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butterdezillion

Posted on 01/03/2013 12:29:36 PM PST by butterdezillion

I just found out that all the faxes I sent to the Republican members of Congress have been referred to just the 3 Congress-critters who represent me. I need everybody to contact your own Congress members and let them know that Hawaii registrar Alvin Onaka has certified to AZ SOS Ken Bennett that Obama's Hawaii birth certificate is not legally valid.

Bennett asked Onaka to verify, among other things, that Obama, male, was born on Aug 4, 1961, in Honolulu on Oahu to Stanley Ann Dunham and Barack Hussein Obama. According to Hawaii law, Onaka has to verify any submitted information if he can certify that the birth actually happened that way. And though Onaka verified that the claims on the White House image are claimed on the record they've got, he did not verify the truth of any of those facts. The only lawful reason for that is if the record they have is not legally valid.

You can see the documentation for all this at http://butterdezillion.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/complete-klayman-letter-to-bauer.pdf

Two other verifications (to MDEC and to KS SOS Kris Kobach) are also consistent with a non-valid record. Onaka has been willing to say that the claims that are actually on the White House image "match" the claims on the record but is NOT willing to say that the information is "identical" or that the White House image is a "true and accurate representation of the original record on file". His refusal to verify what he was specifically asked is his confirmation that those things are NOT true. It is NOT a true and accurate representation of the original record and the information in it is NOT identical to the information in the real record. IOW, the White House image is a forgery.

Which is what affidavits by Sheriff Joe Arpaio and his Cold Case Posse commander, Mike Zullo, also say.

This fits with the 1960-64 birth index being altered to include non-valid records (which I've proven in an affidavit filed for a NE criminal case). And a bunch of other evidence too.

The long and short of it is this: Hawaii has officially certified that they cannot verify Obama's date of birth, city and island of birth, and parents' names. Those are critical to eligibility. With no legally-established birth facts, there is nobody who can certify that Obama is eligible, and every Official Certification of Nomination that Bob Bauer sent to the state SOS's to get Obama on the ballot are fraudulent at best.

IOW, every electoral vote that Obama got was the result of legally-acknowledged (by Hawaii) fraud.

We need the members of Congress to know that every electoral vote for Obama that they accept tomorrow is a vote to accept known criminal behavior.

Please help me get this word out to everybody, since the "machine" will only let me contact 3 people, and I've already done that. We need one Senator and one Representative to object to all the known-fraudulent electoral votes for Barack Obama.


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: afterbirfturds; arpaio; birftards; birthcertificate; birtherrosettastone; certifigate; coldcaseposse; joearpaio; mikezullo; naturalborncitizen; obama
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To: butterdezillion

Same thing happened to me.


301 posted on 01/06/2013 8:17:29 PM PST by gitmo ( If your theology doesn't become your biography it's useless.)
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To: LucyT; All

Thanks for the pings. I’ve just finished reading every post. Interesting discussion.


302 posted on 01/06/2013 8:42:16 PM PST by PGalt
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To: All

I still believe that Barack Sr. isn’t Barry’s daddy. Could be gramps shacked up on Toot. The way Barry has treated his “mother” is very detached. All of his relatives sans his “sister” he appears to be very detached. The older Barry gets, the more Indonesian he looks.

Choom gangers getting poor grades, B - at best, don’t get admitted into Occidental unless they have a trick up their sleeve, such as “international student”. Supposedly he got a FULL RIDE. From whom? Govt. for foreign students? The East West Center in Honolulu? Some foreign oil wealthy dudes?

Barry has to be CIA. His scrubbed and twisted trail has CIA prints on it. I had no idea until several years ago that the CIA, just as the rest of the Country, has a communist/socialist/marxist LEFT WING and a Patriotic Right Wing. They war against each other as much as protecting the Country. My thoughts for the night.


303 posted on 01/06/2013 8:57:48 PM PST by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: 4Zoltan
The newspaper articles were written when he was elected to the Harvard Law Review. And as far as I know are the first time he was interviewed by anyone and published nationally. What other sources would they have gotten info from?

The Asian-American president of the HLR who preceded Obama and/or his professors, other classmates, etc. These stories weren't just simple transcriptions of one-on-one interviews.

You are a reporter going to interview a 29 year old college student about being elected to law review, you’re not going to do a whole lot of research into his background. And if if you were what public records would you check?

No one suggested anything about checking public records, but as I pointed out, there WOULD be other people to interview and from what I recall, OTHER people were quoted in these stories. But, let's think about the 1991 bio that says Obama was born in Kenya. There would be no one else from whom that information would have been obtained, yet the today, the editor pretends she made a "fact-checking" error. She didn't says she misunderstood where he was born. If it was a factchecking error, then this would means someone else gave her the facts and that would only be one person. How was she supposed to check a fact that was provided to her by the person whom she was writing about??

Look at the different examples of Hawaiian birth certificates on the internet. How many have definite seals that you can identify the marks in?

Out of what you provided, the only one that I have trouble detecting the seal is on the Miki Booth certificate which is heavily redacted with white-out. The other link with the certificates from the poster named danae are problematic because part of her story doesn't add up. She claims the docs were scanned at 600 dpi, but one was only at 96 dpi. Also, part of her short-form is covered with a huge piece of paper She also talks about her certificate not being certified, so I don't know whether it's supposed to contain a seal or not: "Remember, the black and white is an UNCERTIFIED copy!" t just simple transcriptions of one-on-one interviews.

304 posted on 01/06/2013 11:09:28 PM PST by edge919
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To: butterdezillion; palmer

Is not somewhat interesting that Hawaii uses basically the same security standards for their documents in 2012 that Nebraska used in 1993 - basically cross-hatch low security paper and de-embossed stamps.

http://www.securitypaperstore.com/designsecureamp8482-basketw8483.html

Basically this is on the market as DesignSecure. It is the most basic of ‘security paper’.

In 19 years security standards for official documents or certified reproductions have gotten more stringent.

I have had to handle a lot of BCs. And ensure they were authentic, state-issued BCs. National level youth sports is somewhat picky about this requirement - a lot more picky than the Congressional College or SoSs of states. A kid does not get to play without an actual, real, state issue (no hospital issued) document with the required ‘seal’. No photocopies, no scans, no getting around it.

So I have had parents hand me photocopies, scans, pictures, etc. But each time I had to tell them - I need the real, actual document and nothing less. We have overnighted documents to a tournament location just so a child could play a game. Yes, the people who manage this do not accept anything less than the real McCoy.

It is just amazing that Hawaii actually reduced their security features on their BCs since 1993. We know this due to the Peterboy document (that HDOH now hides behind a password on their official website). This document was forced into the public when a missing boy became big news in Hawaii. His document show features well beyond the basketweave and de-embossed stamp. It had features that I got accustomed to seeing handling multiple BCs from different states for youth sports.

What are these features:

Seals that are slightly raised and embossed. These are made specifically NOT to copy or scan. As we have seen the ‘stamp’ from both Nebraska and Hawaii show easily when copied. This defeats the purpose of document fraud. You do NOT want these features to easily copy or scan. Embossed emblems that are only slightly raised off the paper are all but impossible to scan.

Voidsecure pattern. This pattern is in the document and only shows up clearly when the document is photocopied. This pattern does not show up well when a document is scanned but it it still there if you know what to look for. This particular feature shows the difference between digital scanning and ordinary ‘photo-copying’. In the Peterboy this feature was present. Not so in current Hawaii documents.

Watermarks. Watermarks built into the paper and only show when held to the light at at an angle. Watermarks also are all but impossible to scan or copy at all. These are very common in BCs.

Micro printing. Common in checks. Used by some states for BCs. What looks like a line is really very tightly compacted printing. Again, when scanned or copied it usually creates just a line.

Hawaii intentionally ‘dumbed down’ their documents since the Peterboy document was issued. When? Not sure but they went backwards.

As a comparison here is this famous BC - Bobby Jindals. Notice - no ‘raised seal’. It is probably there but not picked up in the scan. And the document does have the Void-secure feature for highlighting the hidden word VOID in the document. It does not jump out but if you have looked at enough BCs you can tell when it is there from a scan.

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/275045/BOBBY-JINDAL-BIRTH-CERTIFICATE.jpg


305 posted on 01/07/2013 8:01:52 AM PST by bluecat6 ("All non-denial denials. They doubt our ancestry, but they don't say the story isn't accurate. ")
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To: LucyT

It’s a load.


306 posted on 01/07/2013 10:39:02 AM PST by Lady Jag (If you can't make them see the light, let them feel the heat. - Reagan)
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To: WildHighlander57

As a matter of policy, the State Department provides a copy of all CLNs issued to the IRS, FBI, DHS, and Secret Service.

Numerous action alerts were announced throughout secure networks when a background investigation on a guy named Obama, who had been issued a CLN in 1968, would be in attendance at an award ceremony with First Lady Hillary Clinton in the Rose Garden of the White House in 1993.

The paper trail is hiding in plain site.


307 posted on 01/07/2013 11:09:49 AM PST by SvenMagnussen (TINKER, TAILOR, SOLDIER, SPY)
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To: All

bttt


308 posted on 01/07/2013 11:13:52 AM PST by patriot08 (NATIVE TEXAN (girl type))
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To: bluecat6

“I have had to handle a lot of BCs. And ensure they were authentic, state-issued BCs. National level youth sports is somewhat picky about this requirement - a lot more picky than the Congressional College or SoSs of states.”

Are you saying your personal experience is with Hawaii issued birth certificates?


309 posted on 01/07/2013 1:15:56 PM PST by 4Zoltan
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To: SvenMagnussen; WildHighlander57
"The paper trail is hiding in plain site."

Then again, it's not.

There's only two ways such a "paper trail", if it really does exist, would become "known:"

1. Barry authorizes their release. <-- Never going to happen.
or
2. Via a court order. <-- The past 4.5+ years have shown that this, too, is never going to happen.

Therefore, it's really all moot at the end of the day.

This discussion are really nothing more than theoretical "what ifs" and "only ifs."

310 posted on 01/07/2013 3:45:36 PM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: SvenMagnussen; WildHighlander57
Furthermore, since Barry's passport record was "cauterized," you know any "CLN" related records (if they exist(ed)) were scorched as well too.

He's the flim flam teflon man.

Game over.

311 posted on 01/07/2013 3:53:58 PM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: 4Zoltan

Can you not read?

Try again to see if I said that.

But I have seen Peterboy’s photocopied image of his BC.

It had additional features that are clearly no in current Hawaii state issued BCs.

Hawaii BCs are 100% joke. They are designed to allow document fraud - not prevent it.

Onaka should go to jail for allowing this to happen on his watch.


312 posted on 01/07/2013 5:16:40 PM PST by bluecat6 ("All non-denial denials. They doubt our ancestry, but they don't say the story isn't accurate. ")
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To: rxsid

What are you afraid of?


313 posted on 01/07/2013 6:23:00 PM PST by SvenMagnussen (TINKER, TAILOR, SOLDIER, SPY)
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To: bluecat6; butterdezillion

Old articles about Alvin T. Onaka.

Fed up with Japan, mom gives birth to son in U.S.
Couple pin dreams on dual citizenship
Tuesday, Oct. 29, 2002

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/text/nn20021029b7.html

Depressed by what they see as Japan’s opaque economic and political future, Hideaki Tokito and his wife, Yuko, are pinning their dreams on their son’s dual citizenship.

SNIP

Terumasa holds Japanese and U.S. passports, having been born in Queens Hospital. His parents run an Internet business specializing in overseas food , using their Tokyo home as their office. However, they plan to relocate to Honolulu in the near future.

When Yuko Tokito became pregnant, a friend told her that her baby would be able to get U.S. citizenship if she gave birth in the United States. Because she and her husband frequently visited Hawaii on business and had many friends here, she decided to give birth in Honolulu. She also mistrusts Japanese medicine.

The couple came to Honolulu in the last month of her pregnancy and relaxed on the beach, with Yuko receiving regular checkups.

“I was able to relax in giving birth to my baby because I was in a ward that looked like a hotel room, and underwent a painless delivery (under an anesthetic),” she says.

Hideaki Tokito meanwhile prepared the necessary papers for the baby to obtain U.S. citizenship, learning the documents he would submit to the hospital at the time of the child’s discharge would represent the birth registration.

A week after the baby was born, the father went to the state public health office and received the child’s birth certificate. He also went to the Japanese Consulate and submitted a Japanese translation of the certificate.

He signed the baby’s registration paper, which included a clause reserving the child’s right to claim Japanese nationality.

Tokito raised his right hand and placed his left on his chest and took an oath to get his baby’s U.S. passport.

SNIP

Alvin T. Onaka, who signed Terumasa’s birth certificate, said Japanese are not alone in using the U.S. nationality system.

Onaka, 55, a fourth-generation Japanese-American, considers himself more an American than a Japanese-American, due to his upbringing. But his 24-year-old son Takashi, who was born in Japan while Onaka was studying in the country and currently works at the Aomori Prefectural Government under a Foreign Ministry exchange program, wonders why he doesn’t have dual citizenship.

Under Japan’s lineage-based Nationality Law, one parent must be Japanese for offspring to obtain citizenship.

“The times have changed,” Onaka says. “People in my son’s generation think it’s neat to have dual citizenship because they can fall back on it.”

Onaka believes people of dual citizenship develop an awareness of both countries, and if that makes for internationally minded people who appreciate the differences between the two nations, then dual citizenship is best.

____________________________________

Stat reporting earns honor
Alvin Onaka guides state vital statistics
Monday, July 14, 2008

http://archives.starbulletin.com/2008/07/14/news/story07.html

To battle a spate of unsubstantiated rumors, including one that Obama is not a natural-born U.S. citizen, the Obama campaign launched a Web site called “Fight the Smears.” It shows a copy of his Hawaii birth certificate.

Onaka said he has had many calls asking him to confirm Obama’s birth certificate, but he cannot disclose such information: “Only Obama can consent to that.”

SNIP

Onaka, chief of the state Health Department’s Office of Health Status Monitoring, received the Halbert L. Dunn Award for outstanding contributions to the field of vital and health statistics. He was recognized for a 40-year demographic and public health career at international, national and state levels. He has been at the DOH about 20 years.

State Health Director Chiyome Fukino said, “We are proud that Dr. Onaka has been recognized with this prestigious award and brought it home to Hawaii. Alvin is a national leader in the field of vital and health statistics, and the award is well deserved.”

Inspired by the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, the Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act of 2005 contained a subsection called REAL ID to improve the U.S. system for issuing secure identification documents. Hawaii was already working on a process called Electronic Verification of Vital Event (EVVE), and it is piloting a national system, Onaka said.

“You can’t travel without a valid ID,” Onaka said, and a birth certificate must be used to verify a federally approved ID, driver’s license or passport. “There needs to be a system that allows this to occur, and Hawaii is piloting this.”

If a person goes to a Social Security office, for example, and presents a birth certificate from Hawaii, the office can input five pieces of information, access a secure database in Hawaii and get a “yes” or “no” answer on whether it is the same information, he said.

“I think we’re before our time, but the rest of the world will catch up with us,” Onaka said. “It’s going to be a reality. ID theft is the most prevalent crime, and others have to have something to combat it.”

Onaka said he is also working with passport offices and even the Little League Association on a system to verify birth certificates of the players to prove they are in the right age brackets.


314 posted on 01/07/2013 8:31:46 PM PST by Smokeyblue
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To: SvenMagnussen; Lady Jag; butterdezillion; LucyT

“As a matter of policy,the State Department provides a copy of all CLNs issued to the IRS,FBI,DHS, and Secret Service.

Numerous action alerts were announced throughout secure networks when a background investigation on a guy named Obama,who had been issued a CLN in 1968,would be in attendance at an award ceremony with First Lady Hillary Clinton in the Rose Garden of the White House in 1993.

The paper trail is hiding in plain site.”

Sven,

Where did you see his CLN?

At which office, IRS, FBI, DHS, or Secret Service?

Butterdezillion, LucyT, Lady Jag

Pinging y’all to this post.

FRmail is welcome :)


315 posted on 01/07/2013 8:38:30 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: bluecat6; butterdezillion; palmer

Ok, just trying to establish your knowledge. Earlier you wrote:

“Seals that are slightly raised and embossed. These are made specifically NOT to copy or scan.”

Would that explain why the seals don’t show up on scans of Obama’s short form and long form?

“Voidsecure pattern. This pattern is in the document and only shows up clearly when the document is photocopied.”

Does that explain why the AP copy of Obama’s LFBC does not show the basketweave pattern? Granted the words “void” don’t show up (like in Romney’s) but the green background is gone (except along the left edge of the original BC image, where it curved).

“Watermarks. Watermarks built into the paper and only show when held to the light at at an angle.”

Any evidence that Obama’s doesn’t have watermarks?

“Micro printing. Common in checks.”

Is there microtype hidden in the border of the Hawaii short form BCs?

Do you know whether Hawaii uses erasable fluorescent printing (printing that only shows up under ultraviolet light)? Non-optical brighteners (paper without added optical paper brighteners)? Intaglio printing (for that you would need to actually touch a Hawaiin BC)? Security thread (polyester thread woven into the paper)?


316 posted on 01/07/2013 9:04:28 PM PST by 4Zoltan
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To: 4Zoltan
The argument over security features seems completely academic until someone (other than a press flunky) is allowed to examine the certified copy or copies sent from HI. Better still open the original record book in HI, lay it on a table, put plexiglass protection over it and allow anyone to walk by and look at it.

On the other extreme, the WH could scan the certified copy into a computer, muck around with it, and release it as a PDF. Actually that is what they did proving that have no motivation to resolve this issue.

It is entirely possible that the butchering of the scanned copy involved removing or altering critical information.

The least likely scenario is that the WH PDF was created from pieces and parts either scanned or digitally created. That notion has gone by the wayside along with various incorrect theories like they used the wrong typewriter font or typewriter letters don't match, etc.

317 posted on 01/08/2013 4:13:44 AM PST by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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To: 4Zoltan

I apologize for my curt response. I thought your comments were aimed at trolling.

Highly secure embossed seals are actually very subtle - by design. The pattern (seals) used by Nebraska in 1993 and Hawaii now are not embossed. But De-embossed and not designed to be secure like an embossed seal. So they do copy easier than the more secure embossed seals.

Here are examples of this lower level of ‘seal’.

http://www.stamp-connection.com/notary_by_state.php

The reason for these is they work with all sorts of paper.

The embossed seals that are more secure expect a high quality of paper.

BCs that do have watermarks will usually state they have a watermarks.

On ones I have there is a statement on the document -

“The back of this document contains an artificial watermark - hold at an angle to view.”

The security feature is having the feature itself AND indicating the feature is present. This prevents easily forged documents.

Many states have the Void Secure pattern embedded. In the days before scanners it was a very good anti forgery tool.

Hawaii seems to have a old style ‘seal’ and the basic basketweave paper as of now. In 1993 when Peterboy BC was released it had the voidsecure feature. I have not been able to tell when Hawaii ‘dumbed down’ their documents.

Here is a link to an image for Peterboy.

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSkwWpI_XqRTzwZREGB_6ds1pB8nn9icpyrMtZ255oQtKwgraZa&t=1


318 posted on 01/08/2013 6:17:38 AM PST by bluecat6 ("All non-denial denials. They doubt our ancestry, but they don't say the story isn't accurate. ")
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To: palmer; 4Zoltan

Very good post.

The concept of document security is help not easily copy and alter documents.

It assumes you are presented an actual document to examine for authenticity.

Lets repeat that.

Security features are present under the assumption that an actual, physical document is used and examined.

That has never been the case with the COLB or LFBC. The general public and trusted examiners have been provided ONLY digital images.

The exercise of what is authentic and what is not can not even start under this circumstance.


319 posted on 01/08/2013 6:23:35 AM PST by bluecat6 ("All non-denial denials. They doubt our ancestry, but they don't say the story isn't accurate. ")
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To: WildHighlander57

Check http://www.svenmagnussen.blogspot.com daily. I’m working to update the site as quickly as possible.

I have comments enabled, but comments aren’t available. So, freepmail your comments and I’ll post them as I can.


320 posted on 01/08/2013 8:04:35 AM PST by SvenMagnussen (TINKER, TAILOR, SOLDIER, SPY)
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