correct. More than likely it's not from outliers. It would be interesting, however, to see the median number and the mode. That would tell us much more.

31 posted on 11/06/2013 5:55:13 PM PST by IYAS9YAS (Has anyone seen my tagline? It was here yesterday. I seem to have misplaced it.)
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To: MichCapCon

Most of the union contracts around here prohibit any action to be taken at all against an employee until he has missed more than 20% (sometimes more!!!) of his scheduled time without excuse.

The teachers are union, why should the students be different?


32 posted on 11/06/2013 7:19:45 PM PST by motor_racer (Who will bell the cat?)
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To: MichCapCon

Since the kids are not going to school, just eliminate the manditory part. Let them figure it out on their own.

We’ll call it freedom to choose or on the job training.


33 posted on 11/06/2013 7:47:31 PM PST by logitech (It is time.)
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To: grumpygresh
Less indoctrination, so what’s the problem.

Less indoctrination or Lord of the Flies? A Koybayashi Maru choice.
34 posted on 11/06/2013 7:52:01 PM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: PA Engineer

I think that for those that remain in Detroit, we have the Hobson’s choice of anarchy or tyranny.


35 posted on 11/07/2013 7:08:57 AM PST by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est. New US economy: Fascism on top, Socialism on the bottom.)
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