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Egyptian Cleric ...: Islam Permits Wife Beating Only When She Refuses to Have Sex with Her Husband
Memri ^ | 2/4/2010

Posted on 05/31/2013 11:47:54 AM PDT by markomalley

Following are excerpts from an interview with Egyptian cleric Sa'd Arafat, which aired on Al-Rahma TV on February 4, 2010:

Interviewer: Would you believe that the European women in our times yearns for a husband who would be like a guardian to her. I would like to provide the viewers with some statistics. Ninety percent of British women do not want to marry a weak man, who sits down and cries the moment there is a problem. They say: No, such a man looks more like a woman. We want a manly man.

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Wife beating is a serious accusation [leveled against Islam]. Let us examine this matter bit by bit.

Sa'd Arafat: Allah honored wives by instating the punishment of beatings.

Interviewer: Honored them with beatings? How is this possible?!

Sa'd Arafat: The prophet Muhammad said: "Don't beat her in the face, and do not make her ugly." See how she is honored. If the husband beats his wife, he must not beat her in the face. Even when he beats her, he must not curse her. This is incredible! He beats her in order to discipline her.

In addition, there must not be more than ten beatings, and he must not break her bones, injure her, break her teeth, or poke her in the eye. There is a beating etiquette. If he beats to discipline her, he must not raise his hand high. He must beat her from chest level. All these things honor the woman.

She is in need of discipline. How should the husband discipline her? Through admonishment. If she is not deterred, he should refuse to share the bed with her. If she is not repentant, he should beat her, but there are rules to the beating. It is forbidden to beat her in the face or make her ugly. When you beat her, you must not curse her. Islam forbids this.

Interviewer: With what should be beat her? With his bare hand? With a rod?

Sa'd Arafat: If he beats her, the beatings should not be hard, so that they do not leave a mark. He can beat her with a short rod. He must avoid beating her in the face or in places in the head where it hurts. The beatings should be on the body and should not come one right after the other. These are all choices made during the process, but beatings are allowed only as a last resort.

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The honoring of the wife in Islam is also evident in the fact that the punishment of beating is permissible in one case only: when she refuses to sleep with him.

Interviewer: When she refuses to sleep with him?

Sa'd Arafat: Yes, because where else could the husband go? He wants her, but she refuses. He should begin with admonishment and threats...

Interviewer: Allow me to repeat this. A man cannot beat his wife...

Interviewer: ...over food or drink. Beatings are permitted only in this case, which the husband cannot do without.

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TOPICS: Religion; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: egypt; islam; jihad; moslems; muslims; religionofpieces
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Full title: Egyptian Cleric Sa'd Arafat: Islam Permits Wife Beating Only When She Refuses to Have Sex with Her Husband
1 posted on 05/31/2013 11:47:54 AM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

Dang liberals. Next thing you know he’ll be claiming she has to be over nine years old, too.


2 posted on 05/31/2013 11:51:12 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: markomalley

I wonder what NOW thinks about this.


3 posted on 05/31/2013 11:51:41 AM PDT by MNDude (Sorry for typos. Probably written on a smartphone, and I have big clumsy fingers.)
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To: markomalley

What scum these people are. Islam is a virus and needs to be eradicated.


4 posted on 05/31/2013 11:52:27 AM PDT by 'smith
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To: markomalley

This guy should be beat about his head with his own shoe ,by his wives ,for being so stupid


5 posted on 05/31/2013 11:53:56 AM PDT by molson209
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To: 'smith

ssshhhhh! You want to get arrested?
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3025888/posts


6 posted on 05/31/2013 11:54:04 AM PDT by MNDude (Sorry for typos. Probably written on a smartphone, and I have big clumsy fingers.)
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To: markomalley
Ninety percent of British women do not want to marry a weak man, who sits down and cries the moment there is a problem. They say: No, such a man looks more like a woman. We want a manly man.

Is this guy a FReeper?

7 posted on 05/31/2013 11:54:07 AM PDT by Pan_Yan (I believe in God. All else is dubious.)
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To: markomalley

I’m so glad he clarified that.


8 posted on 05/31/2013 11:54:35 AM PDT by Daveinyork (."Trusting government with power and money is like trusting teenaged boys with whiskey and car keys,)
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To: markomalley

You know, under the time pressure of an interview, a mullah can’t think of EVERYTHING. I am certain that this kind “cleric” could have listed many more worthy reasons for savaging one’s wife *if only he had more time to think”! Bob


9 posted on 05/31/2013 11:56:49 AM PDT by alstewartfan ("I always knew it was you...I just didn't take care." Al Stewart)
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To: markomalley

You know, under the time pressure of an interview, a mullah can’t think of EVERYTHING. I am certain that this kind “cleric” could have listed many more worthy reasons for savaging one’s wife *if only he had more time to think*! Bob


10 posted on 05/31/2013 11:57:41 AM PDT by alstewartfan ("I always knew it was you...I just didn't take care." Al Stewart)
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To: markomalley
There is a beating etiquette. If he beats to discipline her, he must not raise his hand high. He must beat her from chest level. All these things honor the woman.

LOL, and all this time I thought Muslim men could just, you know, indiscriminantly beat women. Now that I know there's an etiquette in place, I'm greatly relieved.

11 posted on 05/31/2013 11:59:58 AM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1)
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To: MNDude
I wonder what NOW thinks about this.

I wonder what the cows on The View think about this. Karin Johnson (Whoopie Goldberg) is one of their biggest fans . . . always ready to excuse these beatings.

12 posted on 05/31/2013 12:00:31 PM PDT by laweeks
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To: laweeks

I guess to Whoopi these aren’t beating beatings


13 posted on 05/31/2013 12:03:03 PM PDT by xp38
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To: markomalley

If she refuses that ain’t sex. It’s rape....


14 posted on 05/31/2013 12:04:51 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: markomalley
None dare call it rape.
15 posted on 05/31/2013 12:05:36 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (It is the deviants who are the bullies.)
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To: alstewartfan
I am certain that this kind “cleric” could have listed many more worthy reasons for savaging one’s wife *if only he had more time to think*!

When you say "savaging" I assume you mean "honoring" 'cause that's what the article calls it.

16 posted on 05/31/2013 12:05:47 PM PDT by Pan_Yan (I believe in God. All else is dubious.)
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To: markomalley

Who didn’t already know that? NOW siding with a misogynistic “religion” is absolutely hilarious (and sad).


17 posted on 05/31/2013 12:06:32 PM PDT by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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To: xp38

After all, she told Harpo to beat Sophia. She must be in favour of it!


18 posted on 05/31/2013 12:09:54 PM PDT by Shery (in APO Land)
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To: markomalley

I believe that Islamic societies are so brutal to their women that everyone born into the society develops PTSD, which is passed down to the next generation.

Imagine a child born into a family with a tyrannical father who routinely beats and rapes the mother (or at least believes that he may do that at will, even if he chooses not to), and who controls her every action. The mother (and the father) then groom the female children into this role of submission.

The sons repeatedly watch their mother and sisters being threatened, abused controlled and even murdered.

What are the odds that the children in such a family will grow up without severe pathologies (self loathing, misogyny, sociopathy, uncontrollable violent ragefullness and God knows what else)?

Now imagine a society in which such families are the norm and and held up by that society’s religious and legal authorities as desirable, virtuous role models.

There you have the Muslim society, in a nutshell — a generational cycle of mental derangement on a widespread scale viewed as normalcy.

P.S. Any Muslims offended by my analysis? Here’s a quarter — call Eric Holder.
P.P.S. Hey Eric Holder — EAT ME.


19 posted on 05/31/2013 12:12:05 PM PDT by Maceman (Just say "NO" to tyranny.)
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To: 'smith

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_Qpy0mXg8Y&feature=player_embedded


20 posted on 05/31/2013 12:12:27 PM PDT by 353FMG ( I do not say whether I am serious or sarcastic -- I respect FReepers too much.)
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