Skip to comments.Anti-Depressants linked to mass murders
Posted on 01/12/2013 7:10:39 AM PST by yoe
[snip] (Standard Gravure shooting) First known shooting with ties to Prozac. Joseph Wesbecker kills 12, injures 9.
Eric Harris age 17 (first on Zoloft then Luvox) and Dylan Klebold aged 18 (Columbine school shooting in Littleton, Colorado), killed 12 students and 1 teacher, and wounded 23 others, before killing themselves. Klebolds medical records have never been made available to the public.
Jeff Weise, age 16, had been prescribed 60 mg/day of Prozac (three times the average starting dose for adults!) when he shot his grandfather, his grandfathers girlfriend and many fellow students at Red Lake, Minnesota. He then shot himself. 10 dead, 12 wounded.
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“Depression is anger turned inward”
“Our society no longer works in the fields”
I’ve heard this before. Have you ever studied the religion, read the literature, or heard the music of agrarian societies? Not all of it, but much? They sound depressed as a weeping willow. Ever boiled Christianity down to its essentials? Basically, it’s that life sucks, then you die. One tho.g different now is that we’re more bored, and boredom is a vastly underestimated emotion. But there are equally burdensome things.
Jeff Weise, age 16, had been prescribed 60 mg/day of Prozac (three times the average starting dose for adults!) when he shot his grandfather, his grandfather's girlfriend and many fellow students at Red Lake, Minnesota. He then shot himself. 10 dead, 12 wounded.
Cory Baadsgaard, age 16, Wahluke (Washington state) High School, was on Paxil (which caused him to have hallucinations) when he took a rifle to his high school and held 23 classmates hostage. He has no memory of the event.
Chris Fetters, age 13, killed his favorite aunt while taking Prozac.
Christopher Pittman, age 12, murdered both his grandparents while taking Zoloft.
Mathew Miller, age 13, hung himself in his bedroom closet after taking Zoloft for 6 days.
Kip Kinkel, age 15, (on Prozac and Ritalin) shot his parents while they slept then went to school and opened fire killing 2 classmates and injuring 22 shortly after beginning Prozac treatment.
Luke Woodham, age 16 (Prozac) killed his mother and then killed two students, wounding six others.
A boy in Pocatello, ID (Zoloft) in 1998 had a Zoloft-induced seizure that caused an armed stand off at his school.
Michael Carneal (Ritalin), age 14, opened fire on students at a high school prayer meeting in West Paducah, Kentucky. Three teenagers were killed, five others were wounded..
A young man in Huntsville, Alabama (Ritalin) went psychotic chopping up his parents with an ax and also killing one sibling and almost murdering another.
Andrew Golden, age 11, (Ritalin) and Mitchell Johnson, aged 14, (Ritalin) shot 15 people, killing four students, one teacher, and wounding 10 others.
TJ Solomon, age 15, (Ritalin) high school student in Conyers, Georgia opened fire on and wounded six of his class mates.
Rod Mathews, age 14, (Ritalin) beat a classmate to death with a bat.
James Wilson, age 19, (various psychiatric drugs) from Breenwood, South Carolina, took a .22 caliber revolver into an elementary school killing two young girls, and wounding seven other children and two teachers.
Elizabeth Bush, age 13, (Paxil) was responsible for a school shooting in Pennsylvania.
Jason Hoffman (Effexor and Celexa) school shooting in El Cajon, California.
Jarred Viktor, age 15, (Paxil), after five days on Paxil he stabbed his grandmother 61 times.
Chris Shanahan, age 15 (Paxil) in Rigby, ID who out of the blue killed a woman.
Jeff Franklin (Prozac and Ritalin), Huntsville, AL, killed his parents as they came home from work using a sledge hammer, hatchet, butcher knife and mechanic's file, then attacked his younger brothers and sister.
Neal Furrow (Prozac) in LA Jewish school shooting reported to have been court-ordered to be on Prozac along with several other medications.
Kevin Rider, age 14, was withdrawing from Prozac when he died from a gunshot wound to his head. Initially it was ruled a suicide, but two years later, the investigation into his death was opened as a possible homicide. The prime suspect, also age 14, had been taking Zoloft and other SSRI anti-depressants.
Alex Kim, age 13, hung himself shortly after his Lexapro prescription had been doubled.
Diane Routhier was prescribed Welbutrin for gallstone problems. Six days later, after suffering many adverse effects of the drug, she shot herself.
Billy Willkomm, an accomplished wrestler and a University of Florida student, was prescribed Prozac at the age of 17. His family found him dead of suicide hanging from a tall ladder at the family's Gulf Shore Boulevard home in July 2002.
Kara Jaye Anne Fuller-Otter, age 12, was on Paxil when she hung herself from a hook in her closet. Kara's parents said ".... the damn doctor wouldn't take her off it and I asked him to when we went in on the second visit. I told him I thought she was having some sort of reaction to Paxil...")
Gareth Christian, Vancouver, age 18, was on Paxil when he committed suicide in 2002 (Gareth's father could not accept his son's death and killed himself.)
Julie Woodward, age 17, was on Zoloft when she hung herself in her family's detached garage.
Matthew Miller was 13 when he saw a psychiatrist because he was having difficulty at school. The psychiatrist gave him samples of Zoloft. Seven days later his mother found him dead, hanging by a belt from a laundry hook in his closet.
Kurt Danysh, age 18, and on Prozac, killed his father with a shotgun. He is now behind prison bars, and writes letters, trying to warn the world that SSRI drugs can kill.
Woody ____, age 37, committed suicide while in his 5th week of taking Zoloft. Shortly before his death his physician suggested doubling the dose of the drug. He had seen his physician only for insomnia. He had never been depressed, nor did he have any history of any mental illness symptoms.
A boy from Houston, age 10, shot and killed his father after his Prozac dosage was increased.
Hammad Memon, age 15, shot and killed a fellow middle school student. He had been diagnosed with ADHD and depression and was taking Zoloft and "other drugs for the conditions."
Matti Saari, a 22-year-old culinary student, shot and killed 9 students and a teacher, and wounded another student, before killing himself. Saari was taking an SSRI and a benzodiazapine.
Steven Kazmierczak, age 27, shot and killed five people and wounded 21 others before killing himself in a Northern Illinois University auditorium. According to his girlfriend, he had recently been taking Prozac, Xanax and Ambien. Toxicology results showed that he still had trace amounts of Xanax in his system.
Finnish gunman Pekka-Eric Auvinen, age 18, had been taking antidepressants before he killed eight people and wounded a dozen more at Jokela High School then he committed suicide.
Asa Coon from Cleveland, age 14, shot and wounded four before taking his own life. Court records show Coon was on Trazodone.
Jon Romano, age 16, on medication for depression, fired a shotgun at a teacher in his New York high school.
What drugs was Jared Lee Loughner on, age 21...... killed 6 people and injuring 14 others in Tuscon, AZ
What drugs was James Eagan Holmes on, age 24..... killed 12 people and injuring 59 others in Aurora, Colorado
What drugs was Jacob Tyler Roberts on, age 22, killed 2 injured 1, Clackamas, OR
What drugs was Adam Peter Lanza on, age 20, Killed 26 and wounded 2 in Newtown, CT
More here: SSRI Stories
Psychiatry is built as a castle upon the sand on rooting out that “something.” If you find it, and who could ever know it even exists let alone when it is found, a common answer is “So what?” Now you know; whattya do with that information? Nothing, really. They have to ship you off somewhere else to work on behavior.
Have you ever taken them?
MISS Oh-so-Drugknowledgable has.
In 1981, side effects of a healing brain trauma had a quack stick me on them for a total of 11 years, constantly increasing doses/changing meds because darn it, they just ‘weren’t working’.
[TBI has its own timeline for regeneration of neurological deficits but nobody considered *that* and thought I was “just being difficult”]
Between my impatient mother and jackass husband of the time, it was ‘decided’ that I needed to be ‘medicated’.
There are three years of my life that I do not even *remember*.
As a happy little bonus, I began to have absence seizures [one of the known side effects; seizures] and dealt with drug induced OCD for *years*.
It takes a very long time for that crap to totally leave your system and brain chemistry to rebalance itself.
The final straw was Prozac.
I took that poison for 9 days when I “heard a voice” that was not my own telling me to kill myself.
I turned on my heel, marched back to the bathroom and flushed the rest of the bottle down the toilet.
Thank God in heaven that I had a strong will and determined presence of mind to *know* that it was the pills “talking”.
All of that ended 20+ years ago and so far, I’ve managed to cope with life’s stresses all on my own.
Ups and down, highs and lows are part of a normal life and psyche.
Without one, we can never appreciate the other.
“Flat lining” is not a life worth living.
Now give me *your* informed story.
I think you’ve hit on a big part of the problem. The availability of these “magic pills” discourages doctors, therapists, and psychologists from taking the necessary steps to make a proper diagnosis. Instead, they can prescribe some magic pills, in a low dosage to start of course, and “see if that helps”. Most people will report some positive effects after a few weeks, because the magic pills are psychological uppers. However, if they report positive effects, lazy doctors can assume that depression was the correct diagnosis, and pat themselves on the back.
Also, the pills do have rare side effects that can provoke psychotic behavior, and I really don’t think that they take any precautions against that. Even if the side effects are very rare, when you prescribe these pills widely to the general public for minor maladies, those very rare events are going to happen more often.
Agree... to a point. It takes a certain evil to commit these acts and the medicine does not cause the evil. The medicine does, however, put you in a surreal, dreamlike state that limits inhibitions as well as cognitive reasoning. I don’t blame the medicine itself, but children should not be taking mind altering drugs, especially on a permanent basis, before their brains have even fully developed.
Most people including myself will tell you that they feel their normal self again. They work well for panic attacks too.
This is not a placebo effect because they actually make symptoms worse the first week or two in many people. This thread is full of misinformation. A lpt of the falsehoods have been brought about by tort lawyers and the Scientologists.
Can you list all the kids who took antidepressants and didn’t commit crimes?
So, in your opinion, a shrink should be able to have someone locked up for not committing a crime? What could possibly go wrong? The framers gave us right to due process specifically to prevent these ideas from coming to fruition.
“... the voices are telling me you should be back on yours”.
You are so BAD! LOL!
“Have you ever studied the religion, read the literature, or heard the music of agrarian societies?”
You cannot imagine how much I’ve studied.
Archaeology/anthropology/comparative religion is one of my great passions.
I was also blessed to born into a family which farmed the land to survive.
Until my grandparents died and the farming ceased, nobody had time to contemplate their navels and bemoan their ills.
We got up early, worked hard and fell into bed in sound sleep.
Until I got married and moved to a more ‘urban’ life, I didn’t really know I *had* any “problems”.
Case in point, my life has become so non-agrarian that my parents were baffled by my joyous appearance on their doorstep when the last snows hit.
Shoveling their walks and driveway was *fun*.
The adrenaline of exercise, the endorphins of good, simple hard work were intoxicating.
When I left, smiling but exhausted, I could see my mom looking out the window with what looked like bewilderment.
And then I came home and shoveled some more snow from places that didn’t really warrant shoveling.
I miss that life of simple, mindless labor.
It’s liberating and healing.
[you have a very bleak view of Christianity, I must say. that’s not what it is for me]
Animal experiments prove that.
Human are still “animals”, in our basest essence.
Just crazy coincidences.
I found this to be a more realistic view of ritalin. It's just wrong that a mass of children have been designated as "sick". Normal has a HUGE range.
Paxil & ADHD Drug* 2000-05-18 Washington
*Mother Stabs Daughter: Not Guilty by Reason of Drug Induced Insanity
Prozac* 2003-07-11 Louisiana
*Not Guilty by Reason of Prozac Induced Insanity: Mother Kills Daughter
Paxil* 2011-05-20 California
*Wife Given Probation After Stabbing Husband Over 200 Times: Rage Caused by Meds
Prozac 1991-10-16 California
*Woman Kills Her Mother: Given Only 3 Years in Prison Because of Testimony Using Prozac Defense
Prozac 1998-10-13 Scotland
*Woman Stabs Boyfriend: Used Prozac Defense: Placed on Probation
Prozac 1991-11-06 California
+Daughter, A College Professor, Bites her 87 Year Old Mother to Death
Psychiatry is crap.
They lost what little credibility they had when they delisted homosexuality as mental disorder.
Most ‘issues’ are rooted in suppressed anger which has many origins.
Admit the anger and let it go.
[kind of biblical, really]
“blues are all about getting up after being beaten, about stories of people that has went trought hell and back, just to stand again and sing his song for his people, is about love, hate, passion, blues is simply, a mission from god”
And so, there we have it.
Success is getting back up just one more time than you’ve been knocked down.
And what would this thread be without an appearance of the ubiquitous straw man?
The Physicians’ Desk Reference lists the following adverse reactions (side effects) to antidepressants among a host of other physical and neuropsychiatric effects. None of these adverse reactions (side effects) is listed as Rare. They are all listed as either Frequent or as Infrequent:
Manic Reaction (Mania, e.g., Kleptomania, Pyromania, Dipsomania, Nymphomania)
Hypomania (e.g., poor judgment, over spending, impulsivity, etc.)
Emotional Lability (Or Instability)
Alcohol Abuse and/or Craving
Akathisia (Severe Inner Restlessness)
Discontinuation (Withdrawal) Syndrome
On March 22, 2004 the FDA published a Public Health Advisory that reiterates several of these side effects and states (in part) “Anxiety, agitation, panic attacks, insomnia, irritability, hostility, impulsivity, akathisia (severe restlessness), hypomania, and mania have been reported in adult and pediatric patients being treated with antidepressants for major depressive disorder as well as for other indications, both psychiatric and non-psychiatric.”
On September 14, 2004 the FDA added a Black Box Warning in regard to antidepressants & suicidality in those under age 18.
On September 14, 2004 the FDA mandated that pharmacies provide to all parents or guardians for those younger than 18 an Antidepressant Patient Medication Guide. This guide reads (in part) “Call healthcare provider right away if you or your family member has any of the following symptoms: Acting aggressive, being angry, or violent & acting on dangerous impulses.” This Antidepressant Patient Medication Guide also states “Never stop an antidepressant medicine without first talking to a healthcare provider. Stopping an antidepressant medicine suddenly can cause other symptoms.”
On December 13, 2006, the Black Box Warning for suicidality was updated to include those under age 25. The Black Box Warning is included in the insert to the drugs and in the Physicians’ Desk reference.
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