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Posted on 06/11/2012 5:41:04 AM PDT by plenipotentiary
I remember the article that claimed that Ann left the baby behind in Hawaii; I don’t remember that Rick Anderson (is that the name?) was married to SAD’s cousin. Can you reprise the evidence for that? Which cousin is or was he married to?
There is no evidence Stanley was in Honolulu prior to 1967. All you have is a letter from Hawaii and it is false like much of the rest of the material received from corrupt Hawaii officials.
Exact same argument. You for some bizarre reason, only want to believe the latter half of the letter. How do you know she was in Hawaii from 1963-1966 and not in Moscow or Mars?
You have seen more that I ought to give you about the interview with Barry which was done when he was in Boston purportedly going to law school--in it he clearly says he went to Indonesia when he was two--that would be 1963.
I have seen the wire story. Obama does not "clearly say" anything, because it is not a direct quote. That is what the reporter and only the reporter clearly says. The reporter also clearly says Obama went to Indonesia when his mother Stanley Anne married an Indonesian man. So, there is no testimony either direct or indirect that Obama ever said he left his mother behind in Hawaii. You are picking and choosing again.
Facts are Barry went to Indonesia in early 1963
Interesting idea, but you have so far failed to prove this.
it may be that Stanley took him but she was in fact in school at U of Hawaii in early 63
What evidence do you have she was at UHawaii in early 1963 that doesn't also say she was there in Late 1960?
she delivered him to the Soebarkah's. She didn't see him again until sometime after 1966 according to Lia, the housemaid.
Now, this actually sounds interesting and something that might actually prove part of what you're saying. Do you have a cite for this quote by "Lia," outside your imagination, of course? , the original record is there was never a child on capital hill at the Toutonghi's boarding house.
What "original record" is this?
a wire story in which he says he went to Indonesia at age 2 which would be 1963.
The only problem is, Barry doesn't say this, the reporter does. He might have been laying out something closer to the (phony) story in "Dreams," - "My father Barack Obama left the family when I was 2, and then my mother got a divorce and remarried an Indonesian man where I was raised until I was 10." The AP reporter paraphrases (not quotes), this as, "“Obama moved to Southeast Asia at age 2 when his parents divorced and his mother married an Indonesian,” .
Now, you are taking as gospel the beginning of the sentence, "Obama moved to Southeast Asia at age 2." Do you take as gospel the entire sentence from AP? That "age 2" is "when... his mother married an Indonesian"? In fact, every record we have is that the Anne Dunham married Soetoro the Indonesian in 1966. Not 1963.
Stanley did start college at University of Hawaii at exactly that time in 1963 and attended continuously through 1966.
Yes, she restarted in 1963 through 1966.
No Barry seen anywhere in Hawaii with Stanley, her mother, or anyone else.
Not true. There are photographs of him in a Hawaiian kindergarten class, at the beach in Hawaii and the zoo in Hawaii for those years, off the top of my head.
I realize that I’m coming in on the middle of this conversation. That old news article, written when he was handed the position as editor (or president, whichever) of the Harvard Law Review, did say he went to Indonesia when he was two. Lia, his adopted sister, said that Ann was in Indonesia with Lolo and Ann told Lia that she was going to Hawaii to “pick” her a new brother and bring him back to Indonesia. This took place when Barry was about 6. So which story do we believe? This is the situation with most “facts” about Obama’s life history. They are ever-changing. He’s a chameleon.
I realize that I’m coming in on the middle of this conversation. That old news article, written when he was handed the position as editor (or president, whichever) of the Harvard Law Review, did say he went to Indonesia when he was two. Lia, his adopted sister, said that Ann was in Indonesia with Lolo and Ann told Lia that she was going to Hawaii to “pick” her a new brother and bring him back to Indonesia. This took place when Barry was about 6. So which story do we believe? This is the situation with most “facts” about Obama’s life history. They are ever-changing. He’s a chameleon.
I should have said “reappeared” there first. Sorry. You won’t find it at Trowbridge’s because she has made her blog subscription only.
That sounds interesting. It contradicts your Indonesia theory, though.
I think there was some speculation on an old thread that there was some kind of Communist daycare on Kalanianaole Highway... maybe there were pictures? Or maybe he was being babysat by NASA scientists on the Air Force base down there in Hawaii.
it wasn't credible to believe Stanley would have done that had she been the real mother.
She was a weirdo, she might have. She also might not have had a choice in the matter, either.
Mark
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She went to the Commie daycare in Hawaii to choose between Roman Obama and Barry Dunham-Davis?
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May be! :)
“NOW CHECK OUT THE ‘TEACHERS’ VIDEO:
http://seattlest.com/2008/01/30/obamas_mixed_an.php
“In the first one it clearly states she spent one year in Seattle and then TWO YEARS at the high school. “
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The person videotaped asserting that “fact” is Tim Jones, reporter, Chicago Tribune.
His exact quote:”...but her formative years were spent in the Pacific NorthWest-—one year in Seattle and two years in a semi-rural island just east of Seattle called Mercer Island.”
If that interview was conducted around the time-frame of the post date, Jan 30, 2008, I find it odd that it directly conflicts with his critically acclaimed and oft-cited article, dated March 27, 2007, in which Jones states,
“Obama visited the Seattle area last October, and in a speech to a Democratic Party rally at Bellevue Community College, he mentioned that his mother attended Mercer Island High School before moving on to Hawaii. In “Dreams,” Obama wrote that the family moved to Seattle “long enough for my mother to finish high school.””
“But her stop was more than some educational cup of coffee; Obama’s mother spent 8th grade through high school here. Four of those five years were spent on Mercer Island, a 5-mile-long, South America-shaped stretch of Douglas firs and cedars, just across from Seattle in Lake Washington.”
Obama’s mom: Not just a girl from Kansas
Regardless, as far as I have been able to determine, reporter Jones has never publicly offered a reason how his 5 years in Washington became 3 years in Washington (or vice versa).
In the grand scheme of things, it may not be important, but IMO it lends credence to the likelihood of SAD’s absence from Washington that senior (12th grade) year and, as you both mentioned, fits into the 1959 Chicago au pair/Black Orpheus scenario-—the date the movie played in Chicago was pegged down to a certainty here on FR.
Also, Chip Wall oddly points to his senior yearbook photo in the video interview, but not SAD’s.
David: Off-the-wall question: Did Mercer Island high school have what I think had been called “advanced placement” -— an opportunity whereby a student could fulfill requirements and graduate at the end of the 11th grade and proceed to college? Off the wall because I think had that been the case with SAD, her friends and teachers would have been proud (and permitted) to discuss.
FN: Had we not also established that father Stanley departed Washington for Hawaii in 1959, rather than 1960?
In the series: # 296 and # 297 for Third and Fourth posts by David.
Thanks, David. We appreciate your updates.
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Here you go, I can’t be bothered posting the same images again for the umpteenth time, what he’s doing is trying desperately to turn THE MODEL into Stanley Ann Dunham.
He’s clutching it like a drowning man clinging to a life-raft.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2895490/posts?page=246#246
Time in Lebanon?
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