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Romney vs Obama: One Critical Difference We Can't Ignore
Me ^ | 4-17-2012 | Me

Posted on 04/17/2012 12:52:07 AM PDT by Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh

I am beyond disappointed that the RINO Republican establishment has saddled us once again with a scum sucking moderate. Jim Robinson has expressed his non-support of mitt Romney in no uncertain terms. I wholeheartedly agree with his disgust.

The reason that the establishment wants Romney as opposed to a true conservative is status quo. The Republican establishment is just as guilty as mainstream Democrats. They are making money off a system that is fundamentally broken. Their only concern is who is steering a sinking ship.

However, there is one critical difference between Romney and Obama. It is a difference we cannot ignore. Barack Obama hates the united states of America. Barack Obama believes that the USA needs to be taken down a notch. Barack Obama apologizes for our history. Barack Obama believes that the core foundation of our country is rotten. Barack Obama believes that the "so-called founding fathers" we're Evil and to blame.

The Republican establishment may well have saddled us with the one piece of crap candidate who can actually lose to Barack Obama. I can't stomach the idea of voting for a left of center RINO like Mitt Romney.

However, mitt Romney does not hate America. There is no more pressing danger and threat to our country than Barack Obama in the hard-core socialist communist left wing.

I did not want George Bush. I did not want John McCain. I do not want mitt Romney. I am sick of the Republican establishment counting on me to vote for their mainstream moderate candidates simply because they know I will not abandon ship. In essence, they take true conservatives for granted.

We should not take our ball and go home just because we are not winning this time. There will be no third-party candidate. A vote for anyone other than that Romney come election time will be a vote for Barack Obama. I don't care how much I dislike Mitt Romney. And nothing anyone here can say can make something positively untrue true. Barack Obama and Romney are not the same. The one critical difference is that Barack Obama hates this country and secretly or not so secretly wishes to destroy this country and change its future for the worse.

We got stuck with Bill Clinton because of disillusioned conservatives who voted for Ross Perot. Surely we are smart enough people to learn from the past.


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To: monocle
Romney 4,595,908
Santorum 3,209,301
Gingrich 2,284,557
Paul 1,191,026

Vote totals so far. Whether you like it or not, I personally loathe it, a plurality of the GOP electorate, not the GOP ESTABLISHMENT, voted for Romney. Now we must concentrate on how best to kick Obama out of office.

Or another way to look at these numbers: the "establishment" didn't "ram Romney down our throats", we did it to ourselves, by dividing our vote:

5.6 million conservative vs 4.6 million Romney.

And I'm not even counting Ron Paul, which is arguably beyond hope.

WE rammed Romney down our own throats by not sticking together.

Once the first big conservative vote was in from South Carolina (Iowa is not big and NH is not conservative) we should have COALESCED behind the winner and we would have 5.6 million votes for the non-Romney candidate.

But we conservatives don't know how to coalesce. We don't know how to work together. We only know how to bitch and moan about the "establishment" after we divide our clear majority into 2 non-working minorities.

We. Are. Stupid.

51 posted on 04/17/2012 4:43:22 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: Bulwinkle

So Romney would give 2 or 3 John Paul Stevens-type justices (a la Ford), vs. 2 or 3 Ruth Bader Ginsburgs.

Well, that makes all the difference. /s


52 posted on 04/17/2012 4:45:26 AM PDT by ScottinVA (A single drop of American blood for muslims is one drop too many!)
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To: RDCOOPER101
There’s absolutely little NO! difference between these candidates. If Romney emerges out of the convention this summer as the nominee then the establishment has lost the race before it even begins.

That is exactly right. Except for the color of their skin and the (R) and the (D) next to their printed name there is no difference.

53 posted on 04/17/2012 4:49:32 AM PDT by .30Carbine (God bless you with the spirit of wisdom and understanding)
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To: jespasinthru
When you go to the polls this November, please remember that you are not only voting for president. You will also be voting to replace current Senators and House representatives. This is where the power lies. These are the people who control our money, not the president. If we can get rid of enough of those Socialist Democrats and tired old RINO’s who have helped to enable Obama, then we just might have a chance of saving the Republic. You can’t afford to stay home on election day, no matter how much you dislike Romney.

Don't forget who gets to appoint Supreme Court Justices. If Obama gets to replace Kennedy the Constitution will be abolished.

54 posted on 04/17/2012 4:52:27 AM PDT by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: jersey117

You are a cowardly fear-monger and you ought to leave Free Republic.


55 posted on 04/17/2012 4:54:28 AM PDT by .30Carbine (God bless you with the spirit of wisdom and understanding)
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To: Markos33

As Glenn Beck pointed out MITT ROMNEY IS NOT A COMMUNIST


56 posted on 04/17/2012 4:59:39 AM PDT by wetgundog (" Extremism in the Defense of Liberty is no Vice")
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To: raybbr

If you entertain the thought that (R)Money will appoint conservative, principled judges you are living in fairy land.


57 posted on 04/17/2012 4:59:45 AM PDT by .30Carbine (God bless you with the spirit of wisdom and understanding)
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To: .30Carbine

Prove it. We KNOW Obama will appoint another marxist to the SC. You want another Kagan or Sotomayor? How about Bill Ayers? Yeah, I’d rather take my chances with Romney appointing a SC justice than Obama.


58 posted on 04/17/2012 5:10:17 AM PDT by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh

Romney knows there are not 57 states.

Romney would not have canceled the F-22 program.

Romney would not have canceled the American space program.

Romney didn’t smoke pot in college.

Romney may not be (in a million years is not) my favorite candidate, but he’s most certainly preferable to four more years of Obama.

It is absurd the comparison is even being made.


59 posted on 04/17/2012 5:14:04 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Is Buffett's comfort with "Obama" simply comfort with the word "Omaha" his home and birthplace?)
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To: raybbr
Governor Mitt Romney, who touts his conservative credentials to out-of-state Republicans, has passed over GOP lawyers for three-quarters (75%) of the 36 judicial vacancies he has faced, instead tapping registered Democrats or independents – including two gay lawyers who have supported expanded same-sex rights.

Of the 36 people Romney named to be judges or clerk magistrates, 23 are either registered Democrats or unenrolled voters who have made multiple contributions to Democratic politicians or who voted in Democratic primaries, state and local records show. In all, he has nominated nine registered Republicans, 13 unenrolled voters, and 14 registered Democrats.

Source.

60 posted on 04/17/2012 5:21:31 AM PDT by .30Carbine (God bless you with the spirit of wisdom and understanding)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

You are actively campaigning for Romney on a website owned by a heroic man who says he doesn’t want you to do that! What is the matter with you?


61 posted on 04/17/2012 5:23:08 AM PDT by .30Carbine (God bless you with the spirit of wisdom and understanding)
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To: .30Carbine

See ya Mr. .30 Carbine.

http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2012/04/17/ted-nugent-declares-i-will-either-be-dead-or-in-jail-if-obama-is-re-elected/?mod=wsj_share_twitter


62 posted on 04/17/2012 5:32:42 AM PDT by jersey117 (The Stepford Media should be sued for malpractice)
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To: raybbr

With Romney and a strong conservative congress we will at least have the opportunity to influence who gets appointed to the courts, like stopping Bush with his Harriet Miers suggestion. With Obama as president, we have absolutely zero opportunity to do so, and I don’t have the faith in the GOP congress to stand strong and vote down all Obama’s nominees all the time. Even if we do, he will simply disregard it and make recess appointments.

Whether we like it or not, the battle is in, and for the courts. Obama will make sure that all federal courts are ultra-liberal for the next generation at least. No chance of getting Roe v Wade repealed. The end of the 2nd amendment as we know it. States forced to recognize other states gay marriages. And so on.

Yes, Romney doesn’t have a strong record for appointing conservative judges, but if he is the nominee, and ultimately the president, then we can put all kinds of pressure on him to nominate conservative judges. With Obama, we can’t, and won’t. It is a crappy position to be in, and reason #1 that Newt should be president. But having a Republican of some sort as president is still better than having Obama, who will turn the federal judicial system into a communist rubber stamp.

I will be voting against Obama.


63 posted on 04/17/2012 5:35:42 AM PDT by Ironfocus (Unseat the Looter-in-Chief)
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To: Markos33

I disagree. Obama belongs in prison, I can’t say that about Romney, Not yet, anyway.


64 posted on 04/17/2012 5:36:18 AM PDT by Quickgun (Second Amendment. The only one you can put your hands on.)
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To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh

Amen Brother, this story hits the nail on the head.


65 posted on 04/17/2012 5:43:43 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh

It’s not just about the person who will sit behind the Resolute desk. We must not forget the President’s cabinet, his advisors, and others that influenced his political ideology ? For Obama we all have become familiar with names like;

Bill Ayers,
George Soros
Cass Sunstein
Van Jones
Debbie Wasserman Schultz
Frances Fox Piven
Reverend Write.

We are still in the Primary process, and if someone is still pinning their hopes on Newt, then by all means go for it and good luck. But comes Aug 27th when the GOP convention is in full swing, If Newt is not the nominee, they need to start thinking about the people Romney will bring into his administration, and who shapes his ideology. Do we want a whole new set of names or are we good for another 4-years with the names above?

I proudly stand with the other Cain, Bachmann, Perry, and now Santorum supporters that are in now in the fight for Anybody But Obama. I hope there is still room for us on FR, but I will not be shaken from my firm belief that we must send


66 posted on 04/17/2012 5:45:41 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: gunsequalfreedom
Nope, not buying that one. Ross Perot has nothing to do with this conversation.

Then you are one of those who fail to learn from history.

I don't like the choices either, but denying the reality and assuming a make believe fantasy that some elites are going to "learn a lesson" by you staying home and letting BHO win in November in naive and will be still more damaging to the country.

Obama will go on an all out spending spree, will not sign any Repub budgets therefore we will be in perpetual continuing resolutions to our ruin; He will continue to commit treason with our national secrets and treasure; He will continue to villianize the best industries of our nations; he will continue to staff his executive branch with die-hard communists and squash development through "environmental" concerns; He will continue to ignore/pander to/sympathize with the Islamo-fascist third world; He will continue to be seen as weak and exploitable by our adversaries.

I don't see any of this coming from Romney, no matter how much he loves looking at his hair in the mirror.

67 posted on 04/17/2012 5:46:42 AM PDT by Magnum44 (Terrorism is a disease, precise application of superior firepower is the cure)
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To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh

It’s not just about the person who will sit behind the Resolute desk. We must not forget the President’s cabinet, his advisors, and others that influenced his political ideology ? For Obama we all have become familiar with names like;

Bill Ayers,
George Soros
Cass Sunstein
Van Jones
Debbie Wasserman Schultz
Frances Fox Piven
Reverend Write.

We are still in the Primary process, and if someone is still pinning their hopes on Newt, then by all means go for it and good luck. But comes Aug 27th when the GOP convention is in full swing, If Newt is not the nominee, they need to start thinking about the people Romney will bring into his administration, and who shapes his ideology. Do we want a whole new set of names or are we good for another 4-years with the names above?

I proudly stand with the other Cain, Bachmann, Perry, and now Santorum supporters that are in now in the fight for Anybody But Obama. I hope there is still room for us on FR, but I will not be shaken from my firm belief that we must send that America hating commie loving A-hole back to Chicago.


68 posted on 04/17/2012 5:47:29 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: NavyCanDo; Ironfocus
...we must send that America hating commie loving A-hole back to Chicago.

It won't happen with Mitt Romney running against him.

To the Members of the Log Cabin Club of Massachusetts:

I am writing to thank the Log Cabin Club of Massachusetts for the advice and support you have given me during my campaign for the US Senate and to seek the Club's formal endorsement of my election. The Log Cabin Club has played a vital role in reinvigorating the Republican Party in Massachusetts and your endorsement is important to me because it will provide further confirmation that my campaign and approach to government is consistent with the values and vision of government we share. I am pleased to have had an opportunity to talk with you and to meet many of you personally during your September meeting. I learned a great deal from those discussions and many thoughtful questions you posed. As a result of our discussions and other interactions with gay and lesbian voters across the state, I am more convinced than ever before that as we seek to establish full equality for America's gay and lesbian citizens, I will provide more effective leadership than my opponent.

I am not unaware of my opponents considerable record in the area of civil rights, or the commitment of Massachusetts voters to the principle of equality for all Americans. For some voters it might be enough for me to simply match my opponent's record in this area. But I believe we can and must do better. If we are to achieve the goals we share, we must make equality for gays and lesbians a mainstream concern. My opponent cannot do this. I can and will.

We have discussed a number of important issues such as the Federal Employee Nondiscrimination Act (ENDA), which I have agreed to co-sponsor, and if possible broaden to include housing and credit, and the bill to create a federal panel to find ways to reduce gay and lesbian youth suicide, which I also support. One issue I want to clarify concerns President Clinton's "don't ask, don't tell, don't pursue" military policy. I believe that the Clinton compromise was a step in the right direction. I am also convinced that it is the first of a number of steps that will ultimately lead to gays and lesbians being able to serve openly and honestly in our nation's military. That goal will only be reached when preventing discrimination against gays and lesbians is a mainstream concern, which is a goal we share.

As we begin the final phase of this campaign, I need your support more than ever. By working together, we will achieve the goals we share for Massachusetts and our nation.

Sincerely

W. Mitt Romney 


69 posted on 04/17/2012 6:04:47 AM PDT by .30Carbine (God bless you with the spirit of wisdom and understanding)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Romney would not have canceled the F-22 program.

Romney would not have canceled the American space program.

***

Don’t be so sure. Given Romney’s track record as Governor, nothing would surprise me.


70 posted on 04/17/2012 6:05:25 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: ScottinVA

Sounds as if you’re going to pick up your marbles and go home. That is a tactic that not only aids the enemy but also betrays your allies.


71 posted on 04/17/2012 6:06:53 AM PDT by monocle
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To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh

One thing bothers me ....the Troll-OBots in here will now be focussed solely on dumping on Romney. I hate to admit this; but, lately, on this particular topic, it’s getting hard to tell FReepers from OBots. Is it just me? It must be really confusing to the average person who drops by for a read.


72 posted on 04/17/2012 6:11:13 AM PDT by Scooter100 ("Now that the fog has lifted, I still can't find my pipe". --- S. Holmes)
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To: monocle

Hell no... I’m still voting.

And once again, here we are with the “gotta vote for this pathetic RINO because look at the alternative” bit. WHEN, pray tell, will that game end?


73 posted on 04/17/2012 6:13:26 AM PDT by ScottinVA (A single drop of American blood for muslims is one drop too many!)
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To: Scooter100
One thing bothers me ....the Troll-OBots in here will now be focussed solely on dumping on Romney.

So, let me get this straight... NOT buying in to Romney's faux-conservative play-acting constitutes being a closeted O-Bot.

Got it.

74 posted on 04/17/2012 6:18:08 AM PDT by ScottinVA (A single drop of American blood for muslims is one drop too many!)
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To: samtheman

That is exactly my point all the rants about this candidate or that candidate or about going the third party route are self defeating. The loudest rants come from those who refuse to look in the mirror and take some responsibility for the mess we now ourselves in. The volatility this primary cycle suggests how divided conservatives are and how willing they are to surrender to the liberals.


75 posted on 04/17/2012 6:21:50 AM PDT by monocle
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To: .30Carbine
Thanks for posting that. All the more reason not to support Romney. I don't know WTH is going to prominent "conservatives'" minds, throwing their support -- and reputation -- behind that loser.

Lest we forget... in 2008, Romney couldn't even take down McCain, who lost in a landslide to Obama. So, how does THIS current arrangement make any sense whatsoever???

76 posted on 04/17/2012 6:22:46 AM PDT by ScottinVA (A single drop of American blood for muslims is one drop too many!)
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To: monocle
The loudest rants come from those who refuse to look in the mirror and take some responsibility for the mess we now ourselves in.

In Virginia, only Romney and Paul appeared on the primary ballot, with no write-in options. I'm not "owning" this problem.

77 posted on 04/17/2012 6:25:03 AM PDT by ScottinVA (A single drop of American blood for muslims is one drop too many!)
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To: jersey117

If Romney wins the presidency, we may have a chance to throw him out in 4 years. If Obama wins, we may not even have elections any more. We will probably have CWII before this decade is over, Maybe sooner than later if Zero stays in office. We live in interesting times.....I will support Newt until he either wins it or is out of it.


78 posted on 04/17/2012 6:26:47 AM PDT by Quickgun (Second Amendment. The only one you can put your hands on.)
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To: Scooter100
Mitt Romney is my guy, because Mitt Romney.... is not ....a communist!

I assume this was said as a joke. One of the most fervent anti-communists of the last century was Adolf Hitler, so it is obviously not the sole standard for selecting a good candidate.

79 posted on 04/17/2012 6:28:50 AM PDT by CommerceComet (If Mitt can leave the GOP to protest Reagan, why can't I do the same in protest of Romney?)
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To: ScottinVA

When we the people start acting as adults and stop stomping our feet to get our way. I will gag as I vote for the GOP candidate but will find a modicum respect in the fact I at least did what I could to slow Comrade Obama’s mad rush to dictatorial socialism.


80 posted on 04/17/2012 6:31:24 AM PDT by monocle
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To: monocle

Careful now, you are using logic and math. ; )


81 posted on 04/17/2012 6:38:36 AM PDT by jdsteel (Give me freedom, not more government.)
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To: Quickgun
If Romney wins the presidency, we may have a chance to throw him out in 4 years.

Of course we will have a chance. We can primary him in 4 years if he starts to go off the reservation. Unlike the rats, we obviously wouldn't have the fear of going up against mitt. If obama gets four more, you know Biden isn't going to last through the duration. Some radical VP will be put in his place to carry the communist torch. We won't have a remote shot at a conservative in 2016 once he's fully entrenched in his second term.

82 posted on 04/17/2012 6:39:44 AM PDT by jersey117 (The Stepford Media should be sued for malpractice)
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To: monocle
The volatility this primary cycle suggests how divided conservatives are and how willing they are to surrender to the liberals.

Yet, it appears to me that your solution to the problem is to surrender the Republican Party to its liberal wing. I'd vote for a moderate and I'd vote for a left-leaning moderate but I won't vote for a man whose record has shown him to be consistently liberal just because he has an R behind his name. I said back in early 2008 that I could hold my nose and vote for McCain but not Romney.

83 posted on 04/17/2012 6:41:48 AM PDT by CommerceComet (If Mitt can leave the GOP to protest Reagan, why can't I do the same in protest of Romney?)
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To: ScottinVA

Whose fault was it that Gingrich and Santorum did not qualify to be on the ballot? And as an aside, might not such failures reflect on such candidates ability to assume executive responsibilities? Or would prefer to replay the fiasco New Jersey indulged in with Bob Torricelli. I seem to recall conservatives were rightly incensed about.


84 posted on 04/17/2012 6:44:24 AM PDT by monocle
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To: NavyCanDo

People need to keep the goals of this November clearly in mind. The goals are simple!!

REMOVE OBAMA AND EVERYONE IN HIS ENTIRE CORRUPT ADMINISTRATION!!!!!

Maintain control of the House and gain control of the Senate. 66+ seats in the Senate would be fantastic, but heck I’ll settle for a solid majority at this point.

Elect someone, anyone for President with a (R) after their name. Stacking the House and Senate with SOLID CONSERVATIVES can and will do wonders to counteract a RINO President.


85 posted on 04/17/2012 6:45:52 AM PDT by OHPatriot (It's time to party like it's 1096 AD.)
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To: monocle
The reason we got Obama in the first place was because the GOP candidate was nothing worth voting for! The same exact result will happen this year if you let Romney take the nomination.

I want Obama gone at least as much as you do. I am telling you that running Romney against him will not accomplish that goal. Just like it didn't with McCain.

We got Bill Clinton for the same reason. Aren't you sick and tired of this charade?

86 posted on 04/17/2012 6:47:24 AM PDT by .30Carbine (God bless you with the spirit of wisdom and understanding)
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To: monocle
Whose fault was it that Gingrich and Santorum did not qualify to be on the ballot?

Regardless of placement of fault, it shows the amount of disarray that permeates the GOP.

87 posted on 04/17/2012 6:53:10 AM PDT by ScottinVA (A single drop of American blood for muslims is one drop too many!)
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To: .30Carbine
The reason we got Obama in the first place was because the GOP candidate was nothing worth voting for!

You are correct and that logic would apply to this election except for the fact that we now know that obama is more evil and conniving and will push the envelope further than we ever could have imagined back in '08.

88 posted on 04/17/2012 6:53:52 AM PDT by jersey117 (The Stepford Media should be sued for malpractice)
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To: Scooter100
it’s getting hard to tell FReepers from OBots. Is it just me?

Those of us who are standing by our principles are going to defend ourselves when our decision is challenged. Defending our decision involves revealing facts about Romney that you and others would like to conveniently ignore. Instead of respecting our right to stand by our conservative principles, we are called fools, OBots, extremists, childish, etc. I am very disappointed that so-called conservatives can't accept the fact of another conservative standing on principles. Frankly, I think the antagonism comes from the guilt they feel in selling out their own principles to support a liberal like Romney.

89 posted on 04/17/2012 7:00:31 AM PDT by CommerceComet (If Mitt can leave the GOP to protest Reagan, why can't I do the same in protest of Romney?)
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To: monocle
When we the people start acting as adults and stop stomping our feet to get our way

Who's been stomping feet? I've given my reasons for not supporting Romney rather plainly, without a lot of emotionalism. I'm not sure what else you're looking for.

will find a modicum respect in the fact I at least did what I could to slow Comrade Obama’s mad rush to dictatorial socialism.

That will depend upon which part of the electorate Romney wants to placate on a given day. He can talk a pretty good conservative game but his record shows something quite different. So when (not if) he shakes up that Etch-a-Sketch and reverts to his naturally liberal ways, what again will you have accomplished?

90 posted on 04/17/2012 7:01:11 AM PDT by ScottinVA (A single drop of American blood for muslims is one drop too many!)
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To: .30Carbine

We got Slick Willy because many “conservatives” deserted the GOP for snake oil salesman Ross Perot. The same remedy more than a few on this board are advocating in this election cycle. As an aside, Slick Willy won both of his elections because of third party candidates.

What realistic alternatives are now available?

I am over 70 years old and have live through many administrations and I have never seen a president as evil as Obama. If Obama were merely inept it would it would be unpleasant, but Obama is deliberately pushing this country toward a dictatorial socialist government and is intentionally weakening our superpower status.


91 posted on 04/17/2012 7:25:33 AM PDT by monocle
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To: LibLieSlayer

“mitt is a socialist... he would turn communist while in office. He codified and implemented the communist plan to move America into the communist system by controlling health care under full government mandate. He is a baby killing, gun grabbing, high taxes, big spending, lying cultist who worships something that is not of GOD.”

And that would so much worse than what we have now!


92 posted on 04/17/2012 7:25:50 AM PDT by READINABLUESTATE ("We must hang together, gentlemen...else, we shall most assuredly hang separately." - Franklin)
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To: jersey117
I was a delegate to the recent Republican County convention. This convention had more delegates than anyone could remember having seen before. One of the reasons there were so many more delegates was the participation of Democrats in this Republican convention. Many of the delegates openly acknowledged they had voted for Obama in the last Presidential election. They all voted for Romney delegates to the state convention, pushing out the delegates for the other Republican candidates. Many of the pro-Romney candidates cited Romney as being the only candidate who could defeat Obama, especially the delegates who voted for Obama in the last such election.

These Romney supporters, former Democrats and Republican alike, refused to recognize the fact that Romney has failed miserably to implement or support many or most of the planks in the Republican Party platform.

Many of you simply refuse to take responsibility for the consequences of making irresponsible political compromises. Like the legislators you denounce for being RINOs, you too compromise in the illusion that half a loaf or less is better than none. This circumstance is all the more worse when you shun winning the whole loaf by shouldering your responsibility to suffer ridicule by performing your Constitutional duty to remove the ineligible occupant of the Office of the President by legislative, judicial, and direct parliamentary efforts. If you cannot and will not take responsibility and personal leadership, who do you think is going to do it for you? Romney?

This election highlights as never before the capacity or incapacity of Citizens to properly govern themselves. The question is whether or not you are going to compromise the integrity of the Constitution and the republican form of government with a vote for Romney or Obama, or will you vote for another candidate or demand the removal of the ineligible occupant of the Office of the President?

It should not be forgotten nor ignored that the removal of Obama from office in this term or another term would cause all of his acts, orders, and appointments to become null and void as if they had never happened. Whereas Obama’s departure from office by election of Romney would leave all of Obama’s acts, orders, and appointments in full effect.

93 posted on 04/17/2012 7:30:14 AM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh

I agree. Sadly many here don’t. Barak will bring us on down if they have their way.


94 posted on 04/17/2012 7:35:22 AM PDT by pollywog ("O Thou who changest not, abide with me.".......)
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To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh
I am beyond disappointed that the RINO Republican establishment has saddled us once again with a scum sucking moderate.

Romney is not a a scum sucking moderate. He's a scum sucking leftist.

Of we used a 1 to 10 scale with 5 being a moderate, 1 being a socialist and 10 being very conservative, Obama would be a 1 and Romney would be a 1.1.

95 posted on 04/17/2012 7:37:45 AM PDT by CharacterCounts (A vote for the lesser of two evils only insures the triumph of evil.)
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To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh

Jimrob pointed out two wise things this last week:

1. That the Republican party needs to be fought or they will always take conservatives for granted and shove GOPe candidates down our throats to protect their own power.

2. That Romney is the same as Obama re policy.

Those are both true. But while some might take that to mean we must passively support Obama so as to rather passively fight the Republicans, I do not wish to go down with the ship.

We must as top priority starting now fight for 2016 by leaving the Republican party in spirit if not in name and getting on the ball with a Tea style party that will have as a platform our true Constitutional values, period. It will take years to make it happen.

Because right now we are taken for granted by the Pubs. But if all we do is not vote Romney (assuming he is the nominee), then we are taken advantage of by... Barack Obama. I can’t abide that.

Obama is barely American and hates not just our Constitution but US, the American people. I see Romney as a pretty normal Democrat. I really don’t fear he will kill us all off. I don’t like the man. I don’t want him as President. But unless something wild happens at the convention, it looks like for 2012 we will choose between a Democrat in R clothing or an abject enemy.

We must staunch the bleeding first. Then we must change our entire political lifestyle to reach true conservative health.


96 posted on 04/17/2012 7:52:39 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: monocle

They are both really Democrats. But only one has been a lifelong 3rd generation Communist.


97 posted on 04/17/2012 7:57:56 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh

For all the take-your-ball-home armchair pundits, ask yourselves that. Do you really truly believe that the average soldier, putting their life on the line daily, believes there is no difference between Obama and Romney?


Bingo. They are under an enemy commie as CiC now.


98 posted on 04/17/2012 8:01:16 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: monocle

What you say about Obama is true, I am not disputing that. What I am trying to point out is that if you (all) insist on running Romney for the GOP Obama will win a second term.


99 posted on 04/17/2012 8:11:43 AM PDT by .30Carbine (God bless you with the spirit of wisdom and understanding)
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To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh

Well, you can all disagree with him, and I must also say that to vote for Romney is WAY worse than voting for McCain, but he is right in the fact that voting against Romney is a vote for Obama. It’s too bad the tea party did not become an actual party, something I suggested and have advocated for since 2010. Every body said that it is not possible to have a viable 3rd party candidate. Well, at this point, in this election, yes. It is too late. Had we done it in 2010, we very well could’ve fielded a good enough candidate to fend off both major parties. By saying it is not possible, we do ourselves in. What better time than when the ship of state is in such bad state that a really good candidate might draw most independents, many, if not most republicans, and even a few democrats. Not all democrats are voting that way, as some are genuinely disgusted with the democratic party, but see little on the republican side to draw them over. I did not register as a republican this move so I could remain off everybody’s rolls.

This election, we need to vote for the republican party, then we need to work among the tea parties, the Constitution party, and some other 3rd parties to form a viable party for 2016. Even if we initially call it the Independence Party, we must start the ball rolling. Look what we did in 2010. If the republicans are going to fight us, then we must fight back, but on our terms. There are a LOT of disgruntled voters in the democratic and republican parties. We need to take advantage of this. Work for the republicans this time around, but start listening for those who are fed up, keep in touch, and keep the ball rolling to form a better party. The republican party was formed when the Whig party was losing its way and its voters were disenchanted. Much like we’ve been seeing for a couple decades now. If we keep saying it is not possible, then it will never be. It requires action, but not at the last minute. Four years is a good amount of time. Let’s face it, the conservative ones who jump into the republican party for president are going to be decimated by the party, itself. We will always have a dead fish for our frontrunner. It has become the party’s way. They will not change and they have the clout at the top to have their way, as we see year after year. So, let’s move on. We have some clout, and if we do the groundwork well, we can make gains in 2014, then go for broke in 2016. The tea party already has a reputation. Yes, the left hates us, but that will never change. To be openly derided can have good effects, as well, if we get some smart people on board.


100 posted on 04/17/2012 8:27:57 AM PDT by Shery (in APO Land)
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