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Want a Pro-Growth Pro-Environment Plan? Economists Agree: Tax Carbon.
Brookings Institute ^ | 2-7-2013 | Adele Morris

Posted on 02/08/2013 6:07:57 AM PST by Sir Napsalot

In his recent inaugural address, President Obama promised that “we will respond to the threat of climate change, ..... But America cannot resist this transition; we must lead it. We cannot cede to other nations the technology that will power new jobs and new industries – we must claim its promise. That is how we will maintain our economic vitality and our national treasure – our forests and waterways; our croplands and snowcapped peaks. That is how we will preserve our planet…” When pressed on the specifics of what the president means to do on climate, his spokesperson replied: “We have not proposed and have no intention of proposing a carbon tax.”

The president has a problem, and he’s not alone. Many policymakers who are compelled by the consensus of scientists on the risk of global climate disruption seem willfully oblivious to the peer-reviewed economic research on what to do about it. Indeed, they completely ignore the remarkable consensus of economists – a group that often isn’t unanimous on important policy options, ..... In this case, though, economists nearly universally agree that, while basic energy research and development remain an important role of government, a price on carbon would minimize the cost of steering economic activity away from the greenhouse gas emissions that threaten the climate. .....

In fact, in a survey of about 40 prominent economists from across the profession, 90% agreed with this statement: “A tax on the carbon content of fuels would be a less expensive way to reduce carbon-dioxide emissions than would a collection of policies such as ‘corporate average fuel economy’ requirements for automobiles.”[1] When weighted by the level confidence the respondents had in their answers, the agreement rose to 95%.

(Excerpt) Read more at brookings.edu ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: carbontax; dncrico; fanniemaerico; globalwarmingfraud; greenscam; notransparency; patent6904336; rico; secretdeals; specialdeals
FYI - (Author)Adele Morris is a fellow and the policy director for the Climate and Energy Economics Project. She focuses on the economics of climate change and related energy and natural resource policies.

(More from the article) "Another survey of the same prominent economists referred to a Brookings Institution description of a U.S. carbon tax of $20 per ton, increasing at 4% per year, which would raise an estimated $150 billion per year in federal revenues over the next decade.[2] A remarkable 98% of the surveyed economists, again weighted by confidence, agreed with this statement: “Given the negative externalities created by carbon dioxide emissions, a federal carbon tax at this rate would involve fewer harmful net distortions to the U.S. economy than a tax increase that generated the same revenue by raising marginal tax rates on labor income across the board.”[3] In other words, using a carbon tax to reduce the budget deficit or reduce other, more burdensome, taxes makes all the economic sense in the world. .... This pro-growth, pro-environment strategy would also obviate more costly regulations, subsidies, and mandates to reduce emissions and give the United States standing to call for equivalent measures abroad."

"The president and others should recognize the strong consensus of experts whose life’s work is to understand markets: the best way to reduce greenhouse gas emissions is through a permanent and predictable price on carbon and responsible management of the revenue. Policymakers globally should not deny the overwhelming judgment of economists, even as they respect the overwhelming judgment of climate scientists. On this issue, we’re nearly all one-handed. "

1 posted on 02/08/2013 6:08:05 AM PST by Sir Napsalot
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To: Sir Napsalot

Is there anything that taxes won’t fix??? That is their go-to solution for everything.


2 posted on 02/08/2013 6:10:21 AM PST by BipolarBob (Happy Hunger Games! May the odds be ever in your favor.)
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To: Sir Napsalot
THE REAL DEAL (never to be touched by the MSM. Never. Ever.):

Patent 6904336 on Carbon Credits is held by Fannie Mae and the DNC.

3 posted on 02/08/2013 6:10:49 AM PST by Diogenesis (De Oppresso Liber)
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To: Sir Napsalot
responsible management of the revenue

another bad joke in this article. The carbon dioxide tax would filter down to everybody even the poor folks who can't afford it but the government would spend the money more responsibly? BS.

4 posted on 02/08/2013 6:16:58 AM PST by MulberryDraw (That which cannot be paid, won't be paid.)
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To: Sir Napsalot

California enacted the CARB tax this year. Stay tuned...


5 posted on 02/08/2013 6:19:17 AM PST by Huskrrrr
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To: MulberryDraw

Monetizing thin air.

Just think how easily that could be manipulated and used against those who step out of line.


6 posted on 02/08/2013 6:20:40 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Sir Napsalot

So, just how does taking the lifeblood of the economy promote growth of that economy?


7 posted on 02/08/2013 6:25:26 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Sir Napsalot
In fact, in a survey of about 40 prominent economists from across the profession, 90% agreed with this statement: “A tax on the carbon content of fuels would be a less expensive way to reduce carbon-dioxide emissions than would a collection of policies such as ‘corporate average fuel economy’ requirements for automobiles.”[1] When weighted by the level confidence the respondents had in their answers, the agreement rose to 95%.

What a misleading title by the source. I was getting ready to bad mouth economists, then I saw that they were forced to choose the lesser of two evils.

8 posted on 02/08/2013 6:27:51 AM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Sir Napsalot

In related News: HUD Secretary Shaun Donovan released a study proving that holding your breath improves athletic performance.


9 posted on 02/08/2013 6:31:40 AM PST by dblshot (I am John Galt.)
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To: BipolarBob

>>> Is there anything that taxes won’t fix???

That is only one half of the solution, the other half is to have public trust in gubmint handling the ‘solution’ part.


10 posted on 02/08/2013 6:33:03 AM PST by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: Moonman62
Why not tax liberal flatulence...
11 posted on 02/08/2013 6:33:03 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (NRA Life Member)
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To: Sir Napsalot
Odd definition of "growth"...

...economists are highly skeptical that clean energy subsidies and mandates will create jobs on net over the long run. New technology that involves more jobs than the technology it replaces is likely to be more expensive. So in the absence of a tax on carbon emissions, cleaner alternatives to fossil fuels will require persistent federal subsidies, money that has to come from somewhere. And even if energy technologies become export strengths of the United States, international trade tends to reallocate rather than add or subtract overall jobs in the economy.

12 posted on 02/08/2013 6:36:50 AM PST by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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"Pro-growth... Tax carbon?"

Gee, let's see... Taxing carbon will increase prices on EVERYTHING!!! The only thing that will grow will be poverty!

Frankly, there may be some increase in tax revenues as people have to pay more in taxes on everything they need. On the other hand, it could potentially wreck the economy, as people cut back on EVERYTHING ELSE! If they don't absolutely NEED it now, they won't buy it.

I wonder what segments of the economy this will wreck, and how many businesses will be put out of business?

Mark

13 posted on 02/08/2013 6:50:55 AM PST by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: Sir Napsalot

If you want more of something, growth for instance, the last thing you would do is tax it.


14 posted on 02/08/2013 6:51:18 AM PST by frogjerk (Obama Claus is coming to town!)
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To: Wyatt's Torch

The same oddness as ‘new revenue’?


15 posted on 02/08/2013 6:53:09 AM PST by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: Diogenesis
And I seem to recall reading that had "Cap & Trade" gone through, thanks to his investments in certain companies, Gore was set to become the world's first "Carbon Billionaire."

Mark

16 posted on 02/08/2013 6:54:24 AM PST by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: Moonman62

Good observation. Nowhere in the column does the author provide evidence to support the headline. All he does is provide surveys of economists that say that a carbon tax would be less harmful than raising other taxes. Not the same as a “Pro-Growth Plan”.


17 posted on 02/08/2013 7:08:23 AM PST by DeprogramLiberalism
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To: Sir Napsalot

Orwell would be proud of these clowns... It’s simply amazing to watch their manipulation of the language and people buy into it. Scratch that. It’s scary as hell to watch.


18 posted on 02/08/2013 7:14:16 AM PST by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Take a look at the founding of Brookings. Frederic A. Delano was one of the incorporators. Financed by the foundations from the get go. Brookings was a tycoon and the right hand man of Baruch on the War Industries Board during WWI. Brookings merged it with the Institute for Government Research and the Institute of Economics in 1927. IGR’s first project had been to push for a Federal budget, in which it was successful.

Hoover still produces a report, Setting National Priorities, which analyzes the President’s Budget.

Look all over the web and you’ll find people lamenting that Brookings was once “liberal” and now it’s increasingly “conservative”, which is laughable.

Brookings was and is yet another front for new world order of international banking whose original and current goal is passing commands from new world order to US politicians.


19 posted on 02/08/2013 7:47:35 AM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: PieterCasparzen
Brookings used to be ‘slightly left’ (:-), don't be mad). Now it has been downhill as far as “think tank” goes.

But the same thing could be said of National Review, for example, or similar mag/rag.

20 posted on 02/08/2013 8:00:07 AM PST by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: Sir Napsalot

we have passed the age of steel.

We are in the age of carbon composits.

This is like taxing each steel girder or ingot.

(think mob tax)

This is just a way to create a new currency based on creation. A property tax.

The next step will be a thought tax.

Remember those 3d printers? This is a way to tax the raw material since they can’t trace objects.


21 posted on 02/08/2013 8:13:16 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Sir Napsalot
At least the motivation behind the Great Global Warming Hoax is finally starting to bubble to the surface for all to see. For the leftist politicians it has always been about just one thing... redistributing the wealth through a tax system that people will support to “save the planet”. Now we learn that “95% of economists” believe that raising taxes on energy will be good for the economy also.

Never mind that even the conspirators in the “climategate” scandals agree that there has been no “statistically significant warming” in the last 16 years. Never mind that every disaster predicting computer model based on the assumption that increasing CO2 are increasing world wide temperatures has been shown to be wildly inaccurate. It doesn't matter because further increasing the price of energy through taxation will be good for us all.

I think that they are overplaying their hand. Our power company gives us a graph of our energy usage for the past year along with information on the average temperature for the previous month as compared to the corresponding month a year ago. In our area this data shows that over the past decade our average temperatures have been declining. That is because the data that the power company is using has not been skewed by “scientists” working for government agencies with an agenda. The same is true in most parts of the country.

Temperatures 80 years ago were warmer than they are today. Since that time we had a cyclic decline in temperatures and then an increase, then another decline, another increase and then a leveling off or decline depending on where you live for the past decade or so.

Most of the “warming” shock headlines originating from government agencies have been manufactured by manipulating data from both recent and earlier times. When they get called on it... they issue a partial retraction which is almost never reported in the major media. People are starting to pick up on this; when you mix in articles like this one which show the true motivation behind it... it is going to seriously erode people's confidence in what they are being told.

The climate is cyclic and it is likely we will see a continuation of the warming trend that started at the end of the little ice age a couple of hundred years ago. But I cringe at graphs produced using manipulated data that make it appear that we have had warming outside of normal natural variation. You would think that just the fact that the average rate of rise in the sea level has not changed in hundreds of years would be enough to convince most sober minds that we have yet to see anything out of the ordinary.

22 posted on 02/08/2013 8:22:11 AM PST by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: Sir Napsalot

The carbon tax is nothing but a VAT tax structure. Given who is pushing this gives me no comfort on their assurances that it will be good, experience tells us it just the opposite. Given how this will permeate through every sector of the economy and at multiple levels within each sector, the potential of absolute disaster is a given. Noting that the people who push this are all about control or are completely incompetent, disaster is assured.


23 posted on 02/08/2013 9:06:39 AM PST by DarkWaters ("Deception is a state of mind --- and the mind of the state" --- James Jesus Angleton)
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To: DarkWaters

My son is a business major. We talked about fixing the economy. He had two suggestions.

1. Scrap Obamacare.
2. Reduce corporate taxes to zero for those companies that produce materials made only in the USA.


24 posted on 02/08/2013 9:16:35 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (I own a weapon to protect my family from those wanting to take that weapon away.)
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