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U.S. Postal Service – "We’re Making Doing Business More Difficult!"
The Nav Log ^ | 1/30/13 | ip5683

Posted on 01/30/2013 11:42:46 AM PST by pabianice

The bankrupt USPS's business plan includes making business more difficult.

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So today I went to my local post office to buy stamps. I gave the clerk my credit card, which I have “signed” with “See Picture ID.” No doing. You see, the Postal Service has decided that they will not accept credit cards asking for your driver’s license or Military ID or Police ID. No. The Postmaster has decided that this is “too risky.” Rather, your credit card has to be signed with your name for them to accept it. Because you may be using the photo ID of someone who is your double while you are up to no good buying envelopes. Or something.

Your Federal Government at work – making your life more difficult.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: usps

1 posted on 01/30/2013 11:42:52 AM PST by pabianice
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To: pabianice

You were instructed by your credit card provider to sign the card.


2 posted on 01/30/2013 11:45:08 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: pabianice

Ummm alot of private firms won’t accept an unsigned credit card either.


3 posted on 01/30/2013 11:47:45 AM PST by XRdsRev (New Jersey - Crossroads of the American Revolution)
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To: pabianice

They will, however, accept your check.


4 posted on 01/30/2013 11:47:57 AM PST by ruesrose (The Anchor Holds)
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To: pabianice

Show the postal inspector your voter registration card and tell him it is good enough ID for Obambi...


5 posted on 01/30/2013 11:48:04 AM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: pabianice
The bankrupt USPS's business plan includes making business more difficult.

I sent a package to my daughter in Europe. The price went from $52 a couple months ago to $77. Quite a hike.

6 posted on 01/30/2013 11:49:24 AM PST by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: muawiyah
You were instructed by your credit card provider to sign the card.

True. But virtually every article I've ever read on fraud protection tells you not to because then a thief would not only have your credit card, but know how to forge your signature as well. I've never heard of any business turning down a card because it wasn't signed (heck most don't even bother looking to see if it's signed). But I suppose legally, they have the right to do it.

7 posted on 01/30/2013 11:50:16 AM PST by apillar
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To: muawiyah

And being good sheep, we should sign them, No?

Mine say ‘Check ID’, only.

When asked to show my ID, I Always thank the person asking.

My cards have not been refused.

Go Baaaa somewhere else.


8 posted on 01/30/2013 11:50:42 AM PST by RoadGumby (This is not where I belong, Take this world and give me Jesus.)
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To: pabianice

I walked in to a post office with a $5 bill to buy, like, 10 Christmas stamps.

They wouldn’t sell the individual stamps. They said I had to buy a whole book at a time.

All I had on me was the $5, so, I had to leave.


9 posted on 01/30/2013 11:50:42 AM PST by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: pabianice

If it turns out that your credit card is stolen and is used, if the company follows the procedures it has to, than it won’t be on the hook for the cost of the stolen merchandise, the credit card company will take the hit.

However, if the company doesn’t follow the procedure that it has to, in regards to credit cards and it turns out that the card is stolen, the company has to take the hit for the fraudalent purchase.

You should still sign the credit card, but you can write after your signature, for the clerk to check for identification.


10 posted on 01/30/2013 11:53:34 AM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: pabianice

I’ve just spent 30 minutes on their website trying to find a simple chart with the postal rates for letters. You can look up a rate for each individual thing you wish to mail, but a simple chart for the most often mailed letters by ounce seems to be not available.


11 posted on 01/30/2013 11:54:12 AM PST by texas_mrs
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To: RoadGumby

Then buy your stamps at the grocery store.


12 posted on 01/30/2013 11:54:44 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: RoadGumby
Mine say ‘Check ID’, only. When asked to show my ID, I Always thank the person asking. My cards have not been refused.

I've had the same experience...

Mine says "See ID", I always thank the person asking me for the ID, and I've never been refused.
13 posted on 01/30/2013 11:55:06 AM PST by BikerJoe
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To: pabianice

It may have looked like the letters in "See photo ID" but whos to say thats not your siggy?!

14 posted on 01/30/2013 11:57:00 AM PST by Casie (Chuck Norris 2016)
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To: BikerJoe

Checking your identification still doesn’t protect the company or the credit card company from fraudulant purchases.

I’ve had to deal with customers, who have made purchases and their identification was checked, but they called in to the credit card company later on to deny that they made such a purchase. They only thing that protects the company in that situation is whether it followed the procedures set out by the credit card company.


15 posted on 01/30/2013 11:59:17 AM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: texas_mrs

Standard Mail has all sorts of limitations and requirements ~ so if you were looking for a simple chart THERE AIN’T ONE. Try https://www.usps.com/ship/first-class.htm for First Class Mail ~ press DOWNLOAD PRICING FILE!


16 posted on 01/30/2013 12:00:19 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Persevero

If the post office was smart, they would be willing to sell individual stamps, marking those individual stamps up by a couple of cents to account for the fact that they are not being sold by the book.


17 posted on 01/30/2013 12:02:44 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: FatherofFive

I sold a print to someone in Germany and it cost me $79 to send it there.

Cheer up, though; if I would have sent it via UPS, the price would have been over $400!!


18 posted on 01/30/2013 12:04:36 PM PST by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: pabianice

Our Motto
“We don’t care
We don’t have to care
We’re the US Post Office”


19 posted on 01/30/2013 12:09:02 PM PST by BipolarBob (Happy Hunger Games! May the odds be ever in your favor.)
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To: pabianice

I had someone give me the advice to write “See ID” in the place where your signature goes. It states clearly on the card, however, that your signature goes there, nothing else, so I sign it.


20 posted on 01/30/2013 12:16:58 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: FatherofFive

I’ve been sending stuff to Germany and Afghanistan to my daugther and son in law. Package pricing is rarely above 15 dollars and I use priority mail, often the flat rates. I wonder why yours is so much. My stuff before Christmas got to AFG in under two weeks.


21 posted on 01/30/2013 12:25:44 PM PST by merry10
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To: muawiyah
THANK YOU! That's what I was looking for. Don't know why they don't make a link to it a priority right after they've changed the rates.
I appreciate your help!
22 posted on 01/30/2013 12:27:38 PM PST by texas_mrs
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To: Jonty30

I have always been able to buy individual stamps before. I have bought 1 and 2 cent stamps before, when needed.


23 posted on 01/30/2013 12:41:18 PM PST by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: pabianice
Must be your P.O.

I swipe my card...at the counter. They never look at my card.

I give them the last 4 digits of the card...and that's it.

24 posted on 01/30/2013 12:48:51 PM PST by Osage Orange (MOLON LAVE)
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To: BipolarBob
I've shipped thousands of items worldwide...via the USPS.

I don't work for them...and don't like many things about them. But...I've had very little problems with them. In fact personally I give them praise....for the service they give me.

25 posted on 01/30/2013 12:52:52 PM PST by Osage Orange (MOLON LAVE)
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To: Persevero
I walked in to a post office with a $5 bill to buy, like, 10 Christmas stamps.

They wouldn’t sell the individual stamps. They said I had to buy a whole book at a time.

The only stamps they can tear off and sell individually are the ones you have to lick to stick. They can't break apart packs of the self-adhesive stamps. If you didn't need Christmas stamps they could have sold you individual stamps.

26 posted on 01/30/2013 12:55:04 PM PST by KarlInOhio (Choose one: the yellow and black flag of the Tea Party or the white flag of the Republican Party.)
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To: Osage Orange

Over the past thirty years I’ve dealt with 2 different POs. Night and Day. One was openly hostile and bullied customers. I had a mailman not deliver a check for two months after I sent it. I had to send a second check which got there before the first one. After the mailman got fired, they found undelivered mail in the area. The second PO has been good to me.


27 posted on 01/30/2013 12:57:35 PM PST by BipolarBob (Happy Hunger Games! May the odds be ever in your favor.)
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To: merry10; FatherofFive
I’ve been sending stuff to Germany and Afghanistan to my daugther and son in law. Package pricing is rarely above 15 dollars and I use priority mail, often the flat rates. I wonder why yours is so much. My stuff before Christmas got to AFG in under two weeks.

Were you sending it directly to Germany and Afghanistan or to an APO/FPO address here in the states? If you sent it APO or FPO then the military handles it rather than the post office shipping it overseas and putting it into the local mail system.

28 posted on 01/30/2013 12:59:56 PM PST by KarlInOhio (Choose one: the yellow and black flag of the Tea Party or the white flag of the Republican Party.)
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To: XRdsRev

A signed credit card makes it so much easier for an ID thief to clone your signature on other documents as he applies for more credit.

20 + year veteran investigating fraud


29 posted on 01/30/2013 1:00:41 PM PST by jsanders2001
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To: BipolarBob
Our Motto “We don’t care "We don’t have to care" "We’re the "
30 posted on 01/30/2013 1:03:02 PM PST by jsanders2001
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To: BipolarBob
I live in a small town.....They are great.

But a larger town is 30 miles from me...and they are generally flat to rude.

FWIW-

31 posted on 01/30/2013 1:04:30 PM PST by Osage Orange (MOLON LAVE)
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To: pabianice

All of us aging white dudes look alike, anyway! < /sarc >


32 posted on 01/30/2013 1:04:30 PM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: merry10
I’ve been sending stuff to Germany and Afghanistan to my daugther and son in law. Package pricing is rarely above 15 dollars and I use priority mail, often the flat rates. I wonder why yours is so much. My stuff before Christmas got to AFG in under two weeks.

This is the pricing from the USPS website. it is still a good deal, but they jacked the rates almost 50% from a montha ago.

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33 posted on 01/30/2013 1:11:23 PM PST by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: texas_mrs
Having worked in the shop where part of the job was actually promulgating postage rates, I know a bit about this ~ Rate Commission issues decision and you get 10 days before you can publish the new rates. There are also always rule changes so somebody ~ meaning folks in that shop ~ will need to review virtually the entire Domestic Mail Manual (500 pages or thereabouts) in detail to make sure anything published is, in fact, the exact language needed.

There are usually 5 to 12 people directly involved in this since more means you lengthen your chains of communication making the job longer!

In the good old days we didn't have electronic memory available to help us ~ now they have plenty of it to get in the way!

Then you stay awake most of the 10 days ~ and you get the revised rules published in the Federal Register (which is a separate task and that starts about 4 days from the end of the 10 day period of performance).

Looking at this they've gone into the on-line version of the rules and cranked in the rates under the EXISTING structure. That will change in a week or so after a totally new website is rebuilt ~ with a vast amount of proofreading by the world's foremost experts in postal rules.

So, thank goodness I am retired now ~ I think I went through this nearly a dozen times over the years ~ and once it's done you have piddling little edit corrections over the next 6 months ~ as people read your stuff and figure out everything wrong you did.

Top level Postal management thinks this is far simpler than it is and give no extra credit for it ~ which is why they usually burn out a rule writer in less than 5 years.

This is why I know what happened to Tony Weiner ~ he burned out then flipped out and then started sending e-mails of his packages!

It can happen.

34 posted on 01/30/2013 1:12:39 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: pabianice
Buy your stamps from your grocery clerk or pharmacy clerk.
Why in the world would you buy them at the post office, are you a sadist?
35 posted on 01/30/2013 1:13:14 PM PST by Average Al
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To: FatherofFive
The answer is you are actually mailing to an APO or FPO. That's at Domestic Mail rates. The other folks are mailing to a country ~ under International Mail rates.

In effect our GI Joes and Janes get a taxpayer subsidized delivery service ~ but you pay the average freight to the office inside the USA which transfers that mail to the custody of the military!

BTW, just because you can associate an APO number with a foreign city or area or an FPO with a ship, that doesn't mean the individual is even there. A common military practice is to give you an APO number that has nothing to do with your location. Then, unbeknownst to anybody in USPS, or with the mailers, or you, or them, arrange to transfer that mail to the right place ~ which keeps specific assignments almost secret.

36 posted on 01/30/2013 1:18:32 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Average Al

I think you would have to be a sadist to go to the post office. On rare occasions when I must go there I experience something even rarer...sympathy for government union workers. Never more than one clerk on duty while the line stretches out the door and halfway to Toledo. Can’t figure out how she’s supposed to take a bathroom break, while many in line start to get awfully grumpy.


37 posted on 01/30/2013 1:56:03 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog

I’ve noticed it doesn’t matter if there is a line around the block or not. When the feed bell or break comes they
just lock the drawer and walk away.


38 posted on 01/30/2013 2:23:42 PM PST by Average Al
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To: merry10
I’ve been sending stuff to Germany and Afghanistan to my daugther and son in law. Package pricing is rarely above 15 dollars and I use priority mail, often the flat rates. I wonder why yours is so much. My stuff before Christmas got to AFG in under two weeks.



Those Flat Rate Boxes are only good with in the United States . The only reason you were able to use them for Germany and Afghanistan is that you are mailing to an APO address and that is considered like mailing with in the United States - only difference is that you also have to add the customs declaration .

People in the service get APO addresses so when you are mailing to them it is the same rate . Now say it is your son that is in the service and your daughter in law is not in the service and she works in a store in Berlin and you want to mail her a package directly to the store she works at .Then you would not be able to use that box anymore as that store does not have an APO address and that 15.00 package would now cost you what ever rate a normal package that size and weight was to that area.

39 posted on 01/30/2013 3:42:22 PM PST by Lera (Proverbs 29:2)
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To: muawiyah

Your last sentence=VERY FUNNY! LOL


40 posted on 01/30/2013 4:48:01 PM PST by simonjo
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To: FatherofFive

No. I mailed a large flat rate yesterday.


41 posted on 01/30/2013 7:29:24 PM PST by merry10
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To: FatherofFive

No. I mailed a large flat rate yesterday.


42 posted on 01/30/2013 7:29:30 PM PST by merry10
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To: muawiyah

How about I don’t buy stamps.


43 posted on 01/31/2013 4:57:42 AM PST by RoadGumby (This is not where I belong, Take this world and give me Jesus.)
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To: texas_mrs

It took me a while to find it, but it’s there:

http://pe.usps.com/text/dmm300/Notice123.htm#1012541


44 posted on 01/31/2013 5:02:31 AM PST by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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