Skip to comments.Romney vs Obama: One Critical Difference We Can't Ignore
Posted on 04/17/2012 12:52:07 AM PDT by Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh
I am beyond disappointed that the RINO Republican establishment has saddled us once again with a scum sucking moderate. Jim Robinson has expressed his non-support of mitt Romney in no uncertain terms. I wholeheartedly agree with his disgust.
The reason that the establishment wants Romney as opposed to a true conservative is status quo. The Republican establishment is just as guilty as mainstream Democrats. They are making money off a system that is fundamentally broken. Their only concern is who is steering a sinking ship.
However, there is one critical difference between Romney and Obama. It is a difference we cannot ignore. Barack Obama hates the united states of America. Barack Obama believes that the USA needs to be taken down a notch. Barack Obama apologizes for our history. Barack Obama believes that the core foundation of our country is rotten. Barack Obama believes that the "so-called founding fathers" we're Evil and to blame.
The Republican establishment may well have saddled us with the one piece of crap candidate who can actually lose to Barack Obama. I can't stomach the idea of voting for a left of center RINO like Mitt Romney.
However, mitt Romney does not hate America. There is no more pressing danger and threat to our country than Barack Obama in the hard-core socialist communist left wing.
I did not want George Bush. I did not want John McCain. I do not want mitt Romney. I am sick of the Republican establishment counting on me to vote for their mainstream moderate candidates simply because they know I will not abandon ship. In essence, they take true conservatives for granted.
We should not take our ball and go home just because we are not winning this time. There will be no third-party candidate. A vote for anyone other than that Romney come election time will be a vote for Barack Obama. I don't care how much I dislike Mitt Romney. And nothing anyone here can say can make something positively untrue true. Barack Obama and Romney are not the same. The one critical difference is that Barack Obama hates this country and secretly or not so secretly wishes to destroy this country and change its future for the worse.
We got stuck with Bill Clinton because of disillusioned conservatives who voted for Ross Perot. Surely we are smart enough people to learn from the past.
Careful now, you are using logic and math. ; )
Of course we will have a chance. We can primary him in 4 years if he starts to go off the reservation. Unlike the rats, we obviously wouldn't have the fear of going up against mitt. If obama gets four more, you know Biden isn't going to last through the duration. Some radical VP will be put in his place to carry the communist torch. We won't have a remote shot at a conservative in 2016 once he's fully entrenched in his second term.
Yet, it appears to me that your solution to the problem is to surrender the Republican Party to its liberal wing. I'd vote for a moderate and I'd vote for a left-leaning moderate but I won't vote for a man whose record has shown him to be consistently liberal just because he has an R behind his name. I said back in early 2008 that I could hold my nose and vote for McCain but not Romney.
Whose fault was it that Gingrich and Santorum did not qualify to be on the ballot? And as an aside, might not such failures reflect on such candidates ability to assume executive responsibilities? Or would prefer to replay the fiasco New Jersey indulged in with Bob Torricelli. I seem to recall conservatives were rightly incensed about.
People need to keep the goals of this November clearly in mind. The goals are simple!!
REMOVE OBAMA AND EVERYONE IN HIS ENTIRE CORRUPT ADMINISTRATION!!!!!
Maintain control of the House and gain control of the Senate. 66+ seats in the Senate would be fantastic, but heck Ill settle for a solid majority at this point.
Elect someone, anyone for President with a (R) after their name. Stacking the House and Senate with SOLID CONSERVATIVES can and will do wonders to counteract a RINO President.
I want Obama gone at least as much as you do. I am telling you that running Romney against him will not accomplish that goal. Just like it didn't with McCain.
We got Bill Clinton for the same reason. Aren't you sick and tired of this charade?
Regardless of placement of fault, it shows the amount of disarray that permeates the GOP.
You are correct and that logic would apply to this election except for the fact that we now know that obama is more evil and conniving and will push the envelope further than we ever could have imagined back in '08.
Those of us who are standing by our principles are going to defend ourselves when our decision is challenged. Defending our decision involves revealing facts about Romney that you and others would like to conveniently ignore. Instead of respecting our right to stand by our conservative principles, we are called fools, OBots, extremists, childish, etc. I am very disappointed that so-called conservatives can't accept the fact of another conservative standing on principles. Frankly, I think the antagonism comes from the guilt they feel in selling out their own principles to support a liberal like Romney.
Who's been stomping feet? I've given my reasons for not supporting Romney rather plainly, without a lot of emotionalism. I'm not sure what else you're looking for.
will find a modicum respect in the fact I at least did what I could to slow Comrade Obamas mad rush to dictatorial socialism.
That will depend upon which part of the electorate Romney wants to placate on a given day. He can talk a pretty good conservative game but his record shows something quite different. So when (not if) he shakes up that Etch-a-Sketch and reverts to his naturally liberal ways, what again will you have accomplished?
We got Slick Willy because many “conservatives” deserted the GOP for snake oil salesman Ross Perot. The same remedy more than a few on this board are advocating in this election cycle. As an aside, Slick Willy won both of his elections because of third party candidates.
What realistic alternatives are now available?
I am over 70 years old and have live through many administrations and I have never seen a president as evil as Obama. If Obama were merely inept it would it would be unpleasant, but Obama is deliberately pushing this country toward a dictatorial socialist government and is intentionally weakening our superpower status.
“mitt is a socialist... he would turn communist while in office. He codified and implemented the communist plan to move America into the communist system by controlling health care under full government mandate. He is a baby killing, gun grabbing, high taxes, big spending, lying cultist who worships something that is not of GOD.”
And that would so much worse than what we have now!
These Romney supporters, former Democrats and Republican alike, refused to recognize the fact that Romney has failed miserably to implement or support many or most of the planks in the Republican Party platform.
Many of you simply refuse to take responsibility for the consequences of making irresponsible political compromises. Like the legislators you denounce for being RINOs, you too compromise in the illusion that half a loaf or less is better than none. This circumstance is all the more worse when you shun winning the whole loaf by shouldering your responsibility to suffer ridicule by performing your Constitutional duty to remove the ineligible occupant of the Office of the President by legislative, judicial, and direct parliamentary efforts. If you cannot and will not take responsibility and personal leadership, who do you think is going to do it for you? Romney?
This election highlights as never before the capacity or incapacity of Citizens to properly govern themselves. The question is whether or not you are going to compromise the integrity of the Constitution and the republican form of government with a vote for Romney or Obama, or will you vote for another candidate or demand the removal of the ineligible occupant of the Office of the President?
It should not be forgotten nor ignored that the removal of Obama from office in this term or another term would cause all of his acts, orders, and appointments to become null and void as if they had never happened. Whereas Obama’s departure from office by election of Romney would leave all of Obama’s acts, orders, and appointments in full effect.
I agree. Sadly many here don’t. Barak will bring us on down if they have their way.
Romney is not a a scum sucking moderate. He's a scum sucking leftist.
Of we used a 1 to 10 scale with 5 being a moderate, 1 being a socialist and 10 being very conservative, Obama would be a 1 and Romney would be a 1.1.
Jimrob pointed out two wise things this last week:
1. That the Republican party needs to be fought or they will always take conservatives for granted and shove GOPe candidates down our throats to protect their own power.
2. That Romney is the same as Obama re policy.
Those are both true. But while some might take that to mean we must passively support Obama so as to rather passively fight the Republicans, I do not wish to go down with the ship.
We must as top priority starting now fight for 2016 by leaving the Republican party in spirit if not in name and getting on the ball with a Tea style party that will have as a platform our true Constitutional values, period. It will take years to make it happen.
Because right now we are taken for granted by the Pubs. But if all we do is not vote Romney (assuming he is the nominee), then we are taken advantage of by... Barack Obama. I can’t abide that.
Obama is barely American and hates not just our Constitution but US, the American people. I see Romney as a pretty normal Democrat. I really don’t fear he will kill us all off. I don’t like the man. I don’t want him as President. But unless something wild happens at the convention, it looks like for 2012 we will choose between a Democrat in R clothing or an abject enemy.
We must staunch the bleeding first. Then we must change our entire political lifestyle to reach true conservative health.
They are both really Democrats. But only one has been a lifelong 3rd generation Communist.
For all the take-your-ball-home armchair pundits, ask yourselves that. Do you really truly believe that the average soldier, putting their life on the line daily, believes there is no difference between Obama and Romney?
Bingo. They are under an enemy commie as CiC now.
What you say about Obama is true, I am not disputing that. What I am trying to point out is that if you (all) insist on running Romney for the GOP Obama will win a second term.
Well, you can all disagree with him, and I must also say that to vote for Romney is WAY worse than voting for McCain, but he is right in the fact that voting against Romney is a vote for Obama. It’s too bad the tea party did not become an actual party, something I suggested and have advocated for since 2010. Every body said that it is not possible to have a viable 3rd party candidate. Well, at this point, in this election, yes. It is too late. Had we done it in 2010, we very well could’ve fielded a good enough candidate to fend off both major parties. By saying it is not possible, we do ourselves in. What better time than when the ship of state is in such bad state that a really good candidate might draw most independents, many, if not most republicans, and even a few democrats. Not all democrats are voting that way, as some are genuinely disgusted with the democratic party, but see little on the republican side to draw them over. I did not register as a republican this move so I could remain off everybody’s rolls.
This election, we need to vote for the republican party, then we need to work among the tea parties, the Constitution party, and some other 3rd parties to form a viable party for 2016. Even if we initially call it the Independence Party, we must start the ball rolling. Look what we did in 2010. If the republicans are going to fight us, then we must fight back, but on our terms. There are a LOT of disgruntled voters in the democratic and republican parties. We need to take advantage of this. Work for the republicans this time around, but start listening for those who are fed up, keep in touch, and keep the ball rolling to form a better party. The republican party was formed when the Whig party was losing its way and its voters were disenchanted. Much like we’ve been seeing for a couple decades now. If we keep saying it is not possible, then it will never be. It requires action, but not at the last minute. Four years is a good amount of time. Let’s face it, the conservative ones who jump into the republican party for president are going to be decimated by the party, itself. We will always have a dead fish for our frontrunner. It has become the party’s way. They will not change and they have the clout at the top to have their way, as we see year after year. So, let’s move on. We have some clout, and if we do the groundwork well, we can make gains in 2014, then go for broke in 2016. The tea party already has a reputation. Yes, the left hates us, but that will never change. To be openly derided can have good effects, as well, if we get some smart people on board.
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