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OK, I don't do this often, maybe I am doing it now because I've had the flu all week which caused my patience to run really short, but I am dragging out the soap box and climbing on top of it and here goes.

First those who always want to post how you are armed to the teeth and will just rob your way through SHTF, maybe you think it's funny, which I really believe some of you do and there are more than one or two which I fear really do mean it. Either way knock it off its not funny or helpful. I have sent an e-mail to Jim asking that he and the moderators consider such statements abuse and ask that they delete them. Such talk has no place on a forum such as FR. We are not a bunch of Street Thugs want to be's.

Secondly we all know OPSEC, but I want to warn you about a special dangerous type of person you will more and likely run into on your preparedness journey that of the not the common scoffers what some might call the 'grasshoppers' those who see nothing wrong and no way things can go wrong, well at least for them. The type I am talking about are the militant scoffers those that aren't content with just telling preppers how foolish they are and how worthless their prepping is, but those that even in their post you can tell that the fact that there are people preparing makes the ANGRY. These people will be some of the most dangerous people you may encounter in a SHTF situation. They will not find being proven wrong by people they consider to be fools well. They will have an almost maniacal need to punish those who have provide them wrong. They may even a twisted way blame the fact that you prep for causing the situation they find themselves in. Many of you who have been following my threads for awhile can attest that more than one of this type of person has popped up now and then. Only the wrath of a woman scorned is worse than proving to someone who things that they are some much smarter than you wrong,

OK down off the soap box, besides I needed it to store some preps in.

1 posted on 03/16/2012 10:27:40 AM PDT by Kartographer
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2 posted on 03/16/2012 10:29:02 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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Is there a ping list? Am I on it? If not, I need to be!


3 posted on 03/16/2012 10:32:46 AM PDT by FrogMom (There is no such thing as an honest democrat!)
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Been interested in disaster-readiness since Hurricane Wilma shorted-out South Florida [my current A.O.] in 2005.

Every prepper/survivalist needs to have at least 1 skill that is practical in a post-Collapse society. My intent is to become a horse farrier/ blacksmith.

In the event that the national electrical-power grid implodes/ is attacked & destroyed, the economy that rises from the ashes of this current one will be

less reliant on internal-combustion vehicles
more reliant on large domesticated animals
more agrarian &
More primitive in industries

**rant-off**

4 posted on 03/16/2012 10:38:48 AM PDT by ExcursionGuy84
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Would you please add me to the ping list?


5 posted on 03/16/2012 10:42:53 AM PDT by Stegall Tx (Living off your tax dollars can be kinda fun, but not terribly profitable.)
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Thanks, K. Good advice. I haven’t run into any of them yet, but I don’t advertise the fact to anyone that I’m *preparing*, and certainly not “prepping for SHTF”.


7 posted on 03/16/2012 10:49:28 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (I'll "vote for an orange juice can", over Barry Obummer and another 4yrs of Hell, anyday!)
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Thanks for the ping Kartorapher and for all the work you do. Thank you!

Our preps continue.

The basement as been swept, vacuumed, and cleaned.

We found some industrial strength shelving. We're trading a cord of firewood for it and it's going up this weekend.

I have secured 2 extra pairs of prescription eyeglasses and the extra outfitter series boots arrived yesterday.

I have another 600 rounds of 7.62x51 FMJBT ammo ordered which should be in any day.

Others in the group have secured a very extensive first aid kit which includes surgical instruments, airways, quick-clot, etc.

Our food stores (dry good) are really adding up fast now.

We are in the process of acquiring and seeds for the gardens.

An area that we need to address is communications. I'll hammer on that one at our next meeting in two weeks.

One thing I feel everyone should take heed of:

All our supplies, stores, and gear are just to buy time to get the gardening and trapping going. I intentionally left off hunting as I feel there won't be much left to hunt after the food supply breaks.

I continue to walk the property thinking of ways to attack our compound and ways to defeat such attacks.

9 posted on 03/16/2012 10:54:51 AM PDT by appalachian_dweller (Live each day as if it's your last. It might be.)
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The grasshoppers who get ANGRY at preppers
are the crabs in the bucket, trying to pull those who are trying to escape down with all the others.

I have a lib-in-law with whom I broached the subject of a total economic collapse and what would she do. Her response was “well, we’d all be in the same boat, then, wouldn’t we”. As if that was some sort of solace.

You’ll also run into these same sort of people when you’re discussing doing ANYTHING outside of the mainstream, like, say, starting your own business. They loudly decry your plan and tell you all the ways it won’t work.

Several folks I actually do take advice from say to not only ignore those people, but AVOID them.


10 posted on 03/16/2012 10:59:26 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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Great and necessary rant. Thank you.


27 posted on 03/16/2012 11:20:50 AM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (PRAY for this country like your life depends on it......because it DOES!)
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How about some Tamiflu or Premavir (investigational still) in the med kit?
Hope you are on the mend and feeling better!
Thanks for the good work you do FRiend!


32 posted on 03/16/2012 11:28:50 AM PDT by outofsalt ("If History teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything")
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Check your local megamart for holiday special meats.

Most of us know that around Christmas and Thanksgiving you can get turkey cheaply but there are other holidays.

For the two weeks before St Patrick's Day my local stores run a special on corned beef. It is less then half price.

Meat is easy to can when you have a pressure cannier which I strongly suggest you get. I pack the meat into pint jars which is about a pound and pressure can.

They also generally have cabbage at very low prices. Cabbage stores well for a few months if you stuff it into a net bag and hang it. One cabbage per bag. The bags can be washed in bleach water and re-used.

34 posted on 03/16/2012 11:31:30 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Would you sing if someone sucked YOU up the vacuum cleaner hose?)
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INDEED.

WELL PUT.

Sigh.


41 posted on 03/16/2012 11:51:01 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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Sorry you are not feeling well Kartographer - Get well soon and thanks for all your hard work on this for us Freepers!!
68 posted on 03/16/2012 2:54:03 PM PDT by 4everontheRight (And the story began with..."Once there was a great nation......")
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“I’ve had the flu all week which caused my patience to run really short, “

LOL. I saw you get a little bit feisty on another thread. Keep up the good work, Kart. Really appreciate it.


71 posted on 03/16/2012 3:26:55 PM PDT by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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That best deals I’ve ever seen on eBay are for heavy duty boots. If you don’t mind buying “factory seconds” you can get a $200 pair of boots for $40 or less. (Usually the factory seconds just have some cosmetic issue, such as a scuff)


81 posted on 03/16/2012 4:26:28 PM PDT by The Duke
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Hear hear!


82 posted on 03/16/2012 4:37:50 PM PDT by Ladysmith (The evil that's happening in this country is the cancer of socialism...It kills the human spirit.)
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Final IMPORTANT tip:

http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2006-02/asfm-vik021306.php

84 posted on 03/16/2012 4:42:30 PM PDT by The Duke
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i have a strange ? i want to throw out there...

i think live garlic is very good for health...how hard is it to grow?


86 posted on 03/16/2012 5:33:38 PM PDT by AnTiw1 ("Presently pursued by a gay stalker described as a little Napoleon in a tutu.")
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If there’s a ping list add me to it


97 posted on 03/17/2012 12:01:11 AM PDT by Oshkalaboomboom
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Apropos the rocket stoves discussed last week, how do you light one without it venting backwards?

And how do you clean out the ash?

And how do you clean the flu?


99 posted on 03/17/2012 6:03:33 AM PDT by patton (DateDiff)
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I just got my new dehydrator in from Amazon. Gonna fire it up this afternoon and dry me some mushrooms, bananas and mebbe some teryaki beef jerky. Then vac seal the whole lot in 1/2 gallon jars. This thing will fill a niche in our preps that will make for some nice long term food storage.

Anyone have a clue how long a batch of properly done jerky will last when vac sealed in a mason jar?

103 posted on 03/17/2012 8:27:24 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Liberty is in danger. We are the generation. This is our role. Now is the time. Defend Freedom!)
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