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WITNESS: ZIMMERMAN SHOT TRAYVON MARTIN IN SELF-DEFENSE
THE FREEDOM POST ^ | March 25, 2012 | Matthew Burke

Posted on 03/25/2012 3:33:02 PM PDT by SaveOurRepublicFromTyranny

This news goes largely unreported, as race-hustling vultures, Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, swoop onto the scene to exploit the tragic shooting for personal publicity and political gain, appointing themselves as judge and jury in the Trayvon Martin shooting case. President Obama is promoting a race war by inferring that Martin was practically his own son: "If I had a son, he would look like Trayvon." He might as well as said, "When you kill Trayvon, you've killed my own son. If you support me, retaliate!"

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: georgezimmerman; mediabias; racism; trayvonmartin
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To: SaveOurRepublicFromTyranny

According to some sources, this is Mr. Martin.

61 posted on 03/25/2012 5:56:03 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: templarbeat

Never mind, the pic I posted turns out to be bogus.


62 posted on 03/25/2012 5:56:35 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: Little Ray
Trayvon, on the other hand, is guilty of being both violent and stupid. He was the last person that could have prevented his death and didn’t chose to do so. He didn’t have to attack Zimmerman and he could have backed off at any time without getting shot.

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Please provide a link to a genuine PD released statement or tape that states that Martin attacked Zimmerman.

And, as for martin backing away...according to the PD released tape of Zimmerman's call --- he did --- he ran.

But, if you have a real source for your statement feel free to share it with us all.

63 posted on 03/25/2012 5:59:59 PM PDT by wtc911 (Amigo - you've been had.)
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To: trappedincanuckistan

Get back to me when you have proof Martin did (or that Zimmerman did not show his weapon prior to shooting the kid). The only witness stated he saw Martin on top of Zimmerman punching him, no one knows what precipatated that. And unfortunately the only word we have to go on is Zimmerman as the other party is dead.


64 posted on 03/25/2012 6:01:12 PM PDT by templarbeat
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Marxist agitators at work again.


65 posted on 03/25/2012 6:02:40 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: SaveOurRepublicFromTyranny

“If I had a son, he would look like Trayvon.”

And throw a baseball like me.


66 posted on 03/25/2012 6:04:39 PM PDT by jivin gene (Breakin' up is hard to do)
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To: Pox

No one knows what happened after Zimmerman left his vehicle, what was said, whether the weapon was flashed prior to Martin getting shot. The only witness saw Martin on top of Zimmerman punching him, no one other then Zimmerman knows what happened before. So many on this site are taking this man’s word on the event and I’m not saying that things didn’t go down that way, only that the other available witness is now dead.


67 posted on 03/25/2012 6:07:22 PM PDT by templarbeat
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To: templarbeat
Get back to me when you have proof Martin did (or that Zimmerman did not show his weapon prior to shooting the kid).

You think Martin was stupid enough to get into a physical fight with somebody that had a gun drawn? And then got on top of him and beat on Zimmerman's face for about a minute until Zimmerman shot him?

You must have a pretty low opinion of his intelligence.

68 posted on 03/25/2012 6:07:22 PM PDT by Wissa (Gone Galt)
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To: SaveOurRepublicFromTyranny
President Obama is promoting a race war by inferring that Martin was practically his own son:

Implying.

69 posted on 03/25/2012 6:11:28 PM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: templarbeat

“In the past 11 years, George Zimmerman has made 46 calls reporting suspicious black people that he spotted in his neighborhood. “

http://trayvonmartinmurdercase.blogspot.com/2012/03/read-george-zimmerman-911-call-report.html


70 posted on 03/25/2012 6:11:53 PM PDT by Mr Rogers ("they found themselves made strangers in their own country")
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To: Wissa

I didn’t say he pointed it at him, but there is a huge question of how he approached Martin. And for the record, if someone pulls a gun on me, they will HAVE to use it on me. So yeah, I do think its possible that it could have happened that way. Bottom line is, could Zimmerman have a reason to replay the events a particular way? If so, then no one knows without an investigation.


71 posted on 03/25/2012 6:12:10 PM PDT by templarbeat
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To: templarbeat

Listen to yourself.

“Get back to me when you have proof Zimmerman did not show his weapon prior to shooting the kid.”

You don’t understand the law. It’s not Zimmerman’s burden to prove he didn’t do something. It’s your burden to prove he did.

Did you go to public school or something?


72 posted on 03/25/2012 6:12:44 PM PDT by trappedincanuckistan (livefreeordietryin)
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To: templarbeat
Zimmerman is certainly guilty according to your presumptions.
Maybe Zimmerman planned this for years, and finally got the black kid.
Heck, Zimmerman probably tried to rape the kid after he shot him too.
Next thing you know Martin was also Gay and Zimmerman knew it.

Maybe this, Maybe that, Maybe someone should interview all those strawman witnesses.

73 posted on 03/25/2012 6:14:03 PM PDT by MaxMax
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To: backwoods-engineer

So be it. It’s what they want anyway.

Folks, I said this in another thread on this subject.

If Zimmerman gets indicted, then it is an indictment against self defense that will have far reaching ramifications for all of us.

We should not be expected to cower in our homes became the perpetually aggrieved segment of our society does not want to be eyeballed, even though they commit a disproportional amount of crime. So much that many Americans become instantly guarded whenever they seem youth in hoodies. Hoods have been historically worn since the advent of clothing to intentionally mask the identity of the person wearing it, and most easily associated with thieves, thugs, and assassins.

-Citizens are not obligated to cede their neighborhoods to criminal elements and have EVERY right to observe, report, FOLLOW, and even question the intent and activity of suspicious individuals. Keep in mind that the person being questioned has no obligation to answer, and indeed may become very irate if they perceive that the person questioning is not a recognized authority.

-Citizens are not obligated to listen dispatchers. They cannot give legal and lawful orders like police officers, and even in this circumstance, George Zimmerman was under NO legal obligation to listen to the orders of a police officers over the phone not to follow Martin. An officer on the phone would not have all the facts to determine if Zimmerman’s continued following of Martin would constitute a private peace disturbance, which is usually a face to face confrontation and involves some sort of “fighting words”. If he indeed said it, Zimmerman saying “who are you or what are you doing around here?” does not constitute fighting words. I bet Martin did not agree.

-Citizens are not obligated to render first aid to those that they wound during physical conflict. Police are.

I have also said that Zimmerman’s head wound is the golden wound and the phone call with him wailing for help is going to be a acquittal getter for a jury. He only needs one of them to feel the distraught human calling for assistance, and it’s an acquittal.

In closing, I would remind the readers that Joe Horn in Pasadena Texas was never indicted, and I don’t necessarily agree he should have gone outside with his gun. Anywho, the Black Pampers got thrown out of town on that one, and that will probably happen here as well.

If it can happen to George Zimmerman, it can happen to any of us.


74 posted on 03/25/2012 6:14:25 PM PDT by Molon Labbie (End the War On Drugs, Restore the Constitution.)
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To: sargon

You go from saying “if” Trayvon attacked him, to assuming it happened that way. No one knows, only other witness simply saw Martin on top of Zimmerman and nothing precipating those events (did Zimmerman flash his gun, did he try to apprehend him, what was said). Zimmerman has an agenda with his replaying of the events and the only other person there is dead. Not saying it didn’t happen that way, just that you’re making assumptions.


75 posted on 03/25/2012 6:16:58 PM PDT by templarbeat
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To: sargon

You go from saying “if” Trayvon attacked him, to assuming it happened that way. No one knows, only other witness simply saw Martin on top of Zimmerman and nothing precipating those events (did Zimmerman flash his gun, did he try to apprehend him, what was said). Zimmerman has an agenda with his replaying of the events and the only other person there is dead. Not saying it didn’t happen that way, just that you’re making assumptions.


76 posted on 03/25/2012 6:16:58 PM PDT by templarbeat
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To: templarbeat
So many on this site are taking this man’s word on the event and I’m not saying that things didn’t go down that way, only that the other available witness is now dead.

The police investigated the shooting. They talked to witnesses and did the whole crime scene investigation. They interrogated Zimmerman. The police are professionals at doing crime investigations. I'm not aware of ANY actual evidence that contradicts Zimmerman's version of events. Are you? And if not, why do act like you know something the police don't?

77 posted on 03/25/2012 6:17:11 PM PDT by Wissa (Gone Galt)
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To: templarbeat
And for the record, if someone pulls a gun on me, they will HAVE to use it on me.

Yeah. It wouldn't surprise me if you'd also punch the guy in the face for a minute until he got around to shooting you.

78 posted on 03/25/2012 6:22:10 PM PDT by Wissa (Gone Galt)
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To: trappedincanuckistan
How does Martin confront Zimmerman when he doesn’t know where Zimmerman is?
79 posted on 03/25/2012 6:22:33 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (This world is a comedy to those that think, a tragedy to those that feel - Horace Walpole)
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To: Wissa

Again, I’m not saying that things didn’t happen the way they did. Keep in mind they have no witness for that time frame other then Zimmerman, who was let go at the scene. I know without a shadow of a doubt that Zimmerman was in the wrong in the way he handled the situation and I also know the kid was innocent of any wrong doing. He had a grown man throwing baseless accusations, then get out of his car and pursue him; he was scared. If I was Martin’s parents, I would damn sure want a more thorough investigation. As you would, if your (innocent) minor child was in the same predicament. No one (not you, I or the police) know what happened in that time frame or who attacked who first. The only witness is Zimmerman and a kid that is dead. While the racial tensions are being stoked like crazy, cases like this should NEVER be an open and shut as the police made it.


80 posted on 03/25/2012 6:26:36 PM PDT by templarbeat
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