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To: Kartographer
I don't begrudge preppers, but I am curious as to why so many actually think something is going to happen. My personal theory is that humans are creatures designed to overcome incredible difficulties, and our modern lives have virtually no difficulty, so most people sit around wondering about some imagined horror story. The U.S. has been incredibly stable for over 200 years and all of the West has been mostly stable with the exception of a few wars. I don't see the historical precedent for the prepping mindset.

I'm not saying don't prep at all. Of course, natural disasters and the like happen. In addition if you are in regular fear of urban rats you probably live in the wrong place regardless of exremental fans and whatnot. Having a few days or even weeks supply of essentials is reasonable but these people who live their lives preparing for doomsday seem to be missing the point of living, but to each his own.

28 posted on 04/10/2012 9:47:36 PM PDT by douginthearmy (Obamagebra: 1 job + 1 hope + 1 change = 0 jobs + 0 hope)
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To: douginthearmy

When Burger King closes and the entitlement class can’t get lunch, they’ll be coming to your house for dinner.
In case you haven’t noticed, the POTUS is trying his hardest to collapse the economy and start a race war. When that happens you will need weaponry to defend your home or you will lose it, quite possibly along with your life.


30 posted on 04/10/2012 10:00:39 PM PDT by TsonicTsunami08
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To: douginthearmy

For many different reasons. Whatever you realistically believe is a potential threat/disaster that could occur you will have to deal with. A lot of people are boy scouts when it comes to life.

Right now this country is very polarized, and more so on purpose by the Kenya-resident. It is Makers vs Takers simply put. The taking is increasing and they are to the point they demand it and expect it and believe they are morally entitled to it. The other side is greedy, they are not. What’s theirs has been taken/kept from them.

At the same time government continues to be a bigger brother everyday and the constitution is an obstacle and a joke to these people. Both sides have totally opposite ideas of governing the country and there is no middle ground on most of the issues.

We have a 16.5 trillion dollar national debt that’s increased 45% the last 3 1/2 years. The country is slated to go down the tubes.


31 posted on 04/10/2012 10:08:27 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: douginthearmy
Having a few days or even weeks supply of essentials is reasonable but these people who live their lives preparing for doomsday seem to be missing the point of living, but to each his own.

It has been my experience that when someone's view of another makes them look more like a cartoon character than a live, flesh and blood person, their view probably IS of a cartoon character.

As goofy as it sounds, you would be amazed at the number of secular people who really believe all those folks go to church every Sunday in the hope of sitting on a cloud, plucking a harp after they die.

34 posted on 04/10/2012 11:16:19 PM PDT by papertyger ("And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if..."))
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To: douginthearmy

Why prep for one reason it’s much easier explaining why I prep than explaining to my children and loved ones why I didn’t.

Secondly in those two hundred years name a time that we had a government that was so hostile to such a large potion of it’s population? The only time I can think of was during the Civil War and I can’t imagine that you could find very many Southerners from that time who didn’t wish they had been able to put back something for what was coming.

One last thing it’s only been in the last fifty years or so that prep wasn’t seen as the ‘norm’. I remember my Grandmother’s pantry and root cellar and my Grandfather’s garden. We now live in a time where there is only three days worth of food readily available at our local outlets. That means if something happens and the trucks don’t roll there well be a lot of hungry people.

You might like to read:

Just In Time: When the Trucks Stop, America Will Stop

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2867265/posts

Lastly something to think about:

“There is no greater disaster than to underestimate danger.

Underestimation can be fatal.”


38 posted on 04/11/2012 7:01:26 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: douginthearmy; Kartographer
I don't begrudge preppers, but I am curious as to why so many actually think something is going to happen.

I'll take you are referring to the ones on the more extreme end of the spectrum. There are many, many more like myself who are 'preppers' w/o the fortress in the woods preparing for more likely disasters and situations. If nothing else, Katrina showed that people are not as robust anymore in urban areas. At least my supplies will give me some buffer should things start down hill and my situational awareness allow me and my family to get out of harms way when the entitlement mob runs out of things to burn downtown and moves to the suburbs.

41 posted on 04/11/2012 8:22:46 AM PDT by Godzilla (3/7/77)
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To: douginthearmy
Well, allow me to take these one at a time:
My personal theory is that humans are creatures designed to overcome incredible difficulties, and our modern lives have virtually no difficulty, so most people sit around wondering about some imagined horror story.

The vast majority are not prepping, they are letting American Idol be the focus of their lives. And most are deep in debt and can't fathom a life where they have to do without any electronic gadget, much less food.

The U.S. has been incredibly stable for over 200 years and all of the West has been mostly stable with the exception of a few wars. I don't see the historical precedent for the prepping mindset.

The Weimar Republic, Argentina? Germany was deep in post-war debt and kept the presses running to pay it off. Inflation took hold and it was pretty ugly for about a decade. Our debt is so huge that a one percent rise in the interest rate would ensure that we can't even make the minimum payment. Much less pay on the principal. Every 40 cents the government spends is borrowed. Seems like plenty of reason to worry about our financial future. It is exactly the thought that we are 'too big to fail' and that few living have seen hard times so they could never happen again that is the problem, IMO. It's a fantasy land and a ponzi scheme. They all bust eventually.

I'm not saying don't prep at all. Of course, natural disasters and the like happen. In addition if you are in regular fear of urban rats you probably live in the wrong place regardless of exremental fans and whatnot. Having a few days or even weeks supply of essentials is reasonable but these people who live their lives preparing for doomsday seem to be missing the point of living, but to each his own.

One can be prepared w/o making it the focus on one's life. I have stuff piled away and a retreat ready. If nothing happens, the retreat is a nice vacation home that we've been using for years anyway. The food will be usable. The guns and ammo as well. Nothing will go to waste and didn't cost all that much, other than the precious metals. But it is a good insurance policy, whether we have hyperinflation, a natural disaster, or total economic collapse.
46 posted on 04/11/2012 12:21:37 PM PDT by CottonBall
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To: douginthearmy
I don't begrudge preppers, but I am curious as to why so many actually think something is going to happen

Because it has in the past, at least locally. I think part of the major problem is because modern society has had it so easy combined with suburbanization/urbanization. No electricity? Panic. Even 80 years ago, there was a much larger rural society.

Even in the stable US, there's been the 1930's depression, the Long Depression in the late 1800's, the Indian Wars, the Civil War and Bleeding Kansas before that, the frontier, occasional riots, and Hurricane Katrina (and massive looting in N.O.)

Why are we here in the US today? In a lot of cases, it's because of SHTF happening in the lands of the ancestors.

Do I expect doomsday? No. Do I expect trouble? At some point. My big concern for the cause. Energy.

47 posted on 04/11/2012 12:32:34 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Time for brokered convention)
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To: douginthearmy

I think it’s really a hobby. Of course they won’t admit it’s a hobby, but like you say there really isn’t much historical precedent Unless you live in hurricane country, those people get to bug out all the time (why I’d never live there). All the major doomsday options I believe in playing the odds, if it’s that bad odds are I’ll be dead anyway. But for most folks it’s kind of like playing the lottery only in reverse, people buy lottery tickets then dream about how awesome life will be if they win, which they won’t, but the dreams are there; preppers do their prepping and think about how awesome it will be to be the survivors while all others fall in the chaos if the SHTF, which it won’t, but they’ve got their dreams. Looking at some of these ideas it can be an expensive hobby, but so’s by DVD/CD/book collection. They have fun with theirs, I have fun with mine.


51 posted on 04/11/2012 1:32:59 PM PDT by discostu (I did it 35 minutes ago)
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