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Metal recycling. If the electric company doesn’t take these poles, the local entreprenuers will. Abandoned houses, which in the 90’s were 60-70 percent anecdotally, were stripped of siding, brick, plumbing BACK THEN. Huge mansions are everywhere, burned out. Used to be the wealth center of Detroit, then they left. No jobs. In 1990’s, they had no more police force and a serial killer taking out the prostitutes and not enough working garbage trucks to pick up the garbage.

What do you do when someone can’t pay their bills and hasn’t for 10 years? There’s no income there. It’s not the peoples’ fault or the leaders’ fault, except that they should abandon the place for work like the dust bowl folks, but go where? These are not easily trained people - either due to age and past poverty/education, or the young with Detroit’s 50% graduation rate and raised in single parenthood inability to be with the kids. What a mess. How can you help?

But we have our foreign cars purchasers getting the better deal. And we have our domestic cars makers making the best short term decisions money can buy for their bonus/stock holders, and the unions leadership making the best deals that money can buy for their local leaders to get re-elected (overtime for me, not demanding another guy get hired instead). This is what happens when “truth is relative to me and my wants”.

The “cheese” didn’t just “move”, it’s all gone. No more cheese out there. Have to start going for insects and calling it “cricket cheese”.

Michigan in good faith gave it’s soul away to get biotech and new battery technology and green and everything else - tax free, just come over here and use our great engineers. Everything has fallen flat. These Highland Park folks would provide services to the new industries - but the new industries too went to china or flopped.

You put a job out there, they’ll grab it, but there’s no business to hire. (the lazy have a term already - criminals - so lets disregard our direct concern for them here)

Everywhere in this country we need a new product to make/consume - one that has a short shelf life so it needs to be produced everywhere locally and employs folks that take pride in their work. A product that old people can make because they aborted the young folk so no one can retire anytime soon. Something you don’t need much training to learn to do, for our poorly educated young AND Old, just a pride in ones work that shows in greater quality. I always thought it would be manufacturing. I feel like a commie to say (it seems so anti-technology)....farming. Return to individual farming - animals, produce...trade/barter/sell/hire. Knock the buildings down between the absent light posts.

I feel like a commie to say (it seems so anti-technology)....farming. Return to individual farming - animals, produce...trade/barter/sell/hire. Knock the buildings down between the absent light posts.

You sure do sound like a Commie. Farming isn't going to do squat up there. There are already plenty of farm in MI already. Detroit has been on it's way out for decades because of the influx of lazy shiftless debris that migrated from the south decades ago. These people are not looking for work or for any revitalization of the place. All the motivated people moved on to greener pastures. I bet you that if you had a building opened offering a job to all comers and next to it a welfare office, I know which one would be the popular place to go. Places die, people move on. It does not mean that the rest of the country is finished. How many places fell off the map during other periods in our history? Plenty.

Farming is not commie!!! It would only be commie if it is done on big government run farms with mandatory labor. Our country was agriculture based before it was industrialized and we were not commies. Having small family owned and operated farms is a beautiful American thing. Decent food can be produced with love and with a careful eye on quality.

Americans would do well to eat better. Right now we eat tons of highly processed garbage but have liked to spend our money on electronics, big homes and fancy cars. Simpler, more countrified life styles would do many very well. Going back to the basics is not commie but true Americanism.

I was just reading about Marx and the contempt he held for the “worker” that his ideology supposedly champions so much. (Sound familiar? Like today’s liberals?)

Anyway, he went into a rage at one of his supposed followers when the follower, being “boots on the ground” suggested that land be allocated at a rate of 120 acres “per peasant”. Marx was spitting mad and very denigrating towards this person, stating that you get the peasants’ support by PROMISING land, but all land must, after the revolution, be owned “collectively”, ie, by the Party.