Posted on 03/27/2013 7:04:25 PM PDT by butterdezillion
About a week or so ago (no I don’t have the link or remember when it was or who asked the question) some reporter asked Cruz on tv if he was a NBC and Cruz smiled and said he was a US citizen.
Several reasons:
1. Some weren’t in Congress then, like Ted Cruz.
2. We have proof of crimes now; we didn’t have that before.
3. The threat of race riots seems like piddles compared to what Obama has already done to our military and looks to do to the whole country.
4. Economic collapse is inevitable anyway, if we don’t do something drastic.
5. There is now no doubt in anybody’s mind that Obama means to throw away the US Constitution.
6. Many are seeing that everything that has made America free and prosperous is up for grabs, and that is a very scary prospect. The cost of doing nothing to stop this is getting much, much higher than the cost of at least trying.
4. Rand Paul has demonstrated through the drone filibuster that conservatives are hungry for a leader and will stand with him if he has the guts to do what is necessary - and that those on the left (like Oliver Stone, for instance) who were concerned about the power of government may also cross traditional lines to defend the Constitution.
Truth is, there were people on the left who raised alarms about Constitutional issues - particularly related to unreasonable searches and seizures - when Bush was President and we should have listened to them. They said, “What if a power-grabbing tyrant comes into power and abuses this? What protections will the people have?” Makes me wonder if they knew that Obama was in the pipeline... If we conservatives will acknowledge that they were right on that issue, maybe we can form a coalition that transcends the Dem v Rep lines.
Same thing with folks like “anonymous”. While I don’t savor their techniques, I do believe they use them because they recognize that the laws have been used to hide powerful entities from justice. I don’t think they realize just how central that whole corruption bit has been used by Obama, but I think the death of that RSS guy (I forget his name) has woken them up. They did a fantastic job of exposing the corruption in Steubenville with the rape case. My big bent on the eligibility issue has been the crimes and cover-up. I probably don’t agree with the politics of the folks at “anonymous”, but I think we’re probably kindred spirits when it comes to the crimes and corruption. Why not build on that?
Same thing with Occupy Wall Street. I think they recognize that the politicians are in bed with the bankers. They just don’t know that the worst example of that is BArack Obama and his entire thug regime. The bailout went to foreign, sharia-compliant banks. The stimulus went to companies that donated to Obama’s camaign and then went bankrupt, leaving the taxpayers holding the tab. Again, I probably don’t agree with a lot of the politics of the people in OWS, but some of them are not against rich people but against the CORRUPTION that gets rich people and politicians to use each other while stiffing everybody else. We can build on that.
The people who were offended by the rape comments - a lot of that was just the media stirring the pot and misrepresenting things. But who is it who is standing with the rape victim in Steubenville? On this and so many other issues, if conservatives will have the courage to say the stuff that needs to be said, we can help people see what it means to fight for AMERICA and not just for one political side. For instance, I heard somebody in SF say that he had left Iran because they tried to tell people who they could have sex with, how, and when, and he can’t believe that the same issue is here in America (regarding the gay marriage issue). This is an issue GOPer’s are scared of. But we could be telling this guy and others like him that in Iran it was a question of whether you die, not whether you can have insurance together - and Obama has CONSTANTLY sided with the Islamists, the ones who want sharia. Benghazi was to funnel weapons to the Al Qaeda-linked “resistance” in Syria.
I know this wasn’t part of your question, but I think America needs us to focus on the essentials of what America IS, and why it is so important that she remain what she has been. If we can focus on those critical things and swallow our pride, I think we can forge alliances that screw up all the party line stuff that the establishment political machines have depended on.
The eligibility issue is a prime example of how that works. It started with Hillary supporters - against McCain and against Obama. But their point was valid, and as more evidence was available the people who love truth saw that something rotten was happening, in both parties. The rule of law transcended the political parties we all came from.
If we can learn to major in the majors we may find out that there are more who agree with us on the core principles of America than we ever thought. And the more Obama “radically transforms” America to a lawless place, the more that will be true.
Thanks for the info!
Based on your description of the event, I did some searching and discovered it was none other than Sean Hannity who asked the question!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ria4z52PgSI
Naturally, Ted Cruz is evasive about answering the question, at first, then, with the help of Hannity, both he and Cruz conclude that Cruz is a “U.S. citizen.”
LOL! Well, duh!
No one is questioning his U.S. citizenship, what we question is his Article II, Section I “Natural Born” citizenship.
Sheesh! Even Obama claims to be a “Native Citizen!” That’s more than Cruz’s claim!
And, did you see how Hannity didn’t say a word about Cruz’s father being a non-U.S. Citizen? He willfully neglected any mention at all of Cruz’s dad, and just concentrated on mom’s U.S. citizenship.
I really like Cruz, but I can’t, in all good conscience, give him a Natural Born pass.
Cheers!
Yes, that was it. My mistake, he said he is a citizen by birth. Glad I was able to cast a vote his way.
The HI statute doesn’t say who creates the new BC but I’m pretty sure it’s the HDOH itself who does, because they are the ones who would have the old documents to use for C&P, authority to issue the BC#’s, etc.
We’ll get to it later in this series, but there are 2 different levels of sloppiness in the White House image.
There is the sloppiness of what the HDOH sent Obama: misalignment, kerning, TXE, smiley face, etc.
And there is the sloppiness of the White House having to clean up what the HDOH had put in that was totally unacceptable for their purposes. That is why they had to do the layers. I suspect that the layers were used to take out stuff that the HDOH put in that didn’t work for the lie. For instance, a screwy last digit in the BC#, as a red flag. Dates with digits in a different font. Stanley Ann Dunham’s signature. Those are all things that required the different layers.
The seal is found on the same layer as the cross-hatch background. But the cross-hatch background did not come from the HDOH; it doesn’t have the necessary skew in the lines. The White House had to create the cross-hatch design with a very light “seal” on it, and use that as one layer. So there may have been something screwy with the seal, and/or a new background layer had to be made to hide the ALTERED and LATE stamps on the BC the HDOH sent.
As we’ve seen with the Sunahara death certificate, which was only done by the HDOH. Witness protection programs are not authorized in HI statute to alter DEATH certificates. And obviously there is no need to protect somebody who has already died. Those red flags were put in by the HDOH itself.
I believe the sloppiness was deliberate, in all these instances.
I believe it was deliberately sloppy because Alvin Onaka knew that it was unlawful. Because that provision only applies for somebody who was born in Hawaii, and Onaka cannot verify that Obama was born in Hawaii, as he made clear in the letter of verification for AZ SOS Ken Bennett.
Can you imagine how effective and how much integrity there could be in a Senator who knew he could never be President or Vice-President? That would be a built-in check to the natural desire for ultimate power and using his elected position as a springboard for more power.
If Cruz is willing, he could truly be God’s gift to America. All these ineligible guys could. They could do the hard work that the Presidential hopefuls will never have the guts to do.
Yup.
As much as I don’t like John McCain, at least he had enough integrity to question his own Natural Born status and have Theodore Olsen and Laurence Tribe look into it.
Interestingly enough, Tribe and Olsen keep using the term “citizen parents” (plural) when discussing children born abroad...
Cheers!
-PJ
Yes, I’m aware of that argument. However, it’s a moot point when one has been taught since childhood by EVERY single teacher or professor that BOTH parents must be U.S. citizens to confer “Natural Born” status to a child born overseas.
In talking with my 90-year-old Grandmother (a retired lawyer), she too says that she was taught all her life that BOTH parents had to be U.S. Citizens to confer Natural Born status when a child was born abroad.
It wasn’t until Obama came on the scene that such a seemingly succinct, perfect, and well-known definition was been tortured to death by everybody and his brother.
Now, it doesn’t seem to matter to anyone. Just as long as it’s “not my guy.”
Hell, if both of Cruz’s parents were non-citizens and he were born in Canada, but his great-great-great-grandparents had been U.S. citizens at one point in time, I’m sure one could drum up the appropriate “scholars” who would make claims that Cruz was Natural Born via historic bloodline.
That is all.
Over and out.
Erratum: “definition was been tortured to death” should be “definition HAS been tortured to death”
Over and out.
“EVERY single teacher or professor that BOTH parents must be U.S. citizens to confer “Natural Born” status to a child born overseas.”
There must be old civics books and history books that show that.
Do you know if anyone has ever produced such a book?
Spot on!
We need Cruz in the senate trenches, fighting against tyranny!
Pick up ANY old book you’d like. They’ve always use citizen parents in the plural when speaking about a Natural Born child who is born abroad.
By the way, prior to May 24, 1934, U.S. citizen mothers were not permitted to transmit U.S. citizenship to their children born abroad. The citizenship was conferred via their father.
So, yes, it’s in numerous old civics and history books. Go to an old library sometime and key in on the older history books. You’ll be amazed at what you thought you knew that you really didn’t know.
Cheers!
Thank you for all of your work on this.
I think of how the Republicans forced Nixon to resign. The press was all over Nixon, as well they should have been. Today we have a corrupted press and a compromised Supreme Court, and we also have the likes of McConnell and Boehner (and everybody else around them) who always seem to appear nervous in public, walking on egg shells, both looking over their shoulders every time I see them on TV, both prisoners of political correctness, afraid of being called racist by racists, afraid that 13 million blacks and who knows how many hispanics will riot in the streets if their tin god is found out to be a fraud, which they must know he is, or at least by this time, have an inkling that something is very wrong about him. I bet they don’t sleep very well at night, not worrying about Obama’s lack of eligibility necessarily, but their own legacies and how they and everybody else who knows about this will be driven out of town on rails, or so I hope, so help me God.
They should have taken care of this a long time ago when they could have nipped it in the bud, and they were too gutless to do so.
This travesty wouldn’t have happened forty years ago. People were different then.
I remember there’s one case for
“born outside the u.s. and the mom is married”
(which would apply to Cruz’s case)
and another for
“born outside the u.s. and the mom isn’t married.”
“....He may have been a US citizen ‘at birth’,but he may have also been a Canadian citizen at ‘at birth’,and a Cuban citizen ‘at birth’. It is the individual laws of those countries that determine whether or not he is a citizen of that country.......”
This is an important point you brought out.
For someone to be president, there should be no possibility that some other country can make a claim as to his citizenship.
That’s why both parents should be u.s. citizens before the child is born; no means of exerting influence.
I.e. the foreign country can’t say to the parents ‘we don’t care whether you’re a resident alien of the u.s, you’re still a citizen of our country
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