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LA Cop Christopher Dorner Is Not the First American to Be Hunted by Drones on US Soil
Vice ^ | February 11, 2013 | Brian Anderson

Posted on 02/11/2013 2:48:04 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

For all we know, it could be happening right now--high above the pine line a robot hovers, looking down. On suspicions that at-large cop vigilante Christopher Dorner is holed up east of Los Angeles in the rugged and snowy San Bernardino Mountains, law enforcement officials have apparently taken to aerial spy drones, in addition to ramping up drone surveillance along the Mexico border, to find the man.

Word of the move broke this weekend in a report in the Express. An unnamed senior police source told the British outlet that certain drone-ready thermal imaging capabilities may offer the only hope for pinpointing Dorner, who's wanted in connection to the recent shooting deaths of a police officer in Riverside and of a former police chief's daughter and fiancé. "On the ground, it's like looking for a needle in a haystack," the official added. On Saturday, the report continues, as some 125 officers canvassed Big Bear Lake for the "Rambo-style" Naval reservist and former Los Angeles cop, "it was revealed that Dorner has become the first human target for remotely-controlled airborne drones on US soil."

And just like that, breathless tweeting and sub-thread chatter alike were off to the races. You know that cop killer Dorner? He's the first person ever to be tracked by drones on American soil. It was a provocative, if dire claim. And it still is. But is it true?

If in fact drones are being used here, it's hard to say what kind. The Express article makes no mention as to what sort of spy bird authorities are relying on to survey tracts of wilderness for a lone human with survivalist training (and who's promising to wage asymmetrical warfare on the police, to boot).(continued)

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TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Military/Veterans; Politics
KEYWORDS: chrisdorner; drones; obama; wot

1 posted on 02/11/2013 2:48:17 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sucks having the criminals in charge.


2 posted on 02/11/2013 2:57:34 PM PST by bicyclerepair (Zombies Eat Brains. Half of FL is safe.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Next step:

Install implants in Obamacare befit recipients with RFID which transmits a strong enough signal that can be picked up by armed surveillance drones.
No need to rely on thermal optics if the pass over or nearby him.

Taxes not paid; tickets not paid? No problem. Obamacare benefits recipients are linked to their bank accounts in the program. Drone reads their RFID and extracts the money automatically. If the recipient hasn’t paid for an extended time it goes before the death panel committee which will be comprised of humans first then later decided automatically by a computer whether the drone takes you out based on a point system. Politicians are eempt from the database and being targeted because they aren’t in the system.


3 posted on 02/11/2013 2:59:52 PM PST by jsanders2001
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Next step:

Install implants in Obamacare befit recipients with RFID which transmits a strong enough signal that can be picked up by armed surveillance drones. No need to rely on thermal optics if the pass over or nearby him.

Taxes not paid; tickets not paid? No problem. Obamacare benefits recipients are linked to their bank accounts in the program. Drone reads their RFID chip and extracts the money automatically. If the recipient hasn’t paid for an extended time it goes before the death panel committee which will be comprised of humans first then later decided automatically by a computer whether the drone takes you out based on a point system. Politicians are exempt from the database and being targeted because they aren’t in the system.


4 posted on 02/11/2013 3:02:26 PM PST by jsanders2001
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Next step:

Install implants in Obamacare befit recipients with RFID which transmits a strong enough signal that can be picked up by armed surveillance drones. No need to rely on thermal optics if they pass over or nearby him.

Taxes not paid; tickets not paid? No problem. Obamacare benefits recipients are linked to their bank accounts in the program. Drone reads their RFID chip and extracts the money automatically. If the recipient hasn’t paid for an extended time it goes before the death panel committee which will be comprised of humans first then later decided automatically by a computer whether the drone takes you out based on a point system. Politicians are exempt from the database and being targeted because they aren’t in the system.


5 posted on 02/11/2013 3:02:48 PM PST by jsanders2001
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To: jsanders2001

You must feel strongly about this.


6 posted on 02/11/2013 3:19:12 PM PST by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Where the hell is Eric Holder and the obozo since this guy is black and according to Holder when he referred to the Black Panther thugs, “as our people?” Doesn't this guy's blackness count to get him off for breaking any of whitey's laws?
7 posted on 02/11/2013 3:21:01 PM PST by drypowder
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So far the Tacoma police have shot up a blue pickup truck with two women in it, and a black pickup with a skinny white guy in it looking for a grey truck with a fat black guy.

What good are cameras in the sky if the police don’t know how to use their eyes anyway?


8 posted on 02/11/2013 3:41:36 PM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: jsanders2001

That system is called “The Number of the Beast” in the Bible.


9 posted on 02/11/2013 3:47:19 PM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: drypowder

He may be black, but he is not Muslim, so he is not their people.


10 posted on 02/11/2013 3:48:36 PM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I'm sure they will do a fine job with their new toys (drones), like they have done already with their old toys.

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Just think how much more effective these lawmen could be with drones...
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11 posted on 02/11/2013 3:53:31 PM PST by Bon mots (Abu Ghraib: 47 Times on the front page of the NY Times | Benghazi: 2 Times)
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To: Menehune56; jsanders2001

And I say it sounds just about right and needs to be posted more than once.


12 posted on 02/11/2013 3:58:13 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: Menehune56; jsanders2001

You must feel strongly about this.

********

:)


13 posted on 02/11/2013 4:02:59 PM PST by JouleZ (You are the company you keep.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"...An unnamed senior police source told the British outlet that certain drone-ready thermal imaging capabilities may offer the only hope for pinpointing Dorner..."

The one flaw with the American justice system is that before drones with thermal imaging, there was no hope for pinpointing fugitives; apparently our law enforcement was hopeless prior to the dawn of this new technology, but now, in the age of Obama, hope abounds!

14 posted on 02/11/2013 4:06:21 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“...holed up east of Los Angeles in the rugged and snowy San Bernardino Mountains”

Why do they think that. Why would he torch his truck...essentially sending out an ‘I’m here’ beacon, unless he was about to exit the area? If I were to bet, I’d say the one place he absolutely is not, is anywhere in those mountains near his burning truck.


15 posted on 02/11/2013 4:36:07 PM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Dorner is not a vigilante. He is a cold blooded killer.
16 posted on 02/11/2013 5:18:23 PM PST by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; MestaMachine; thouworm; Rushmore Rocks; Oorang; dragonblustar; jersey117; ...
. More from the article:

The US's borders with Mexico and Canada have for years been watched by hulking surveillance drones.

In 2011, law enforcement in North Dakota called in an Air Force Predator drone to assist in the arrest of a sovereigntist family who were refusing to let cops onto their property after stealing some cows from a neighbor.

That episode--if you want to put numbers on all this--was the first official instance of drones being used to spy on humans on American soil. It's a landmark case that as of August 2012 was upheld by a North Dakota court.

But let's be real. It's not just bad guys--as of last year, US military drone pilots were running surveillance-training exercises on unknowing civilians in the American southwest.

17 posted on 02/11/2013 5:59:35 PM PST by LucyT (In the 20th century 280 million people were killed by their own governments.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Bump


18 posted on 02/11/2013 6:04:28 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

From the article:

“...the LAPD just posted a $1 million reward for information leading to Dorner’s capture—the biggest reward of its kind ever posted in the region. California, of course, is an incubator for hobbyist droners. Not like they should liftoff their DIY drones, or anything, without the reasonable expectation of getting into serious shitstorms with authorities and, potentially, Dorner himself. But don’t be surprised when you hear about it happening.”

Great. Offer $1 million for info leading to Dorner’s capture and what will creative, opportunistic Americans do? They will put up their own DIY drones and try to find Dorner themselves and damn the anti-drone regs!


19 posted on 02/11/2013 6:35:18 PM PST by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: lacrew

-“...holed up east of Los Angeles in the rugged and snowy San Bernardino Mountains”

Why do they think that. Why would he torch his truck...


The information that they have let the public know.

His truck had a broken axle.
He was a service road use by local ski resorts for lift maintenance. .
His family had a cabin in Big Bear and he knew the area.
They found two guns left in the truck. AR15 is what I think they said.

This area is also a popular summer resort and about half the cabins are empty this time of year.

He burnt the truck to hide evidence that he could not carry with him when his truck unexpectedly broke it’s axle.

I guessing that they think it was unexpected because of the guns he had to leave.

Other evidence to think he is not in the area.

There are foot trails in the area including the PCT Pacific Crest Trail that he could hike off the mountain on. He had time to hike down before the heavy snow started.

There would be many other people on the trails this time of year, but enough that he would be seen. He left the two gun in the truck so he could hike down the mountain.

This part what I heard on local radio and part living in the area. I hiked have other trails near this area but not in Big Bear area.


20 posted on 02/11/2013 6:37:21 PM PST by ThomasThomas
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To: Seizethecarp

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21 posted on 02/11/2013 6:45:30 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: ThomasThomas

In the 60’s and early 70’s I spent many weekends there as a Boy Scout (as well as Joshua Tree) and we did a family Christmas there in 1973, IIRC.


22 posted on 02/11/2013 6:48:07 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: LucyT; jsanders2001

Thanks for the ping; posts. Worth three-peating. Possible permutations of totalitarianism ALERT.


23 posted on 02/11/2013 7:05:51 PM PST by PGalt
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yup! A cheap GPS autopilot guided autonomous drone could get you a $1 million reward if you can find Dorner.

As Martha McCallum said the other day “There’s a whole lot of droning going on”...and budding wannabe terrorists can’t help but notice. (see my tag) Talk about Pandora’s Box!


24 posted on 02/11/2013 7:08:31 PM PST by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: ThomasThomas

The thing I still don’t understand is the torching of the truck. What evidence could he have possibly hid by burning the truck? If its still got a vin, the police can easily figure out the truck is connected to him. So why torch it and draw alot of attention to it?

Once a local bank was robbed...and I swear every cop in the area converged on the bank. They hung around for hours. I chuckled because there was one place in the world that the robber certainly was not....and that is where the cops all were. I wonder if this guy used that tendency to his advantage....and torched the truck after he figured out a quick path out of there.


25 posted on 02/11/2013 8:18:18 PM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: Menehune56

> You must feel strongly about this.

Most of the time I’m just jesting however I’ve seen technology married with profit paid for by our own taxex to pickpocket us even further so much in the last 10 years that it doesnt take much of a visionary to look further down the road where this is headed. If the forefathers were alive today I’m sure there would be laboratories and government offices torched and burnt to the ground and I can’t say I wouldn’t blame them...


26 posted on 02/11/2013 10:55:49 PM PST by jsanders2001
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To: American in Israel

good point but I doubt Holder would claim that a white Muslim is his people.


27 posted on 02/12/2013 8:12:15 AM PST by drypowder
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