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Romney… Stand Up, Or Stand Down!
skipmaclure.us ^ | July 7 2012 | Skip MacLure

Posted on 07/07/2012 1:58:57 PM PDT by Atlanticist.us

I’m seriously conflicted. I’m beginning to have flashbacks to the presidential race of 2008. There are some disturbing parallels between the candidacy of the hapless John “you can’t do it my friend” McCain and the present candidate, the anointed of the Washington Republican Establishment. It’s akin to the feeling I got when I realized that George Bush was anything but the conservative he positioned himself to be.

Americans have been watching with an almost preternatural intensity as this all too real drama plays out on our national stage. Mitt Romney ran for the nomination of the Republican Party like a junkyard dog… destroying candidate after candidate and devil-take-the-hindmost. It was readily apparent that he didn’t much care where the bottom of the swamp was either. Though many of us disliked his tactics… and they were short, brutal and to the point, we salved ourselves with the thought… “just wait for the campaign this summer and fall, Romney will chew up Obama and spit him out, we’ve got a tiger in our tank”.

Readers will remember that I was never that high on Romney. I saw the potential millstone that ‘Romneycare’ presented to the Republican effort to oust the Marxist Obama, as unfair as it may be. ‘Romneycare’ as it has been dubbed is, and was, nothing compared to the utter devastation that will be Obama’s legacy to this country should the healthcare law not be overturned.

Mitt Romney’s attempt to bring sanity to Massachusetts health care costs, through a state mandated health care system, was admirable in its aims. Romney should have known it would have been vulnerable to a Democratic state legislature which couldn’t wait to turn the law into a tax-and-spend opportunity, which was then followed by the election of a liberal Democrat governor after Romney’s departure who turned the law into something totally different than its original intent. What Romney did was to remediate some of the state’s onerous health care regulations. What Barack Hussein Obama has done is to enslave an entire nation to the false gods of liberal governance.

Romney has got to start listening to some different advice. From what I’ve observed, he should dump his advisers now. Whoever advised Romney to allow photo ops from ‘The Boathouse’ and ‘The Monster’ speed boat while the Anointed One is out campaigning, schmoozing senior citizens and sucking down brewskis with constituents, should be in some other line of work… period.

Romney has lost his nerve… or someone high up in his campaign has. Running from the fight is serving none of us well. No incumbent president since Jimma’ Boy Cata has been as vulnerable as Barack Obama. What’s infuriating me and many other patriots, at least according to the comments we get, and we get a bunch… Romney wants us to trust him to bring this country out of the darkness that is this ‘depression’. He wants us to fight for him. When is he going to fight for us?

Semper Vigilans, Semper Fidelis

© Skip MacLure 2012


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KEYWORDS: electioncampaign; healthcare; mittromney; obama
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To: Finny

Like I keep asking:

If you got a plan B candidate to DEFEAT OBAMA whom isn’t some loon 3rd party nobody or some fantasy of Palin or Alan West becoming candidates, then I’m all ears.

Right now none of you have any clue how you are going to beat Obama. All you are interested in is defeating Romney. So until then I am not taking any of you seriously.


161 posted on 07/08/2012 3:25:38 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: VanDeKoik
Mr. RomneyCARE cannot, on Earth, win.



“Mr. pRes_ _ent, our agent, ScreamingFist, has just informed us
that the GOP is thinking of dropping our chosen loser, Romney!!!!!!”


162 posted on 07/08/2012 3:30:51 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: paudio
So your philosophy is that because Obama is going to be at least as destructive and deceitful as Romney in his attacks against his opponent, that it justifies voting for a statist authoritarian ... to fight statist authoritarianism?

What other candidates could "have" against Obama & Co. is a clear vision to reduce government and a record to back up their words.

163 posted on 07/08/2012 3:37:54 AM PDT by Finny (A deal with the devil is ALWAYS a losing proposition. Voting for Romney to avoid Obama is just that.)
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To: VanDeKoik
You are "all ears" only for a one-note samba: ABO, defeat Obama, no matter the price. And that price would be to sanction and endorse the capitulation of the Republican Party to a statist, liberal agenda.

Your Plan A is self-defeating. Romney would act against conservatism, and if he wins with a majority, would have what was perceived as a popular mandate to do so. ABOers could scream until they're blue in the face that they meant to vote against Obama, not for Romney -- and would be snubbed by a coalesced majority made up of Romney, Republican moderates in Congress, the GOP-e, the MSM, and Democrats. ALL of them would point to Romney's landslide as proof of the national popularity of, and desire for, his "progressive" style of governing. And Conservative opposition in Congress would be squelched.

Defeating Obama by having Romney take his place is a fool's errand. I don't pretend to have a plan to "defeat Obama" by electing a replacement. I have a plan to defeat Obama's agenda, which is shared by Romney, another way. I will be voting third party and praying that enough Americans, Democrat and Republican, do the same so that whichever guy wins has such a splintered popular vote plurality that he is denied a mandate and is put on defense because the majority of voters rejected him. And if it happens to be Obama, our empowered and emboldened Republican Congress will defeat his agenda.

You, on the otherhand, would be voting to HELP statism and amoral authoritarianism. That it would result in "defeating" Obama would be a bad joke.

164 posted on 07/08/2012 4:17:37 AM PDT by Finny (A deal with the devil is ALWAYS a losing proposition. Voting for Romney to avoid Obama is just that.)
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To: Graewoulf
It is now even money that Obama will beat Romney.

That's complete B.S! You do not know what your talking about unless you want to show some source material. Romney is NOT McCain!

This is an EXTREME case we have here, you can call Romney a rino, because he is, but there is no question, we do NOT want Obama back in the WH.

The only alternative you have for THIS election is to vote Obama OUT by voting for Romney. It sucks but having Obama as POTUS four more years will be the tragedy we have now on steroids!

Vote Romney to vote against Obama!

165 posted on 07/08/2012 4:53:12 AM PDT by sirchtruth (Freedom is not free.)
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To: sirchtruth
It is EXTRAORDINARILY LIKELY THAT OBAMA WILL DECIMATE
Mr. RomneyCARE.

THAT is why Carter, Soros, Gore, Clinton, and Obama
chose the magic RINO and author of DEATH PANELS, Myth Romney.

Mitt Romney wins much coveted Jimmy Carter endorsement

Gore Praises Romney's 'Climate Protection Plan'

Carville(D):
"It's a feel-good story, this Romney thing.
Romney is an ascendant guy
."

Sen. John Kerry (D) to Don Imus on RomneyCARE:
"I like this health care bill".

Sen. Hillary Clinton (D) on RomneyCARE:
"To come up with a bipartisan plan in this polarized environment is commendable."

George Soros Wants Mitt Romney


166 posted on 07/08/2012 5:03:14 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: sirchtruth

Oust The Obamanation and his administration. We must do it!


167 posted on 07/08/2012 5:07:15 AM PDT by MEG33 (O Lord, Guide Our Nation)
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To: Finny

“You are “all ears” only for a one-note samba: ABO, defeat Obama, no matter the price. And that price would be to sanction and endorse the capitulation of the Republican Party to a statist, liberal agenda....”

Spare me the lecture.

(((((((((WHAT IS YOUR PLAN B?)))))))))

Because defeating Romney means Obama stays in office, Not BOTH have to leave.

and then what? You sit there behind your keyboard and talk for 4 more years as if these posts on FR = veto power over the stuff WE KNOW he is going to do?

Like I said, get me an alternative plan. If you dont have one then that is your problem, not mine.


168 posted on 07/08/2012 5:28:08 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: Diogenesis

“Mr. RomneyCARE cannot, on Earth, win.”

And you must not really buy that yourself seeing that you feel some need to continually spam us with this message 24/7


169 posted on 07/08/2012 5:29:46 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: Atlanticist.us
"I’m seriously conflicted."

Not surprising that the fully commie controlled "Dem" party is not conflicted. in fact, they seem rather calm and jovial with the Romney pic. The "R's", on the other hand, are fighting WWII because the liberals are fighting the conservatives right within the party!

Not to worry liberty loving Americans, soon it will all be over. Just sit back and close your eyes. It will be just like ripping off a bandaid real quick and then we can all be comrades. Smiley faces all around for the new "GOP"!

170 posted on 07/08/2012 5:51:07 AM PDT by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......? Embrace a ruler today.)
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To: Diogenesis
It is EXTRAORDINARILY LIKELY THAT OBAMA WILL DECIMATE Mr. RomneyCARE.

What are you people smoking?!!! The country sees how Obama has decimated the economy! People are PO'ed about this healthcare ruling and blame not only Obama, but the democrats. I say Romney wins a landslide if he just sits back and draws a stark economic policy difference.

Obama has destroy people's "Hope" and American's do NOT want the "Change" Obama's offering. It's that simple.

171 posted on 07/08/2012 6:07:44 AM PDT by sirchtruth (Freedom is not free.)
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To: sirchtruth
Yeah!..you go for it! Elect the flaming liberal, "R" so the Republican party can be officially and finally liberal. Then we can be even more like Europe...socialists vs socialist light.

You win the "election" but we loose the GOP for good and the country to full blow socialism...what deal! Wow you are so smart...I want what you are taking.

172 posted on 07/08/2012 6:30:08 AM PDT by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......? Embrace a ruler today.)
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To: sirchtruth
This is idiotic rubbish!

No! Hiring An anti Palin campaign director is idiotic rubbish.

173 posted on 07/08/2012 7:25:22 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (The day liberals grow up is the day tyranny ends.)
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To: Earthdweller
Elect the flaming liberal, "R" so the Republican party can be officially and finally liberal. Then we can be even more like Europe...socialists vs socialist light.

OMG, are you are living in fantasy land? What do you think the REALISTIC alternative is? It's either going to be Obama or Romney. That's it!

If you vote for anybody but Romney your essentially voting for Obama. Yeah, that's what we need!! NOT! And I disagree totally with your premise, we lose the GOP for Good. We already LOST the GOP, we have to fight another day to get it back. Think about this election and what it would really mean if Obama is elected!

Thanks for the compliment!

174 posted on 07/08/2012 8:16:18 AM PDT by sirchtruth (Freedom is not free.)
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To: Louis Foxwell
No! Hiring An anti Palin campaign director is idiotic rubbish.

That's more arrogant rubbish than the less fragrant idiotic! All Romney is going to have to do to win this election is BREATH!

175 posted on 07/08/2012 8:22:01 AM PDT by sirchtruth (Freedom is not free.)
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To: sirchtruth

I am voting for Obama. I would prefer a Satan to war against than a Judas to apologize for.


176 posted on 07/08/2012 9:38:45 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (The day liberals grow up is the day tyranny ends.)
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To: VanDeKoik
You lecture me that my posts are "lectures." {^) All I'm doing is explaining the thinking behind my choice, and all you're doing is refusing to consider it.

One more time: I've already told you my plan that is an alternative to voting FOR a politician who has advanced every major liberal agenda, and instead is a plan to weaken and help defeat the liberal AGENDA that we are guaranteed to get regardless of who wins the presidency.

You, however, disqualify it because it doesn't fit into your narrow template of "plan." Your definition is limited to "replace." And that, I am sad to say, isn't just your problem, its an ABO problem.

Now: You tell me YOUR plan for stopping Romney and moderate Republicans, joined by Democrats, from overpowering conservative opposition and implementing global warming cap-and-trade -- do you recall Romney's take on it as per the C-PAC speech in 2008? Suffice it to say American soverignty comes second with regard to "saving the planet." That's YOUR plan, whether you want to acknowledge it or not.

How about YOUR plan for stopping Romney and moderate Republicans, joined by Democrats, from overpowering conservative opposition and replacing ObamaCare with RomneyCare?

What is YOUR plan for stopping Romney and modereate Republicans, joined by Democrats, from overpowering conservative opposition and forcing the homosexual agenda on the American people?

Let's hear YOUR plan for stopping Romney, unopposed by moderates and urged on by Democrats, from appointing activist judges.

Tell me YOUR plan for increasing Republicans in Congress during the midterms when it's a fact that Congress traditionally loses seats to the same party as the President. Tell me YOUR plan for keeping the Republican party from being blamed for all the failure of the liberal agenda as advanced by Romney and moderate Republicans.

Tell me YOUR plan for "holding Romney's feet to the fire" when moderate Republicans, the GOP-e and Romnet outnumber and overpower conservative Republicans.

As a "plan," ABO is short-sighted and weak. Electing Romney to take Obama's place is like shooting your way out of the interior court of a prison while ignoring that you're going to get massacred by the armed guards on the second wall.

Your "plan" is based on panic. My plan is based on calculation.

177 posted on 07/08/2012 9:52:13 AM PDT by Finny (A deal with the devil is ALWAYS a losing proposition. Voting for Romney to avoid Obama is just that.)
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To: VanDeKoik
I forgot the most important question of all with regard to YOUR plan.

Tell us, what is YOUR plan for preventing Romney and moderates, supported by Democrats, from overpowering conservatie opposition and implementing on-demand tax-funded abortion in Romney's health care plan to replace ObamaCare? Or do you seriously believe Romney's "conversion" when he was advancing abortion two year afterward in Massachusetts?

LET'S SEE YOUR PLAN.

Why don't you just face facts: your only plan is to tuck tail and surrender to the liberal agenda.

178 posted on 07/08/2012 10:03:00 AM PDT by Finny (A deal with the devil is ALWAYS a losing proposition. Voting for Romney to avoid Obama is just that.)
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To: sirchtruth; Earthdweller
What do you think the REALISTIC alternative is?

EDweller, isn't it so ironic that the folks who are indulging in the fantasy that Romney wouldn't be so bad, are claiming that they are the "realists"?

Then, these so-called "realists" indulge in the mathematical and material (both) fallacy that "if you vote for anybody but Romney, you're essentially voting for Obama." It is numerically false and illustrates the worst kind of entitlement thinking.

These so-called "realists" gamble that sanctioning as the most powerful Republican in the U.S. and the most powerful American in the world, a guy with a demonstrated record of advancing every single major liberal agenda we've been voting GOP all these years to oppose, would somehow make room to "fight another day to get the GOP back."

When all these self-described "realists" faced the real reality, they would find that they had decimated their own troops for fighting "another day."

We face a most unusual and fortunate blessing: Obama is despised by many of those who supported him last time, so there is very little chance he could ever get a majority, so of all years to risk third party tactics, THIS year is one. Unless a miracle happens (and they do happen!) to prevent an O v R contest, there is only ONE WAY a conservative can use his presidential vote to help the conservatives he'll vote for downticket.

That is to vote official third party (mathematically and materially neutral with regard to favoring either Obama or Romney) to help split the popular vote into a plurality so that the winner, be it Obama or Romney, is opposed by the majority of voters, conspicuously lacks a mandate, and is put on defense. The last time a president "won" when 57% of Americans voted against him -- Clinton in '92 -- he was so vulnerable that Congress revolted to the benefit of his opposing party, the Republicans. The Republican Revolution would probably never have happened if Clinton had won with a majority or if HW had been re-elected.

THAT is Realville. Subscribing to the ol' "Hope he'll change" rationale to support voting for Romney, is diving head-first into Fantasyland.

179 posted on 07/08/2012 10:32:14 AM PDT by Finny (A deal with the devil is ALWAYS a losing proposition. Voting for Romney to avoid Obama is just that.)
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To: Finny

“I forgot the most important question of all with regard to YOUR plan.
Tell us, what is YOUR plan for preventing Romney and moderates, supported by Democrats, from overpowering conservatie opposition and implementing on-demand tax-funded abortion in Romney’s health care plan to replace ObamaCare? Or do you seriously believe Romney’s “conversion” when he was advancing abortion two year afterward in Massachusetts?

LET’S SEE YOUR PLAN.

Why don’t you just face facts: your only plan is to tuck tail and surrender to the liberal agenda.”

You want to know what it is?

GET THE KNOWN QUANTITY (OBAMA) OUT OF OFFICE.

Te truth is that your so-called plan is nothing but some internet jockey thinking he is going to go to the GOP convention and force the majority of pledged delegates to dump their canidate that currently leads Obama in polls and has just raised 100 million dollars in one month for some unknown person that you cannot even name let alone give any indication that they would even have a ghost of a chance of winning one county.

You think you are going to lead some fantasy crusade to topple both major party candidates with s*it in the bank, s*it for a campaign machine, and s*it of an idea EXACTLY how you are going to pull that off!

And yet you call ME short-sighted? Why? Because I’m concentrating on the guy we were told was the greatest evil to ever occupy the White House instead of acting like the guy running against him IS FOR SURE??

Sorry. I’d rather take my chances with maybe than 100% certain. You guys had your damn chance to defeat Romney fair and square but you all wanted to be cute and screw around during the primaries, running like cowards at every little negative ad and MSM report when it came to Perry, Cain, and Newt. Tossing everyone overboard whenever you smelled the hint of not being pure enough for you. Well you know what? Tough cookies there because when it’s go time to get rid of Obama, I’m not participating in some drama-queen antics to try to install what you were too damn stupid to do when you were supposed to and hope for the best.

My plan gets rid of the guy in the White House. Your’s might maybe do something....perhaps, not sure....but it could if we try really hard and yell on the internet.


180 posted on 07/08/2012 10:35:40 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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