arasina: 'Europeans who have passed the stage of socialism into communism wave flags only because their dictators force them to do it.' ZC: Yes, but can you imagine a Communist dictator of a Communist USA forcing Americans to wave the American flag?
I can, if the "fundamental transformation" had been achieved and America had moved from capitalism to socialism to communism, that is. The flag Americans would be waving would look slightly different than it currently does and its meaning would have changed significantly. Perhaps something like this:
However, I imagine perhaps it would include a color change to black, red and green as is the "African-American" flag:
ZC: Ireland doesn't have a dictator, but they have lots of flag-waving, patriotic, nationalistic socialists. Or is that national socialists?
If they are national socialists, they are essentially Nazis without the stigma and stain of antisemitism, no?
While your points are well taken, I don't think you're understanding the point I am trying to make: that our true counterpart of the left elsewhere is not the American "left" but the "patriot movement." The nationalism, resentment of "foreign devils," and desire for true sovereignty instead of a phony one actually ruled by foreigners (ZOG, anyone?), appeals to heroic ancestors . . . it all fits. As a matter of fact, some "palaeocon" organizations, like the neo-Confederate "League of the South" have actually had positive contacts for years with the Parti Quebecois (and it wouldn't surprise me if they don't also have ties with some of the left wing Celtic nationalist organizations). Now, the League of the South is "anti-Socialist" while their good buddies in the Parti Quebecois are members of the Socialist International. So the same "socialism" that is the enemy of Southern identity is the friend of Quebecois identity.
Is it making any more sense now?
How many people are aware of the fact that our "patriot movement" is in fact the successor to the late nineteenth century Populist left who supported William Jennings Bryan? The Bryanites were Bible-thumping Southern and Western socialist farmers who hated capitalist pig Eastern Bankers. Their descendants today are Bible-thumping Southern and Western capitalist businessmen who hate "Illuminati-Insider" Eastern Bankers.
Does this make my point any clearer?