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The country has moved beyond the idea that disarming the innocent will protect them.
1 posted on 07/21/2012 8:51:51 AM PDT by marktwain
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the Secret Service protective detail would have put several bullets through the facepiece of the moke's gas mask -- end of story.

Hell he would have never gotten near the building.
2 posted on 07/21/2012 8:56:31 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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What is interesting is the “fight or flight” response of the masses today. Had 20 rushed him it would have been over but it sounds like everyone ran.


3 posted on 07/21/2012 8:57:39 AM PDT by edcoil (It is not over until I win.)
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That will work until we have to pass thru a metal detector just to get into the movies.


4 posted on 07/21/2012 9:02:57 AM PDT by Delta 21 (Oh Crap !! Did I say that out loud ??!??)
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The libs cannot comprehend that law enforcement is only effective after a crime has been committed. If you find yourself in the middle of a crime you can only rely on me, myself and I.


5 posted on 07/21/2012 9:03:22 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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Good idea. Here's another idea........instead of risking law enforcement officers to dismantle the booby traps in this lunatic's apartment, get all valuables from neighboring units, move law enforcement to a block away and send him in to do it.
6 posted on 07/21/2012 9:06:46 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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In mho, even if someone were carrying concealed in the theater it would have been difficult (to say the least) to bring down the mass murderer.

It was dark, he was wearing black and a ballistic vest, CS gas makes you cry, and people were running in a panic.

I've trained in tactical situations, and I would not be very confident in bringing the perp down.

5.56mm

7 posted on 07/21/2012 9:10:35 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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These mass shootings are all done by mentally imbalanced people, but all of them are sane enough to commit their deeds in no-gun zones.


8 posted on 07/21/2012 9:18:31 AM PDT by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
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Huffington Post comments from hand wringing liberals to ban guns, ban the NRA, and make guns so expensively stupid taxed it will make them harder to get. Libs never blame the shooter, but the gun or those that “allow” guns or ammo, when we have a right to bear arms. They never understand our own 2nd ammendment. Would they have told the founding fathers to their face they were wrong? Do the libs have that much gaul to have insulted the founding fathers to their faces?


21 posted on 07/21/2012 9:59:14 AM PDT by Blue Highway
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It was a dark theater, and he started with smoke bombs. Even armed the smart move was to duck, there’s no way to have target certainty in that environment.


22 posted on 07/21/2012 9:59:27 AM PDT by discostu (Welcome back my friends to the show that never ends.)
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The problem with the authors thinking is how important is it to see a movie? If the theater has a no gun policy, and you willingly ignore it, you are saying that the film is so important that it is worth not only dissecting property rights, but breaking the law.

Honestly. If the theater’s policy is untenable, don’t patronize. It is that simple.


29 posted on 07/21/2012 11:01:05 AM PDT by Melas (u)
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http://www.marinecorpstimes.com/news/2012/07/marine-new-york-city-poolees-foil-robbery-072112w/

Romney should be pushing this type of response.


41 posted on 07/21/2012 11:54:02 AM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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Sue them back to the cave man wall painting days


42 posted on 07/21/2012 11:55:47 AM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: going hot; KrisKrinkle; TigersEye; Bryanw92; firebasecody; Mathews; pallis; Melas; Delta 21; ...
Good afternoon (in my time zone). I appreciate all of your responses.

I would like to address them, not in any order, but hopefully with thoughtfulness and logic...

Melas, I believe that almost everyone who posted to me has never been in a situation as those who were in that theater. I have only been shot at once in the Army, and have only drew my weapon twice in my entire life. I would prefer getting off of this planet without having to kill anyone. Having said that...

Pallis, four or five people? Chances are that you won't find four or five people who are armed anywhere. Believe it or not, even at a gun show (weapons loaded). Having said that, your point is well taken.

Mathews, I hope you are never in a situation were it comes down to your life, or someone else. Those are bad situations. I have had that happen twice in my life (possible drownings), and they suck, although the outcomes were positive.

Firebasecody, and the rest of the thoughtful posters who posted to me: given the scenario, I would have had to been close to the shooter, even with my vision blurred, seen the muzzle flash, and aimed accordingly. If the opportunity would have presented itself, yes tackling the asshole could have been an option, even if it meant possible death. I would have no problem with that.

Bryanw92 and Tigerseye, basically having a firearm, knowing how to use it, is always better than not having one. Goes without saying (not being sarcastic).

Kriskrinkle, I hope I have addressed all of the posts to me including yours. And yes, I still want the Beemer, in black when you get a chance. ;&)

Thanks again to all of you for your posts.

5.56mm

53 posted on 07/21/2012 2:31:23 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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This appears to be the perfect case for sueing the Theater under the theory that, if they prohibit concealed weapons, they are completely responsible for your security.


56 posted on 07/21/2012 6:37:22 PM PDT by Mack the knife
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