[M Kehoe]

In mho, even if someone were carrying concealed in the theater it would have been difficult (to say the least) to bring down the mass murderer.

It was dark, he was wearing black and a ballistic vest, CS gas makes you cry, and people were running in a panic.

I've trained in tactical situations, and I would not be very confident in bringing the perp down.

5.56mm

[Mathews]

But I would have given my life trying to protect the others...

[firebasecody]

I hear you. However, if it was clear that more people were going to get shot, including myself, it would be worth the extra risk to bring him down. Aim for what is not protected.

[Bryanw92]

>>I’ve trained in tactical situations, and I would not be very confident in bringing the perp down.

What’s your confidence level for bringing him down if you are not armed? Most people aren’t saying that a guy with a Kel-Tec or J-frame should go charging up to a guy with an assault rifle. But, when you find yourself cornered by the press of the crowd on one side and the armed nutjob on the other, that little pocket gun is at least a chance to survive.

[FatherofFive]

I've trained in tactical situations, and I would not be very confident in bringing the perp down.

And think of the lawsuits against you if one of your shots hit someone.

What was amazing to me is that nobody tried to jump him. They were so close. Just one person jump on him, and others would follow.

We need a "Let's Roll!" attitude in facing evil.

[TigersEye]

In mho, even if someone were carrying concealed in the theater it would have been difficult (to say the least) to bring down the mass murderer.

I defer to your training in that assessment and take it at face value as accurate. But the difference between being armed and being unarmed is the difference between difficult and near impossible.

[going hot]

In a group of dehorned steer i was watching, one seemed to be the boss. He had more space, ate what he wished. He had a small stubble of horn, more than the others, and used it to get his way.

Sharp claws are better than soft paws, knives are bettrer than knuckles, and a pistol is better than either.

Don't know how it would turn out with one, but you do know how it turns out without one.

ps, body armor is nice, but still hurts like hell and sets one back to catch a fat round center of mass.

[KrisKrinkle]

I believer the applicable words are “Close with and destroy the enemy” and maybe “If you’re going to go down, take them down with you”.

Of course I’m writing that as an overage, armchair Rambo sitting at a computer.

Could I have actually done it or tried it? I don’t know since I’ve never been in the situation. I hope I’ll never have to find out.

[pallis]

I disagree. Four or five people pelting him with lead moving 700 to 1000 feet per second would have been a powerful distraction, even to someone wearing full body armor. One or two of those on the head, even with the protective helmet, would be a threat stopper. At the very least it would have provided others an opportunity to escape.

[Melas]

Be prepared to hear from invincible posters who will never be in danger because they are armed.

[Delta 21]

No doubt I would have had confidence issues as well when a night on the town turns into a shooting gallery.

But as you were crouching down behind the best cover you can find, securing your weapon in your hands, praying to our maker for the strength to do the thing that you do not want to do, and scanning the situation, see one or two or maybe more doing the same thing.

The odds are dramatically different now!! The streets belong to FREE men. Not the criminals !!