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To: JD_UTDallas

Good grief, the one with a police record was the one holding a gun over a dead seventeen year old kid. Everyone ignores that fact. As to the rest of your post, haven’t you heard about due process? That was not afforded to Martin. Again, the two lead investigators did not believe Zimmermans’s story. I guess the LEO are also partisan hacks. Sorry Zimmerman’s actions are questionable. Still waiting to see the medical records. Zimmerman’s attorney could release them tomorrow, there is no HIPPA conflict. There will be no release of medical records charting severe head and facial injuries becuase no such records exist. Zimmerman is not a hero.


50 posted on 04/27/2012 10:18:36 PM PDT by BLOC77 (bloc07)
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To: BLOC77

Don’t know what your problem is but you’ve got one.

It makes no difference if he was 17 in terms of what happened.

If he brought this on by jumping Zimmerman and pummeling him and slamming his head down, and the possession of the gun was an issue as well, who gets hold of it and uses it, then it’s kill or be killed.

If this happened to you or yours, it wouldn’t matter to you if the perp was 17 or not, or whether he had a gun or not, or whether you had ever had a run in with police.

None of that matters. All that matters is what happened.

You are heavily into loaded propaganda statements that have nothing to do with anything.

Kids much younger than T have killed, maimed, etc. people much older than themselves. Happens all the time.

Yours is just useless drivel.

It’s called “begging the question”.

The sign of a bad case you’re trying to make good.


51 posted on 04/28/2012 12:06:31 AM PDT by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR" - Glenn Beck)
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To: BLOC77
You are delusional, there is no evidence that he was holding a gun over Martin, you are making that up. The ballistics show that the shot was fired up and threw Martin indicating that Zimmerman was on the ground on his back when he fired. This is supported by EVIDENCE of his shirt being wet on the back covered with wet grass. The EVIDENCE also shows that he had impact and lacerations to the back of his head consistent not with impact of fists but with pavement.

As for your severe brain trauma meme I boxed for a number of years and have been TKO and KO in the ring only once suffering a true concussion. Let me be clear you can be knocked completely unconscious and not suffer "brain trauma" or concussion. You are talking out your A$$.

I have 8 years federal law enforcement experience 4 of that has a high level crime scene investigator so yes I am an expert in this field. The evidence released so far clearly shows that Zimmerman was under attack and furthermore that his gun was about to be compromised, your little cute 12yo had his hand on the top of the gun that is why it failed to cycle the round out of the chamber Keltecs are reliable weapons the only way of failure is to have a second set of hands on the weapon. He was not a 17yo kid he was a 6'3" 17yo MAN who attacked a armed man from behind at night. Zimmerman can be heard to say OK to the you do not need to follow him request and turn back to his vehicle that is corroborated by witnesses who then saw 2 men in a struggle with one man on the ground and another on top of him well guess what sunshine the ballistics show that it was Martin on top if the shot would have been down with Zimmerman on top 1 you would have a shell casing ejected at the crime scene and more importantly 2 the bullet path through Martin would be horizontal with the bullet passing in to the ground behind him. Well guess what the bullet went up and through skittles boy and anyone who has professional knowledge of ballistics which I have years of experience with knows that occurs when you are shoot from below not above.

Due process get a grip you are in no position to lecture anyone about constitutional law. As for lead investigators believing him or not that is irrelevant they do not make the decision to prosecute or not they present evidence to the DA and then to a grand jury as to whether someone is to be brought up on charges. The DA takes in to account the evidence as presented by the LEO and the Investigators then has to make that case to a grand jury for a capital crime or in this case the DA went rouge and took the SD route which she will lose. I am waiting to see the toxicology reports on Martin I would bet 100 bucks he not only has marijuana in his system but he was actively high when he was shot.

Let the FACTS come out those supported by evidence not your feelings it does not matter if a single person "believes" Zimmerman what matters in a court of law is fact and evidence can you PROVE he was not acting in self defence, can you prove he had malicious intent which is a requisite for second degree.

Looking in to Zimmermans background this guy is a community leader at the request of his community they made him the captain of the watch, well respected, by all races. He welcomed Blacks in to his home, doing charity work with underprivileged Black children and is part Black himself as much or more so in percentage than our "dear leader" who is only 5-7% Black and 45% arab. His "violent" past he pushed a UNDERCOVER cop who was trying to man handle one of his friends; turns out later that he was trying to arrest one of his friends but in a dark club all Zimmerman saw was his younger and weaker friend getting man handled and came to his aide, we are seeing a pattern here Zimmerman is a protector, a giver and a nurturer. His domestic incidencs were such that his partner also got a TRO put in her, as any law enforcement officers knows when mutual TRO's are granted then both parties got physical and Zimmerman could have been defending himself against a violent girl friend. Believe me I know how fired up Latina women can get I still have a chunk of pencil lead in my arm after being stabbed by a former Latina girlfriend. Again these incidence were years ago , so much so they had no bearing on his issuance of a CCW permit. Get a grip and wait for all the FACTS to come out in the trial.

58 posted on 04/28/2012 10:17:24 AM PDT by JD_UTDallas ("Veni Vidi Vici")
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To: BLOC77

‘due process’ only comes into play after afterwards when you have arrested and you are trying a person in a court of law

not when you are on your back fighting for your life


79 posted on 04/28/2012 12:59:26 PM PDT by Mr. K (If Romney wins the primary, I am writing-in PALIN)
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