"I have not yet begun to fight!"
Posted on 12/16/2010 11:23:09 AM PST by rxsid
"New Details From LTC Lakin's Court-Martial The Media Will Not Report; Concern About Obama's Eligibility Throughout the Chain-of-Command
This snippet posted below was published by Col. Sullivan from the CAAFlog blog(anti-Lakin). I'm very surprised Col. Sullivan was able to keep his ridicule of LTC Lakin down to a minimal in his latest writings on LTC Lakin's court-martial. What this blog shows is that there are real concerns about Obama's constitutional eligibility to be CiC all the way up the chain-of-command. I can't wait until the official trial transcripts are released.
Snippet via CAAFlog; LTC Lakin continued that he became the chief of primary care at the Pentagon’s clinic in July 2009. Mr. Puckett then observed that the purpose of the hearing was for the members to determine an appropriate sentence. He then discussed the origins of LTC Lakin’s offenses."He testified that he started to have concerns about the Constitution during the primary elections, when he was stationed at Aberdeen Proving Grounds. He learned that there was controversy as to the natural-born-citizen status of both major political parties’ general election candidates. He said Senator McCain provided everything he could to address his status, including a birth certificate with the doctor’s name and hospital’s name. He compared that with the lack of scrutiny that Senator Obama received. He had questions about the image of a certificate of live birth on the Internet and relatives stating they were present at his birth in Kenya. He said he had an open mind, but he was skeptical. One candidate went through scrutiny, but there was a lack of information as to the other.
Mr. Puckett pressed, “Why were you so interested in this?” I think he expected the answer to be because of the oath of office, but LTC Lakin instead gave an answer about reading newspapers. LTC Lakin testified that after the election, he became “extremely concerned.” He said the issue wasn’t about politics or anything else (probably an implicit denial of racism) but the Supreme Law of the Land. He stated that he “wanted a valid Commander-in-Chief.” He testified that after the election, he was no longer comfortable with being selected for deployment. He was “concerned that the Constitution wasn’t being followed.” He believes his “oath as an officer is to protect and defend the Constitution.” He believed questions about the President’s eligibility “may weaken the Constitution.” He said he doesn’t know if the President is ineligible and he doesn’t believe that anyone can know.
Neal Puckett asked, “What did you do as a soldier.” LTC Lakin said his “sought out advice” from his command and from his friends. He contacted legal assistance at Aberdeen Proving Grounds, who said they would research the issue and get back to him, but then they would never return his calls. He talked to his commander and supervisor who said there was an issue and there were questions, but they did not know what to do to answer them. He then filed an Article 138 complaint. He was asking, “Please, someone in my command, tell me there’s not an issue about illegal orders.” He submitted the Article 138 complaint to his company commander and asked him to forward it. The reply he received back was that his Article 138 complaint was deficient, so the Army didn’t have to answer it.
LTC Lakin then wrote letters to his two Senators and Congressman. One Senator didn’t reply. One said the issue had been raised “and Twittered about and been found not to be an issue.” His Congressman forwarded his letter to Military Affairs.
He continued to “pursue what else I could do.” When he was transferred to the Pentagon, he raised the issue with his clinic’s commander. He “acknowledged concern” but had no guidance as to what to do. LTC Lakin then submitted another Article 138 complaint, this one routed through General Casey. (BTW, it would later come out that he was referred to Paul Rolf Jensen while he was at Aberdeen Providing Ground, so it seems likely that he was working with Mr. Jensen at the time he filed this Article 138 complaint.) The response he received back was that General Casey wasn’t in his chain of command, so his Article 138 complaint wouldn’t be addressed.
LTC Lakin then became aware he was “on the short-list for deployment. This greatly concerned me.” He went to Capitol Hill for face-to-face meetings with one Congressman and high-level staffers. He was told that the issue was a concern, but the media ridiculed it, so they let it go.
He was advised to go to Afghanistan and then raise the issue while he was on deployment. He considered this a “worse” option. He said it would be “extremely wrong to raise this in a combat zone.”
Mr. Puckett asked, “You thought if the Commander-in-Chief wasn’t eligible, you thought your deployment order might retroactively be considered an illegal order.” LTC Lakin agreed.
Mr. Puckett asked when LTC Lakin first sought the advice of an attorney. He answered that it was two-and-a-half years ago. He was the leader of an intermediate level school small group. There were JAGs in the group. He discussed his concerns with the JAGs and asked what he should do. One of the JAGs referred him to Paul Jensen and LTC Lakin called him. He said he “ultimately hired” Mr. Jensen.
He then testified about receiving his deployment orders. At the bottom of the orders, it said he had to bring a copy of his birth certificate. He said, “I thought, there’s an issue here.” That was followed first by laughter from the birthers in the audience, and then by applause, bring another sharp, “Members of the gallery!” from Judge Lind.
He said that in March 2010, he turned to Mr. Jensen for legal advice. When asked about Mr. Jensen’s advice, LTC Lakin replied, “There’s a Kenyan birth certificate.” He said that on Mr. Jensen’s advice, he decided not to deploy. Mr. Puckett then asked, “Who made the decision to say to your command, ‘I’ll deploy if the President shows he’s eligible?’” LTC Lakin said he did. Mr. Puckett asked, “Whose fault was it?” LTC Lakin replied, “Mine.” Mr. Puckett asked, “Whose responsibility was it?” LTC Lakin answered, “Mine.” Mr. Puckett elicited LTC Lakin’s response that he didn’t think his orders were illegal, but he “still thought there was a constitutional issue.”
He agreed with Mr. Puckett that he used his deployment orders as a vehicle to increase the level of attention that the issue would receive. He confirmed that there were “lots of people urging you to stick to your guns.” In a reply likely to hurt him with the members, he answered: “Yes, including enlisted members and officer members.”
From: http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/12/details-from-ltc-lakins-court-martial.html
Damn it!! There are questions IN the military! The country DESERVES To know the truth about Barry and whether or not he's Constitutionally qualified. Enough already with the obfuscation! This isn't a freakin game.
He sought advice and confirmation of Barry's eligibility and his orders being lawful from:
* legal assistance at Aberdeen Proving Grounds - Result = Ignored him
* his commander and supervisor - Who acknowledge there IS an issue. - Result = They don't know what to do
* Submits Article 138 complaint to his company commander - Result = they tell him his Article 138 complaint was deficient, so the Army didn’t have to answer it.
* LTC Lakin then writes letters to his congressional "representation" - Result = 1 Senator ignores him, the other say's the issue was "twittered" and therefore resolved and his Congressman forwards this issue to military affairs but apparently doesn't get answers to Lakin's questions and concerns.
* After being transferred to the Pentagon, he raised the issue with his clinic’s commander - Result = Commander acknowledges there IS an issue BUT had no guidance as to what to do.
* LTC Lakin then submitted another Article 138 complaint, this one routed through General Casey - Result = General Casey wasn’t in his chain of command, so his Article 138 complaint wouldn’t be addressed.
* LTC Lakin then goes to Capitol Hill for face-to-face meetings with one Congressman and high-level staffers. They acknowledge there IS an issue BUT but the media ridiculed it. Result = they let it go.
"Concern About Obama's Eligibility Throughout the Chain-of-Command"
Your right Starwise...this immensely important issue deserves it's own thread.
Thank you !
Lakin is standing up for The Constitution. The courts and legislative support the elites. Money talks. We are serf and the military are cannon fodder/targets to amuse the Saudi king and Islam.
This is so outrageous- it has always been so- no one in D.C. seems to have any idea how to handle this problem.
I hate to even think it but it seems there’s a good case to be made for racial-backlash-blackmail keeping the citizens in the dark about the nature of the president’s background.
Makes ya wonder a lot, doesn’t it.
Excellent post as usual rx.
Sad to say though, this reaction by our military to me is prima facie evidence that we the people can no longer rely on our military to defend us against treason from within. They have shown they won’t do it and will in fact crucify one of their own officers to avoid defending this nation against a domestic enemy. They don’t care about this nation anymore, they only care about personal careers and advancement through the ranks. I used to think it would be ridiculous to even suggest that if commanded to shoot or herd their neighbors and relatives into the nearest gulag they would fight. Now I’m convinced they will do whatever they are ordered to do.
Prima facie evidence #2 as to my belief being the correct one is the response over and over on FR from fellow freepers willing to jump on the same military bandwagon seeking to crucify another officer rather than get to the truth of the matter of Obama’s eligibility. If a conservative website can’t come to this officer’s defense why would we think anyone else would?
I hate to admit it, but I’ve given up. We’re well on the road to tyranny and I no longer see any way out of it. We’re toast when our own military won’t defend us any longer.
If that is really the case then I can foresee the DADT repeal bringing more “birthers” out from the shadows.
It is surely going to pass now that Scott Brown-eye has sold out. If there is to be an immediate backlash, it could involve this upcoming change that many officers and enlisted men/women do not support.
*Glass half full analysis*
Yeah- it makes me wonder. But...these days I wonder about things I’ve taken for granted my entire life.
This entire situation is a MESS.
Well then, if the media says so.........seriously? WTF?
It is pretty obvious that if you stand up for freedom, you are standing alone in this country.
The most egregious response is “the media ridiculed it”.
Almost like telling Virginia ‘there is a Santa Clause’.
I have to agree with you CG - we are doomed if the military is ever asked by this tyrant to turn its guns on us.
The only defense to the military’s paralysis is that they are well aware of the crisis and are keeping silent until 2012. They better have a back-up plan if Wikileaks lets the cat outta the bag.
Standing up for The Constitution is not going to become a popular thing to do if our courts and legislaters have anything to say about it. It will absolutely ruin the introduction of Sharia Law into our Court rooms and communities.
"I have not yet begun to fight!"
I understand what you’re saying and in my heart I agree with you, but:
My brain is asking how in the world do we fight against OUR OWN military, while our own govt is becoming increasingly corrupt?
Where are the leaders who would lead the charge to take our country back? Its crickets. Just one bugle call to meet on the green or something to that effect and I will be there, come hell or high water. But the call isn’t going out!
He was advised to go to Afghanistan and then raise the issue while he was on deployment. He considered this a “worse” option. He said it would be “extremely wrong to raise this in a combat zone.”
Ah, wie so.
David wants Bathsheba and sends word to put her husband at the front of a big fight, where he is killed.
Wrong for Lakin to raise the issue in harm’s way 1/2 a world away?
What, disn’t he know that he should have talked to Holbrooke? Or Russert?
How can this be good for morale? Geeze! Obama could resolve this with a nod of his head. I strongly suspect that he won't because he CAN'T!
“I can foresee the DADT repeal...”
...having a by-product of sending the LBGT crowd into the fray first. Right up the middle, at dawn.
By themselves.
Like to know which one of the brain trusts said that. Udall and Bennet are both in the tank for 0bozo either way.
Don’t give up. It is us, the people the military defend, who inspire the military to their sacrifices in the first place.
I think perhaps they cannot SEE or HEAR the support that is in reality there for them... and without that... they see no reason to force the issue.
Don’t give up.
This fight will not be over until that cretin is shown to be an usurper. I don’t care if that takes another 5 years. I want HISTORY to record that we KNEW and we fought him. That we never gave up on exposing the cretin for what he is, an usurper. If nothing else, I want to see he never makes a dime on the lecture circuit, and Michelle ends up wearing used goodwill clothes instead of her designer boob-belts. I want them disgraced for the eyes of ALL history, for everyone to see their shame.
That if nothing else is my mission. Don’t give up!
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