[Zionist Conspirator]

While your points are well taken, I don't think you're understanding the point I am trying to make: that our true counterpart of the left elsewhere is not the American "left" but the "patriot movement." The nationalism, resentment of "foreign devils," and desire for true sovereignty instead of a phony one actually ruled by foreigners (ZOG, anyone?), appeals to heroic ancestors . . . it all fits. As a matter of fact, some "palaeocon" organizations, like the neo-Confederate "League of the South" have actually had positive contacts for years with the Parti Quebecois (and it wouldn't surprise me if they don't also have ties with some of the left wing Celtic nationalist organizations). Now, the League of the South is "anti-Socialist" while their good buddies in the Parti Quebecois are members of the Socialist International. So the same "socialism" that is the enemy of Southern identity is the friend of Quebecois identity.

Is it making any more sense now?

How many people are aware of the fact that our "patriot movement" is in fact the successor to the late nineteenth century Populist left who supported William Jennings Bryan? The Bryanites were Bible-thumping Southern and Western socialist farmers who hated capitalist pig Eastern Bankers. Their descendants today are Bible-thumping Southern and Western capitalist businessmen who hate "Illuminati-Insider" Eastern Bankers.

Does this make my point any clearer?

[lentulusgracchus]

The Bryanites were Bible-thumping Southern and Western socialist farmers who hated capitalist pig Eastern Bankers.

I question the identification of Southern Populists as "socialists". Some urban "Progressives" might have been, but socialism has always moved hand-in-hand with Central European statism, through the importation of Forty-Eighters (socialist Germans) and socialist German Jews (the same ones Hitler exterminated right after the Anschluss), all of whom were statists in some degree or other.

A populist believes in the People, a statist in the supremacy of the State. Jeffersonian rural populists were anti-statist and, because bankers were pigs-at-the-trough statists and access-capitalists (Hamiltonians in other words, whose beau ideal was "Empire without the King"), the populists opposed them both before and after the ravages of the gold standard led them to embrace Free Silver and William Jennings Bryan.

My grandfather worshipped Bryan; he also was a "lunch-bucket Democrat" and Al Smith man (because Smith was Irish Catholic, like him), and not an urban socialist/prog/Communist. He spat on such people, despised the people around FDR and especially Eleanor. He said, significantly, that he voted for Franklin Roosevelt once.

No, Jeffersonian populists were not statist socialists, German-style. They didn't like empires, and they didn't like banks that liked empires. Neither did Jefferson or Jackson.