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To: AnonymousConservative

Regarding r/K. It is interesting that typical liberal behavior is to reproduce like rabbits, favoring promiscuity and single parenting and the “rights” of welfare recipients to have as many children as possible, yet they are the ones preaching doom and gloom about the carrying capacity of the earth. On the other hand, liberal “elites” often have few children and behave much more like K-types. And the stereotypical “bitter clinger” has a large family.

I think you can look at “reproduction” in another way, too, not just as physically reproducing. Think about reproduction as “converting” someone to your view, i.e., changing a liberal into a conservative or vice versa. Do we use the careful high investment nurturing method while they are using the scattershot promiscuous method? I think so. They get to use the schools and the media while we carefully raise our children and logically debate points with those we think have a hope of seeing the truth.

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30 posted on 01/19/2013 8:16:50 AM PST by generally (Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: generally

“yet they are the ones preaching doom and gloom about the carrying capacity of the earth.”

If you look at r/K, the Malthusian scenario, where resources run out, and people fight for what is left, is K-selection, and it would quickly result in a lot of dead Liberals. I think they see that instinctively, and that is why we have to all consume less, and make sure there is enough for everyone. The second there is not enough grass for all the bunny rabbits, Liberals will become much less common, and the very thought of having to fight for resources terrifies them.

“On the other hand, liberal “elites” often have few children and behave much more like K-types.”

If you combine a conscientious r-selected’s low desire to rear, with birth control and abortion (Both about as low-investment a rearing strategy as you get) you get a single mom with no kids, or the modern Liberal female today.

“And the stereotypical “bitter clinger” has a large family.”

Large by what standards? If there were no birth control, as in the primitive scenario where this evolved, and everyone had promiscuous sex all the time, women could have twenty or thirty kids, or more. Six or eight is small, by those standards.

A lot of this has to be looked at in the primitive environment where it came from, as opposed to today. Some of the urges, though perfect for the natural environment, are highly maladaptive when combined with modern technology. Give us a few thousand years, and we will adapt, but for now, birth control is a new selective pressure actively culling intelligent Liberals, and leaving behind large swaths of indigent idiots who turn out kids as fast as they can.

Eventually, we will adapt, but until then, this all has to be seen in the context of the more primitive environment it came from.

“Think about reproduction as “converting” someone to your view, i.e., changing a liberal into a conservative or vice versa.”

Interesting. I have never thought about that. Maybe flooding the cities with welfare floods the poor with dopamine, which foments Liberalism and entitlement.


35 posted on 01/19/2013 8:39:57 AM PST by AnonymousConservative (Why did Liberals evolve within our species? www.anonymousconservative.com)
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