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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The people signing the petitions to secede from the United States should instead surrender their U.S. citizenship and leave our states to be defended by Patriots who don’t cut and run.


4 posted on 11/11/2012 10:06:33 PM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: WhiskeyX
...Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, ...

When elected officials and bureaucracies act outside the law they are simply lawbreakers. When the majority of the people vote in favor of the lawlessness that has greatly manifested itself in the highest offices they have withdrawn their consent to be governed by a constitutional government. By what legitimate basis does the United States of America, as a Constitutional republic, still exist?

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

'The People' no longer support that. They voted in support of lawlessness from the highest office on down. They voted against the rule of law. By referendum we now have a banana republic. The USAINO.

You can stay with the Banana Republic and support it if you want to.

5 posted on 11/11/2012 10:08:36 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: WhiskeyX
I don't consider this a secessionist movement so much as a movement to kick out the "Blue" areas from the Union. We can call it whatever is convenient. All I want is to end these pointless discussions and get myself free of PeeCee rule.

I'm not leaving the USA, Connecticut is.

6 posted on 11/11/2012 10:10:21 PM PST by Gluteus Maximus
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To: WhiskeyX; TigersEye

What Tigers Eye said


8 posted on 11/11/2012 10:18:40 PM PST by Nifster
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To: WhiskeyX
The people signing the petitions to secede from the United States should instead surrender their U.S. citizenship and leave our states to be defended by Patriots who don’t cut and run.

Good luck with Kalifornia.

15 posted on 11/11/2012 10:30:39 PM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: WhiskeyX
And if we all thought like that we'd still be British subjects.

Only fools think they can fight the onslaught we're facing. Who's going to fight for your so-called "patriots"? John Boehner? Mitch McConnell? Willard Romney? Allen "I Quit" West?

Wake up.


20 posted on 11/11/2012 10:47:06 PM PST by ex91B10 (We've tried the Soap Box,the Ballot Box and the Jury Box; ONE BOX LEFT!)
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To: WhiskeyX
The people signing the petitions to secede from the United States should instead surrender their U.S. citizenship and leave our states to be defended by Patriots who don’t cut and run.

This country was founded by people who cut and ran from their former homelands.

61 posted on 11/12/2012 3:43:26 AM PST by EricT. (The GOP's sole purpose is to serve as an ineffective alternative to the Democrat Party.)
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To: WhiskeyX

In reality you are a citizen of a state. The whole US citizenship thing is an artificial construct.


77 posted on 11/12/2012 5:43:16 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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