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Who won the CNN National Security Debate?
Wepolls ^ | 11/22/2011 | Overkill-GOP

Posted on 11/22/2011 7:54:39 PM PST by gop_overkill

I think this was the best debate so far this year. I really like how Newt stood up to defend his stance on immigration. Who do you think won?

POLL: Who won the 11/22/2011 CNN Republican National Security Debate? Vote: Click Here

Without a doubt it was Newt, our former speaker and next president.


TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: 2012; cnngopdebate; debate; election; gopdebate; gopsecuritydebate
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1 posted on 11/22/2011 7:54:46 PM PST by gop_overkill
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To: gop_overkill

Am with Newt.. .but missed debate. Hope to see ‘highligts’ or somesuch.


2 posted on 11/22/2011 7:58:05 PM PST by cricket (Obama - Be Gone! (Newt could make it happen))
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To: gop_overkill

The Paulbots have found it.


3 posted on 11/22/2011 7:58:35 PM PST by Winstons Julia (Hello OWS? We don't need a revolution like China's; China needs a revolution like OURS.)
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To: gop_overkill

Worthless poll that has already been spammed by PaulBots.


4 posted on 11/22/2011 7:59:20 PM PST by South40
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To: gop_overkill

Waste of time. Eyebrows are already falling all over the place...


5 posted on 11/22/2011 8:00:07 PM PST by isthisnickcool (Sharia? No thanks.)
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To: Winstons Julia

Yep!


6 posted on 11/22/2011 8:00:20 PM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: cricket

Newt blew it with his pro-ILLEGAL alien defense of part of the DREAM Act.


7 posted on 11/22/2011 8:00:31 PM PST by South40
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To: cricket

If you are with Newt, you are now supporting amnesty. Perry’s immigration views are more conservative than Newt’s. This is a disaster. Next Newt will be talking about embracing sodomites in the military.


8 posted on 11/22/2011 8:00:35 PM PST by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: gop_overkill

Ron Paul is way out front....I guess that is ‘true believers’ for you!


9 posted on 11/22/2011 8:00:36 PM PST by Dudoight
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To: gop_overkill
Who won?

Unfortunately for Neut...he stepped in it on amnesty.

But, the clear loser was Bamster!


10 posted on 11/22/2011 8:01:01 PM PST by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Yeah the subhuman paulbots undemocratically ruin every online poll.


11 posted on 11/22/2011 8:01:06 PM PST by bigdirty
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To: gop_overkill

Guv Huntsman’s eyebrows won!


12 posted on 11/22/2011 8:01:36 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: gop_overkill

PaulNuts flood! Useless poll, now.


13 posted on 11/22/2011 8:01:45 PM PST by X-spurt
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To: gop_overkill

Wonder how well Ron Paul will do on this poll?


14 posted on 11/22/2011 8:02:06 PM PST by magritte
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To: gop_overkill

cain won.

newt and rombot did poorly this week.


15 posted on 11/22/2011 8:03:30 PM PST by ken21
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To: cricket

Newt failed big time on the illegal issue. I was ready for him to ticket with Cain but not after tonight. He stepped in a hugh pile with what amounted to amesty - Oh, but we have to be human!!!


16 posted on 11/22/2011 8:03:55 PM PST by bgill (The Obama administration is staging a coup. Wake up, America, before it's too late.)
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To: achilles2000
If you are with Newt, you are now supporting amnesty. Perry’s immigration views are more conservative than Newt’s. This is a disaster. Next Newt will be talking about embracing sodomites in the military.

lol! He wasn't that bad. Okay, he was. Embracing amnesty will be the death knell of Newt's campaign just as it was with Perry.

17 posted on 11/22/2011 8:04:54 PM PST by South40
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To: gop_overkill

Paultards are already spamming. I clicked once on my vote, then a second later, clicked refresh to see updated results and Paul’s numbers jumped by 500 (with everyone else in the double digits). For a poll on some unknown site, that screams spamming or pre-loading.


18 posted on 11/22/2011 8:05:06 PM PST by mnehring
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To: gop_overkill

Ugh! I missed the debate -- the first one of the series I have not seen as it happened. I'll look for a rebroadcast tonight, but I don't suppose anyone has an online link?


19 posted on 11/22/2011 8:05:51 PM PST by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: achilles2000

Newt does not support amnesty the way you are thinking and saying. he makes a good point on someone here decades and knows the American people will not go to evict someone who came here as he says 25 years ago and has children and grandchildren here, some in the military, others in careers.

Let’s be realistic on this. Not saying I support illegal immigration but we do need to streamline the process and let people in, but make sure they really do become citizens and learn English.

I think Newt won the debate. Romney I think will slide now in polls. His little snide looks at everyone else answering questions really makes me want to slap the RINO.

Cain, although more intelligent than I had first thought is a bit slow compared to Newt and I so want to see 4 or more debates between Obama and Gingrich. Obama is going to look like a high school debater and lose much support, if he has any left by next November.

Bachmann also is getting on the ball and I would vote for her too.

Actually let me say I would vote for even Ron Paul if by some strange change he won the nomination as I firmly believe Obama will be attempting a coup or dictatorship soon into any second administration.


20 posted on 11/22/2011 8:06:21 PM PST by DebraAI
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To: gop_overkill

NEWT SHOT HIMSELF IN THE HEAD!

“Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich said Tuesday that he wouldn’t “expel” those who have come illegally but have made lives in the U.S. He says that the GOP cannot call itself a party for family when it separates parents from their children born in the U.S.”

Keep illegal alien families together; deport all of them.

Children born in the U.S. to parents here illegally are the nationality of their parents. They can, when over the age of 18, apply for U.S. citizenship claiming birth here; but whether they get to claim that right depends on their parent’s homeland and its laws.

Mexico claims that wherever Mexicans go, Mexico exists. Therefore if Mexicans are in the U.S. illegally, they are not here under the jurisdication of the U.S., but purely as Mexicans.

Illegal aliens and their family members should be deported together - period.

Newt hurt himself very badly tonight. I will never vote for him on this very important national security issue.


21 posted on 11/22/2011 8:06:41 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS U.S.A. PRESIDENT)
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To: Jane Long
But, the clear loser was Bamster!

Yes he was! Barry is probably sitting in a corner babbling something about "one term, one term".

22 posted on 11/22/2011 8:06:58 PM PST by South40
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To: gop_overkill

Newt won, because he staked out a position he will need very much in the campaign against Obama.

Now Obama can’t demonize him (and all Republicans) as favoring pushing Abuela’s wheelchair across the border and dumping her in a country she hasn’t seen in 26 years.

Diehard conservatives know she has been breaking our laws all those years, but Obama’s opponent in the general election is going to need votes from a wider range than diehard conservatives.

The others, except for Paul, did well enough. Paul needs to go away.


23 posted on 11/22/2011 8:07:10 PM PST by Lady Lucky
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To: gop_overkill

You mean where Newt stood up for his position of sanctioning illegals??? Keep them in the country without giving them citizenship? Are you SERIOUS? You liked that?

Please.


24 posted on 11/22/2011 8:07:49 PM PST by RIghtwardHo
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To: mnehring

My hugest problems with illegals ...other than they are illegal.

1. They come for the benefits - and we give them - and then we go broke. NO candidate EVER seems to directly address the BILLIONS states are paying to subsidize these parasites. I must admit Romney does come close in addressing the “magnet” that draws them. However, I’m not sure I could trust him to do what we need to do ...as in cut out ALL welfare benefits.

2. They have no intention of becoming Americans. They are here to reap the benefits and continue living culturally as they always have. NO candidate EVEr addresses the loyalties of any of these illegal immigrants. You could give them amnesty all day long ...but what kind of Americans will they be? Do they really care about this country? Do they even understand this country beyond what they can GET from it.


25 posted on 11/22/2011 8:09:37 PM PST by LibsRJerks
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To: ken21
Cain has ceased to be relevent.

As the talking heads said, when asked about Syrian flyover, Cain talked about the US economy and that is a sign of not being informed.

He's done.

26 posted on 11/22/2011 8:09:50 PM PST by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: bgill

I’m with you bgill. We should just kill all illegals. If they didn’t break our laws, they’d be alive. Newt’s a pussy for not thinking American.


27 posted on 11/22/2011 8:10:14 PM PST by sanjuanbob (Festina Lente)
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To: gop_overkill
I really like how Newt stood up to defend his stance on immigration.

I didn't.

28 posted on 11/22/2011 8:10:18 PM PST by umgud
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To: South40

They are certainly dedicated.


29 posted on 11/22/2011 8:11:03 PM PST by jospehm20
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To: gop_overkill

I didn’t see the debate on purpose but if I could have gotten away with it and Newt did push his illegal alien amnesty, I would have walked on stage and kicked him in the ass. I would have then said I wanted to beat the crap out of him but wanted to be more humane so would stop at the ass kicking.

I then would have said that I really wanted to be humane to all the Americans whose parents, Great Grand parents etc give their souls and their lives to build a new country where rule of law protcts even the lowliest ciitzen from illegal aliens violating our laws. murdering our children and old folks.Stealing everythhing not nailed down and tuning our nation in to a third would hell hole. Ruled by Muzzie murderers, rapists, and worse.


30 posted on 11/22/2011 8:12:53 PM PST by yarddog
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To: South40
>>Newt blew it with his pro-ILLEGAL alien defense of part of the DREAM Act.<<

That’s utter nonsense. Just watch his poll numbers continue to climb.

31 posted on 11/22/2011 8:14:44 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: gop_overkill
Newt won, “amnesty” included.
32 posted on 11/22/2011 8:15:04 PM PST by jpf (phillies)
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To: sanjuanbob

/s


33 posted on 11/22/2011 8:15:21 PM PST by sanjuanbob (Festina Lente)
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To: cricket

Here is Newt’s logic in a nutshell...

There is a bank robber who robbed banks years ago. He never robbed more than $5000 in any one robbery. He goes to church every Sunday. He has kids and grand kids. You can’t just throw this dude in jail now, and break up his family.

Now substitute Bank robber with illegal immigrant. He has been here for over 25 years. Goes to church regularly, has kids and grand kids. We can’t just deport him and break up his family. Get it cricket?


34 posted on 11/22/2011 8:15:21 PM PST by federal__reserve (What matters in 2012 is jobs, jobs, jobs! Jobs kill unemployment, foreclosures & deficits)
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To: federal__reserve

In most states there’s a statute of limitations on bank robbery.


35 posted on 11/22/2011 8:19:14 PM PST by jpf (phillies)
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To: LibsRJerks

Exactly! Turn off the tap. Withdraw the benefits, and most illegals will go away. The fed gov should let the states deal with them. No jobs, no housing, no stay.

Those who are now too old to work, and still illegally here, would remain a problem, temporarily. But no Republican candidate is going to get any traction in the campaign by advocating deportation — which the Dems would promptly frame as a humanitarian crisis. Or Holocaust. Or Trail of Tears. Whatever.

We want them gone, but we do not want a PR disaster that gets Obama another four years in the White House.


36 posted on 11/22/2011 8:20:18 PM PST by Lady Lucky
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To: gop_overkill

How long can you live here and not be a citizen? Do you pay taxes and can you draw SS and medicare?


37 posted on 11/22/2011 8:23:26 PM PST by Big Horn (Rebuild the GOP to a conservative party)
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To: bigdirty
Yeah the subhuman paulbots undemocratically ruin every online poll.

You've just signed onto FR this month and you know this?

38 posted on 11/22/2011 8:25:05 PM PST by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: gop_overkill
BLITZ WON!
39 posted on 11/22/2011 8:25:18 PM PST by bigbob
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To: gop_overkill

This is a debate about IDEAS! This is not some sporting event where the question is “Who do you think won?”

Gloria Borger won the most disgusting award.


40 posted on 11/22/2011 8:35:08 PM PST by Graewoulf ( obama"care" violates the 1890 Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND is illegal by the U.S. Constitution.)
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To: gop_overkill

Newt is a total FAIL on immigration


41 posted on 11/22/2011 8:37:52 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: South40

Is there still time for a Fred Kugar poll surge??

:p


42 posted on 11/22/2011 8:39:23 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Graewoulf

Newt lost because you cannot give a 5 second response concerning amnesty.

If Newt had announced his big “IMMIGRATION PLAN” before the debate,
and given speeches talking about it, that would be one thing. I understand
immigration is complex.

TO DROP AMNESTY IN WHATEVER FORM IS in a debate is not a good political move.

You lose your audience.

I AM HUMANE NEWT. THAT NEIGHBOR BROKE THE LAW 25 YEARS AGO,
and he never paid a price. He got the benefits of living in this country.
He is morally wrong and he can never repay it.
He is going to have to pay the consequence of living underground,
working illegally, driving without licenses, and I am the one who is not humane?


43 posted on 11/22/2011 8:40:08 PM PST by preamble
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To: Lady Lucky; South40

That is exactly what is wrong with Newt, his position changes according to what is politically expediant.

He should be nowhere near the White House.


44 posted on 11/22/2011 8:40:30 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: gop_overkill

Gingrich blew it with his support for amnesty and for H-1 visas to allow cheap Indian and Chinese engineers to displace American engineering talent.

He fails to realize that the only difference between an illegal border crosser caught by the Border Patrol today and the one that’s been here 25 years is that the 25 year guy has been breaking the law 9,125 days longer.

As Newt himself would say, if he had the brain he is reputed to have, it’s absurd to think that if break into the country illegally, it’s OK if you can get more than 25 miles across the border, or more than 25 days without being caught.

Using the Gingrich logic, John Demjanjuk, an 89 year old American citizen with American children and grandchildren who was deported and denaturalized in 2009 because he was a Nazi prison camp guard in the 1940’s, should have been allowed to stay here forever.

What is the difference between Demjanjuk and these other illegals?


45 posted on 11/22/2011 8:41:22 PM PST by oldbill
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To: GeronL
He should be nowhere near the White House.

NO RINOs. NO NEWT. NO Way!

46 posted on 11/22/2011 8:44:35 PM PST by South40
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To: gop_overkill

Yeah I’m gonna go with Ron Paul. Defend the constitution and don’t put out soldiers lives on the line for some pussy assed Harvard MBA’s idea of foreign policy. If some of the folks here don’t like that, all i can say is - tough shit.


47 posted on 11/22/2011 8:45:58 PM PST by SteelTrap
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To: gop_overkill

I thought Santorum and Bachmann shined tonight. They all sounded smart and serious which was like a breath of fresh air compared to the Dems’ verbal excrement.


48 posted on 11/22/2011 8:46:21 PM PST by GreatRoad (O < 0)
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To: Lady Lucky
...But no Republican candidate is going to get any traction in the campaign by advocating deportation — which the Dems would promptly frame as a humanitarian crisis. The Repub would not have to advocate deportation. Simply turn off all benefits and they'll self deport. Strict enforcement of E-Verify and heavy, heavy penalties for employers who hire them, and they'll simply leave. No welfare, no jobs, and they'll self deport.
49 posted on 11/22/2011 8:48:20 PM PST by MarcCicero
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To: SteelTrap

I ask people if Obama wants to attack Iran before the election and have a draft, are they willing to sacrifice their family members to go over to Iraq for Ovpbama?


50 posted on 11/22/2011 8:52:06 PM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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